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Well, There You Have It. Ribbet.

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Well, There You Have It. Ribbet.
Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 11:09 AM

From the Minnesota Streetcar Museum.

May be an image of railroad

If you look on the bottom of a horse’s hoof you’ll find a wedge-shaped pad. It acts as a shock absorber and aids in traction and circulation. It’s called the frog. Early rail workers were of course familiar with horses and mules – they supplied motive power. Because the part where rails cross mimics the triangular form of the horse’s frog, rail workers just appropriated the familiar term to describe it.

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 11:20 AM

Makes perfect sense, Brent.  But....why didn't they call the guards 'shoes'?

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 12:39 PM

LaughLaughLaugh

And that makes perfect sense Selector.  I can see your logic.

They put shoes on hooves so they wouldn't wear out.  The guards on a turnout keeps the wheels aligned from too much slop so they don't wear out the Frog or jump it.

I'm thinking Selector made a very good indirect point.  I'm very curious to know the answer to his question as well.  So why didn't they call the guards shoes Brent? Indifferent

 

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 1:13 PM

Track fiddler
So why didn't they call the guards shoes Brent? 

Or hooves or legs?

You live closest to the Minnesota Streetcar Museum TF, so why don't you run over there and ask them? TAG! You're it.Laugh

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 1:21 PM

They didn't call them shoes because those were already on the brakes. Dunce

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 1:36 PM

Laugh I knew better than to stir this pot Brent.  Now the trolley is in my yard is it?

It's - 15F wind chill out there again and I think I just about froze my hooves on the way to pick Judy up and I ain't going out there again!

The Museum is a Loco call here, so I'll try thatWhistling

 

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:00 PM

MusicRice-A-RoniMusic

MusicThe flavor can't be beatMusic

https://youtu.be/57NnGoIk8Ak

Music Minnesota Street CarMusic

MusicThe Como Harriet TreatMusic 

 

Oh oh!  Hook Line & Sinker.  Somehow I do believe I ended up in Brents boatLaugh

 

 

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:15 PM

Of course, there are many theories on why that part of a horse's hoof was called a "frog"...including that it was a nickname given to it by railroad men who thought it looked like a track frog. Idea

http://www.fantasiacarriage.com/why-is-the-bottom-of-the-horses-foot-called-a-frog/

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Posted by NVSRR on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 5:47 PM

I have heard the two converging routes as legs on occassion which fits the horse theme.   

 Some prototype turnouts do have the cut rail hinge point like atlas does on the closure rails.   In Europe they call that spot the heel.   They also call thepoint where the closure railos get the closest in the frog then bend out to be the wing rails, that is the toe

I have heard the tie plates that are elongated and flat at the points are reffered to as shoes. 

Arent the square eye shields called guards? If it is, then it could be said the guards control the direction of sight  or in the case of guard rails, controls the direction of travel.   Unless they really are called blinders then that idea is far sighted. 

 

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 7:01 PM

NVSRR
Arent the square eye shields called guards?

We only ever called them 'blinkers' when I was growing up.  

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, January 27, 2022 5:14 PM

Track fiddler

MusicRice-A-RoniMusic

MusicThe flavor can't be beatMusic

https://youtu.be/57NnGoIk8Ak

Music Minnesota Street CarMusic

MusicThe Como Harriet TreatMusic 

 

Oh oh!  Hook Line & Sinker.  Somehow I do believe I ended up in Brents boatLaugh

 

 

TF

 

 

LaughLaughLaugh

That was a pleasant ride on the streetcar TF. The weather was perfect.

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Posted by wrench567 on Thursday, January 27, 2022 6:33 PM

  I really didn't want to step in this horse stuff, but I was always under the impression that it got it's name from looking like an outstretched frog jumping. Like Colonel Potter would say "Horse Hockey!".

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 28, 2022 11:45 PM

wrench567
I was always under the impression that it got it's name from looking like an outstretched frog jumping.

That is what I have heard pretty often.

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, January 29, 2022 12:10 AM

Well, since both the reptilian example and the equine example arrived long before the railroad example, the question should be, what got the name first, the hoof or the reptile? Was the reptile named after the hoof or was the hoof named after the reptile? Therein lies the answer.

Do your research kids, there will be a quiz tomorrow.Laugh

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Posted by Track fiddler on Saturday, January 29, 2022 12:50 AM

LaughLaughLaugh

MusicRice-A-RoniMusic

https://youtu.be/39K74OEfDts

This ain't no Street Car.  Looks like pre Colombian artLaugh

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, January 29, 2022 1:33 AM

BATMAN
Was the reptile named after the hoof or was the hoof named after the reptile?

Frogs are amphibians.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Saturday, January 29, 2022 8:10 AM

Good morning

BATMAN

Was the reptile named after the hoof or was the hoof named after the reptile? Therein lies the answer.

Do your research kids, there will be a quiz tomorrow.Laugh

Laugh
Well,  Somewhere there are hoof TRACKS in the mud with the FROG imprint in them but the horse or the mule was there first to make them.  
 
But meanwhile the FROG was down swimming in the pond like he did for thousands of years with the alligator and other reptiles.  They all survived all the ice ages so therefore the FROG was firstWhistling
 
Laugh
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted by Track fiddler on Saturday, January 29, 2022 8:24 AM

POST HOG!

You can't quite see the FROG perpendicular to the shed in this video.  But there none-the-less.

https://youtu.be/QUBWllCXhYA

 

 

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, January 29, 2022 8:57 AM

SeeYou190

 

 
BATMAN
Was the reptile named after the hoof or was the hoof named after the reptile?

 

Frogs are amphibians.

-Kevin

 

I stand corrected, even though I am sitting.Laugh

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