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Seeking HO Crown/Andrews USRA Tender Trucks w triple elliptic leaf springs

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Seeking HO Crown/Andrews USRA Tender Trucks w triple elliptic leaf springs
Posted by cnjman721 on Tuesday, September 7, 2021 6:00 PM

I am trying to locate a pair of HO USRA tender trucks with triple leaf springs but cannot seem to find any via the usual sources like Walthers, Precision Scale, Kadee, etc.

All I can find are those visually similar listed as caboose trucks but with only two leaf springs. I did however find suitable ones at American Scale Models -- and real beauties at that complete with scale chains attached to sideframes --  but they are $40 a pair...a little too rich for my blood.

I'm really surprised at the apparent scarcity because obviously there were a heck of a lot of USRA switchers in service all over the country early in the 20th century.

What am I missing?

Thanks,

Ed

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, September 8, 2021 1:03 PM

Well, talk about being unobservant...I don't recall ever seeing trucks with triple leaf springs, but after reading your post, took a look in my supply of trucks for yet-to-be-built projects and found two pairs.
One pair is brass, the other is in engineering plastic, likely Delrin.

The latter ones looked like they might be from a tender, but had fully insulated wheelsets.

That prompted me to take a look at what was on my layout, and I found four Athearn Genesis Mikados with similar trucks, with the three spring-set-up....however, I had installed all-wheel pick-up on those tenders when they first went into service (they are the same trucks as the those plastic ones mentioned earlier).
I then checked my Bachmann Consolidations, 10-Wheelers and a Mountain, and found similar three-spring trucks on all of them.  They too have been modified for all-wheel pick-up.

I'd guess that you'd be able to find either types directly from Athearn/Genesis and/or Bachmann.

(I'll take a couple of photos, and post them here shortly.)

Here's a look at those on an Athearn Genesis Mikado...

...and under the tender of a Bachmann Consolidation...

...and a Bachmann 10-Wheeler...

...and the Bachmann USRA Light Mountain (a Mohawk on my layout)...

I've tried for ages to get more of those ones with the drop-equalisers, but to no avail.

 

Wayne

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, September 10, 2021 10:01 PM

If the not-too-clear first three photos are causing hesitation, I'll try to re-shoot them using a better camera...they're all very similar to those in the fourth photo.

Wayne

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, September 11, 2021 12:18 AM

Here are some clearer photos of the same trucks...(click on the photos for an enlarged view)

...the Bachmann tender trucks for both the Consolidations and 10-Wheelers (and perhaps other Bachmann HO tenders) seem to all have the three-spring set-up in the Andrews trucks...

 

 

 

...and also in the less commonly-seen Commonwealth-type trucks...

...while the only Athearn steamers I have are the USRA Mikados, I'd guess that the same trucks are used, at least, on their USRA Pacifics, too...

...and I was again surprised to see the same type of Andrews trucks under my much-modified Proto-2000 Heritage USRA 0-8-0...

In my opinion, your best chance of getting some would be from Bachmann or Athearn/Genesis, but you could also try contacting Walthers on the chance they have some of those Proto trucks.

Since all of the Andrews tender trucks have the 3-spring arrangement, I wouldn't be too surprised if they were all from the same source.

Wayne

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