York1 John-NYBW I've never been able to find out when the two concourses were disconnected. I have a very fuzzy memory that they were still connected back in the 1950s but I am not positive about that. I also seem to remember it being there in the 1950s, although I'm not sure. I am pretty sure I remember riding my first escalator there. Thanks for the info!
John-NYBW I've never been able to find out when the two concourses were disconnected. I have a very fuzzy memory that they were still connected back in the 1950s but I am not positive about that.
I also seem to remember it being there in the 1950s, although I'm not sure.
I am pretty sure I remember riding my first escalator there.
Thanks for the info!
You would think that with all the information that is now available on the internet I could find the answer to that question but I've been looking in vain for years.
Here's a better picture of the connecting concourse than what I posted earlier.
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Notice the ground on the rear of the station is at track level. In later years, the ground was regraded bringing the parking level up to the concourse level which is where the large waiting room was. The parking level was always there as far as my memory goes back.
The picture was probably taken shortly after the concourses were connected in 1937. Did they have helicopters back? The other choices were a plane or a balloon. I'm pretty sure they didn't use a drone camera.
John-NYBWI've never been able to find out when the two concourses were disconnected. I have a very fuzzy memory that they were still connected back in the 1950s but I am not positive about that.
York1 John
I love that model. I have two downtown deco kits downstairs I really need to tackle.
HO-Velo Too many hours of yard work this weekend, I need a bumper sticker for my lawnmower that says; 'I'd Rather be Model Railroading.' After a good dinner its nice to relax and see what's cooking on the WPF. Next best thing to Model Railroading is seeing others Model Railroading. Thanks David, had I known that structure lighting would need dimming for photography I'd have made my lighting buss more accessible. Don, yes, Downtown Deco. Another DTD kit. Thanks to all and enjoy the remainder of your Sunday. Regards, Peter
Too many hours of yard work this weekend, I need a bumper sticker for my lawnmower that says; 'I'd Rather be Model Railroading.' After a good dinner its nice to relax and see what's cooking on the WPF. Next best thing to Model Railroading is seeing others Model Railroading.
Thanks David, had I known that structure lighting would need dimming for photography I'd have made my lighting buss more accessible.
Don, yes, Downtown Deco.
Another DTD kit.
Thanks to all and enjoy the remainder of your Sunday. Regards, Peter
Don - Specializing in layout DC->DCC conversions
Modeling C&O transition era and steel industries There's Nothing Like Big Steam!
Thanks to everyone for a great WPF! I appreciate all the positive feedback and encouragement. Last night I spent quite a bit of time looking for the Blair Line wooden crossings I have around here somewhere. I know they can be scratched but the curved ones are excellent and a quick-fit. I have my order ready for MB Klein.
Let's hope Kalmbach gets Kevin back on the rails and admits his absence was simply an April Fools joke gone awry???
See you all in April!
Regards, Ed
York1 John-NYBW Thank you for the compliment but just to set the record straight, KETV is channel 7, not channel 8. I have no idea why I said channel 8. I think I must have been thinking of the ABC channel we get, which is channel 8 from Lincoln. I love going to Railroad Days in Omaha each year. The Durham (Union Station) is an amazing place. Thanks for posting the information!
John-NYBW Thank you for the compliment but just to set the record straight, KETV is channel 7, not channel 8.
I have no idea why I said channel 8. I think I must have been thinking of the ABC channel we get, which is channel 8 from Lincoln.
I love going to Railroad Days in Omaha each year. The Durham (Union Station) is an amazing place.
Thanks for posting the information!
Historic Timeline - The Durham Museum : The Durham Museum
I found this website for the Durham Museum and the 1937 picture shows the connecting concourse between Union and Burlington Stations.
I've never been able to find out when the two concourses were disconnected. I have a very fuzzy memory that they were still connected back in the 1950s but I am not positive about that. The photo I posted earlier shows the Burlington concourse after being disconnected. Not only do I not know when this happened, I don't know why.
I've spent the last several days painting track. Here's the Powder River area (the lower deck):
Now I can install the backdrop and get started on some real scenery.
Mark P.
Website: http://www.thecbandqinwyoming.comVideos: https://www.youtube.com/user/mabrunton
HO-VeloMike, Thanks for rolling out the WPF with some Crater Lake Junction action.
Peter, Thanks to you and everyone else for the kind comments. I'm too exhausted right now from the train show to make specfic comments on all the fine modeling on display here in WPF this time around, but it was a great success based on everyone's accounts for a return from our mandatory hiatus over the last couple of years.
Our make and take table was mobbed all weekend with modelers of all ages giving the hobby a try. The Monticello Railway Museum's Kids RR had a line the entire weekend. The vendors were all happy with the crowd.
And we had a great group of layouts, from old fravorites like the Midwest Central N-scale modules to the Midwest Live Steamers. There was a great group of new layouts, too.
Here's Brian Huang's O scale switching layout which he is operating woth his ISE ProtoThrottle. Brian was among the many layout operators who was willing to share operating privileges on his layout by request.
The Crawford County modular group is also fresh out of the gate IIRC with a compact yet high capacity line dominated by a huge yard.
Jon Crawford's English-themed switching layout in a guitar case.
It was especially heartwarming to see the Illini RR Club at the show. They may just be the oldest RR club in existence as they celebrated their 100th annivesary a couple of years back.They've seen some rough track in recent years after losing their longtime permanent home layout space to a dorm remodel. Then the pandemic made such ordinary student activities difficult to impossible for a time. They've bounced back while still searching for a future layout location on campus by getting deeply into Freemo. Here's what they set-up at this weekend's show, with the Midwest Live Steamer's in the background..
One highlight of the weekend was DarthSantaFe looking me up in the crowd and introducing himself. What a great surprise and we had a nice little chat! He was one of many I invited to drop by to see the home layout sometime, an invitation always open to fellow forum members here.
I was suprised at the number of HOn3 modelers and aspiring modelers of HOn3 who stopped by to observe my layout along with Bob Miller's module. Many also took time to look over the memorial case I'd put together and commented on the various aspects of his life that contributed to his skillful modeling. One surprising thing for me was a gentleman who said he'd been a member of a modular group with Bob that the local park district apparently sponsored at one time. I was unaware of this, so may look into it more to find its history.
Mike Lehman
Urbana, IL
Did I see some orange and black?
gmpullman
That's one handsome Shark Nose EP-5 Jet.
Been looking for a pair of Kato early Milwaukee Road SD40-2's for a quite a while as they've been out of production for a long time.
Got them in the mail yesterday I paid too much for them but they're new in the box and darn near impossible to find.
They ought to go along with the Green Machines well being that Milwaukee Road is the one that pushed tor the merger hard.
Very happy and I wonder how many cars these 4 Bad Boys will pull?
Keep the pictures coming and thanks for posting
TF
Progress logs are fun to watch. Keep posting. Plus you get some good feedback from the community as to tricks you can use to solve problems
Sparky Rail I finally have something to contribute; my first solo layout attempt since working on one with a couple of freinds in my early teens. The trains aren't quite running yet, but I'm pretty excited for this project.
I finally have something to contribute; my first solo layout attempt since working on one with a couple of freinds in my early teens. The trains aren't quite running yet, but I'm pretty excited for this project.
Sparky RailAlso, first time posting a picture, we'll see how this goes:
I hope you can continue to post photos of your progress. We all love seeing layouts under construction.
I finally have something to contribute; my first solo layout attempt since working on one with a couple of freinds in my early teens. The trains aren't quite running yet, but I'm pretty excited for this project. It will be a 4x8 chainsaw layout, hopefully with a life span of only about 9 months. Also, first time posting a picture, we'll see how this goes:
Downtown Deco Models?
HO-Velo Mike, Thanks for rolling out the WPF with some Crater Lake Junction action. Yet another rewarding WPF display of creative energy and modeling skills, not to mention the historic interest and fine examples of "memories modeled." Thanks to all the contributors and viewers. Have a good weekend. Regards, Peter
Mike, Thanks for rolling out the WPF with some Crater Lake Junction action.
Yet another rewarding WPF display of creative energy and modeling skills, not to mention the historic interest and fine examples of "memories modeled."
Thanks to all the contributors and viewers. Have a good weekend. Regards, Peter
Peter. Loving the lighting.
Some lighting I see is far too bright to almost 'blinding'.
IMO yours is just right. Well done.
David
To the world you are someone. To someone you are the world
I cannot afford the luxury of a negative thought
Love that. Incredible detail and weathering.
Jumijo Here is my just finished M. T. Arms hotel kit.
Here is my just finished M. T. Arms hotel kit.
Modeling the Baltimore waterfront in HO scale
snjroyEd: That's a nice little Rapido you have there. Will you order the new Turbo 2.0?? If memory serves, you already have a few. But is it not tempting to get the new one?
Well, there's a pretty good chance I'll step up to Turbo 2.0. Why? Who knows. I'll bet I don't have but an hour of actual operation between the two I have but... who said us modelers deal in logic?
Turbo_PC52-Amtrak50 by Edmund, on Flickr
I saw the Turbo in Cleveland during its "World tour" and rode it from Penn Station to New Haven back in '73 so it has some personal memories.
Penn-Central_Turbo by Edmund, on Flickr
Turbo_UA_52 by Edmund, on Flickr
I rode the CN Turbo from Toronto to Montreal back in '73 and had a great time.
Turbo_CN-Spadina-79 by Edmund, on Flickr
I like to model my "memories" —
I remember seeing EP-5s still in operation when I visited the Penn Station and Grand Central area in the early seventies. Great times!
EP-5 Ready to Depart by Steve Baldwin, on Flickr
4 More of Roger ***'s New Haven Photos by Marty Bernard, on Flickr
Cheers, Ed
I'm just here to have fun!
I have lots of fond memories of the twin Omaha stations, mostly of the Burlington. I don't know why but my mother always sneered at the Union Station as we drove by it on the way to the Burlington. Prior to visiting Durham a few years back, I can only remember one time going to Union Station to meet our grandparents.
My family moved from Omaha in 1966 but I've been back several times since, the last time being two years ago when I passed through to see the initial run of Big Boy 4014 out of Cheyenne. I am amazed at how much it has grown. The west side ended at about 90th and even that was sparsely developed. Boys Town used to be out in the country but now development has reached out that far.
John-NYBWThank you for the compliment but just to set the record straight, KETV is channel 7, not channel 8.
I envy some of you guys kit bashing skills.
Slow but steady progress on merchants row 1. I painted up the back and only have minor details left on the front. I'm adding an interior.
So how does one simulate a gravel roof? With fine ballast and scenic cement of coarse!
I may hack a roomette kit for the interior.
roomettes interior video
York1 John, that's a good scene of Omaha's Burlington Station. I've seen pictures of the restoration that Channel 8 made when they moved in, but I've never been inside of the building. Sometime when Omaha has Railroad Days, maybe Channel 8 would open the building.
John, that's a good scene of Omaha's Burlington Station. I've seen pictures of the restoration that Channel 8 made when they moved in, but I've never been inside of the building. Sometime when Omaha has Railroad Days, maybe Channel 8 would open the building.
Thank you for the compliment but just to set the record straight, KETV is channel 7, not channel 8. I can remember back in the 1950s when Omaha only had two stations KMTV (CBS) and WOW (NBC). I think it was in the late 1950s that KETV gave us an ABC affiliate. At about the same time KMTV and WOW traded affilliations. I've read that some time ago, that traded back to their original affiliations. KMTV is where Tom Brokaw got his start and WOW is where Johnny Carson had his first job in television.
While I elected to build the station similar to the way Burlington Station is, it is not meant to represent that station. I am modeling a fictional east coast railroad but when Walthers came out with the kit about 15 years ago, I knew I wanted to make it similar to the prototype without being an exact replica. The station went through so many rennovations over the years, it would be hard to choose which iteration to model. At one time, it's concourse connected to Union Station to the north which now houses the Durham Western Heritage Museum.
Mike, thanks for starting the WPF. Those are nice scenes of Crater Lake. Enjoy your time at the train show.
Ed, I think you had a great idea with changing around your buildings. The entire area of the layout is impressive.
Rich, that's a nice-looking station. It looks like quite a kit to put together, with a great result.
David, nice photos of Crown Point Yard. That timetable sounds interesting. It's not something I've yet considered on my layout.
Simon, I like the grain bins.
Rick, I like the D&H boxcar.
TF, I've never seen (or heard of) a clay machine like that. It reminds me of my kids' PlayDoh Fun Factory. It did a great job making your concrete ramp for the grain elevator.
I don't have any photos of my layout this week, as I am just laying track. Here is a picture of my partially finished ethanol plant on the old layout. I was planning on weathering things, putting in more details, some trucks, and some people. I never got around to it. I tried to save some of the plant to use on my new layout. I'm not sure I will use it, or if it will just sit in a box on the shelf.
Thanks for the photos, everyone!
That clay machine looks like somebody just rebranded a pasta machine. I have one of those and almost never use it. Maybe I've found a new use for it.
Thanks for starting everyone out Mike.
Great looking projects here this weekend as always gentleman
I seen Ed and others on the Forum have said there's no such thing as too many pictures.
Good!
I found out today why they call it (Photobucket) although I was cleaning my Imgur account of all the junk photos and it took a long long time.
I stumbled across some clay roller pictures with that Sculpey oven bake clay stuff.
I almost forgot about that thing and honestly don't know where it is.
It has different settings so you can roll out clay squished to different thicknesses.
I remember smashing some against the edge of a counter with a book one time.
And then cutting it to shape with this makeshift thing.
And then you just throw that stuff in the oven and bake it on wax paper.
The prairie grain elevator needed a ramp.
Put some of that brick styrene on the sides.
Added a railing.
And mixed some masonry colored paint and some grime.
That clay bake stuff works good for making portals, piers, retaining walls, brick buildings and even abutments.
This was a quick experiment with the pizza cutter and a jeweler's screwdriver.
Some earth tone paint colors
And then some tinted drywall plaster in the joints.
The great thing is when it's warm off the cookie sheet it's really flexible to bend on your layout.
Again Thanks for sharing and keep the pictures coming as they are appreciated here
Mike, thanks for starting us out, great looking pictures of your layout.
Ed, your city scene is coming out great, I especially like the feedlot. I tought long and hard on the EP5, but I have got a lot of stuff coming in the near future like PA's, RS11's more RS3's etc.
Rich, beautiful work on that station kit, must be the same on on our club, will have to see if I have a picture of it.
Simon, nice picture, I like the VIA paint schemes a whole lot better than Amtrak.
John, another great use of that station.
I got a little work done this week.
First up is an Athearn PS 5344 kit, I know they are a foot too wide, but Exactrail seems to not want to do any more PS 5344 kits any more. Car was painted with Scalecoat II Reefer Orange, Silver and Black Paints then lettered with Highball Graphics decals. Cars were in general service on the D&H.
Next, a Walther's 89' Intermodal Flat Car kit, car was painted with Scalecoat II Hunter Green and lettered with a couple of sets of Herald King Decals. The DT&I picked up several hundred flat cars for their Rail Blazer service from Detroit to Cincinnati, All these cars came from previous owners so all the car data was left in place and the old railroad's identification was painted out and DTIXXXXX number was painted on. These cars came from the Texas Mexican railroad of which the DT&I got 12 cars.
A pair of Athearn DT&I GP40-2's with an auto parts train heading for Delta, OH to interchange with the N&W for the Ford FAST to the west coast.
Thanks for looking,
Hope Kevin gets back soon!
Rick Jesionowski
Rule 1: This is my railroad.
Rule 2: I make the rules.
Rule 3: Illuminating discussion of prototype history, equipment and operating practices is always welcome, but in the event of visitor-perceived anacronisms, detail descrepancies or operating errors, consult RULE 1!
Here's my version of the Walthers Union Station kit.
The kit is a model of Omaha's Burlington Station and I ktbashed the overhead concourse which emerged from under the pillars using modular wall sections, stairways from a CMR kit, and Walthers platforms. Here is what the prototype looked like, I'm guessing from the 1950s.
Here is what the station originally looked like before a major rennovation in 1930. The roof was flattened and most of the pillars removed.
Here is the station as it stands today, repurposed as KETV's news studios.
Mike: I'm affraid I will miss your train show (1300 KM is a long drive ). I would have liked to see your portable Hon3 layout in person. I'm very jealous about your shay... Maybe I'll start that MDC kit that I have sitting on my shelf.
Ed: That's a nice little Rapido you have there. Will you order the new Turbo 2.0?? If memory serves, you already have a few. But is it not tempting to get the new one?
Rich: Nice job on the station. I like the Walthers kits, even though putty is pretty much unavoidable.
Here is a picture taken at the club:
DSC_0168 on Flickr
Simon