Heartland Division CB&QYesterday, I showed the model railroad to vistors. Our neighbors came with their daughter and her husband along with two grandkids. The layout had been working perfectly for several days, but the gremlins came out and stirred things up.
Garry, when I first started a layout, I read how things didn't work correctly when visitors came. Now that I have a working layout, I see that it actually's true. Things run perfectly until you want to show them off.
TF, do I remember that you wrote that you are headed out for some vacation time again? Have a good relaxing time.
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Everyone can join me for a big breakfast this morning. Bacon, eggs, bacon, hashbrowns, sausage, bacon, and coffee.
York1 John
Good afternoon Diners. Thanks for the breakfast, John. It will be Brunch here.
John. It is thanks to the 'army' of volunteers that have saved a large number of locomotives etc.
Steam on the Boness & Kinneil Heritage Railway.
A nice surprise outside the Locomotive shed at the Bo'ness and Kinneil Railway and still in steam after returning from one of its rail tours the LNER Peppercorn 4-6-2 Class A1 60163 Tornado steam locomotive built by the A1 Steam Locomotive Trust. Also in steam that day J94 Austerity Locomotive 0-6-0ST NCB No.19 in a green livery Built by Hunslet Engine Co Leeds in 1954 (Works No.3818). Acquired from NCB Comrie Colliery Fife The locomotive was supplied new to the NCB Area 7 (East Fife) at the Michael Colliery. It was overhauled at the Central Workshops, Dysart, in 1965, then returned to the Michael. After the disaster there, it was transferred to Wellesley Coal Preparation Plant where it remained until 1971, when it made its final move in NCB service to Comrie Colliery. At the end of the War, seventy five of the 0-6-0ST austerity locomotives passed to the British main line railways, and others were absorbed into industrial service. Further examples, like Nos.5 and 19 at Bo'ness, were built later, in the 1950s. There are four examples in all at Bo'ness, all of which were used by the National Coal Board in Scotland. These are No.17 (built by Hunslet in 1943), No.7 (built by W.G.Bagnall in 1945), No.19 (built by Hunslet in 1954) and No.5 (built by Hunslet in 1955). last but not least also in steam today NCB No.6 in a green livery built by Andrew Barclay of Kilmarnock as No. 2219 in 1946 and belongs to the Prestongrange Industrial Museum the loco was repaired and works at the Bo'ness railway NCB No. 6 - In traffic, as yard shunter.
Two A4s cross the Atlantic.
David
To the world you are someone. To someone you are the world
I cannot afford the luxury of a negative thought
gmpullmanIf I had one wish granted me before passing it would have been to sit in on one of the late night chats between these two leaders, FDR tending the drinks, Mr. Churchill enjoying a cigar while regailing stories of days gone by.
That would be amazing. I would join you, and have the time of my life.
York1 That reminds me of another Florida location -- I've always wanted to take a boat out to the Dry Tortugas National Park to see Ft. Jefferson.
There are three National Parks in Florida. I have not visited two of them, Biscayne and Dry Tortugas.
I am not a diver, so I might never make it to either one.
My understanding is that both parks are amazing under the surface.
I have snorkled in John Pennekamp state park in Key Largo many times. It has become less impressive through the years as the reef has been dying. I remember in the 1980s it was as colorful as a circus parade.
The last time I was there it was mostly gray and sickly. Visibility and water clarity have been getting worse for a long time.
PM RailfanThen I noticed a spray booth and workbench.
That workbench dates back to the 1950s. I bought it at an estate auction for about $100.00 over twenty years ago.
I replaced the legs with modern Edsal legs so I could have outlets in the front.
The maple butcher-block work top has the most wonderful aged and distressed surface. It is lovely, and none of my kids want it.
PM RailfanKevin) I wasn't liking your garage pic too much. Reason - theres no BUICK GN wrapped in bubble wrap parked in there next to the retired toolbox.
If there was to be a car in the garage, it would be either a 1966 Mercury S55 like I had in High School, or a low-rider 1975 Mercury Grand Marquis Coupe with a 460.
This one came up for sale not too long ago, and was very tempting.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
Howdy, Everybody.
Regarding the 1900-1950 time frame. That is a lot of years, and very much railroad activity happened in that period.
Thanks to those who posted very intersting photos for 1900-1950. Kevin, John, York 1, MLC, Ed, Brent, David, and anybody I missed. Much appraciated.
John York 1. ... Good you could see 4014. I saw it in Utah in May of 2019. We are thinking of seeing it near the end of August when it will be in southeast MO and southern IL. ... Regarding my gremlins, more stuff happened than I wanted to explain here. Embarrassing.
Kevin .... The ferry to Key West appears to be a good service. ... Your garage looks very full. My garage tool box is muc hsmaller and has all I need.
As for 1900 to 1950.
Here is my contribution. CB&Q operated 2-6-6-2's on its Deadwood Branch which is in the corner of South Dakota in the Black Hills. ... Here is a photo and information I found in the Internet Archive .
Quoting:
Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad 2-6-6-2 Class T-2 4100 at Denver, Colorado on October 23, 1948, photographer unknown, print by Gordon C. Bassett, Chuck Zeiler collection. Number 4100 was built by Baldwin in February 1910 (c/n 34230) and retired in August 1950. The CB&Q had 10 Class T-2 locomotives delivered in 1910, numbers 4100-4109, built as coal burners. The coal bunkers were hinged and could be tilted to force the coal forward as the supply was depleted. The design was known as a Ryan and Johnson coal pusher, and the tilting segment can be seen along the diagonal line at the forward part of the tender. In 1919 the U.S. Forest Service required locomotives operating in the Black Hills of South Dakota to be oil burners, and number 4101 was the first so modified. Eventually all but three of the T-2's were converted to burn oil by 1927, although 4100 was briefly converted back to coal when assigned to the Beardstown Division. The sand dome behind the stack was added by the CB&Q during the late 1920's to most of the T-2's.
Everybody : ..... Have a good evening.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
This shot is said to be 1900. The fortress in the background is the MD Penitentiary
Jason Shron is a forum member and he likes busses, this is 1950
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
As I have gone through hundreds, maybe thousands of family pictures, I finally found one... and only one... of my wife and all three of our girls together.
SeeYou190As I have gone through hundreds, maybe thousands of family pictures, I finally found one... and only one... of my wife and all three of our girls.
That's an impressive picture. Where was it taken? It looks like if your family takes several steps back, they will go downhill pretty fast!
York1That's an impressive picture. Where was it taken? It looks like if your family takes several steps back, they will go downhill pretty fast!
That is the park at the top of Lookout Mountain in Chattanooga. The Tennessee River is snaking around in the background.
The picture was taken in November of 1995.
Yes, if they took a step back, it is a long way down. There is a fence in that location now.
If I remember correctly, that is the last trip we took in the Grand Marquis before we gave it to our oldest daughter.
SeeYou190That is the park at the top of Lookout Mountain in Chattanooga. The Tennessee River is snaking around in the background.
I should have guessed! My kids loved going to Rock City every time we traveled near there. It is an impressive place.
Re Ed's pic above: "FDR 1945 Hyde Park"...
The pic is actually at Breakneck Ridge showing a northbound train. You'll note that the numbers on the automatic signals indicate MP "54.3". Hyde Park is about 25 miles up the road.
Only two tracks there today. Ran many freights through those tunnels in my time...
The weekend before last was my birthday, and in true old-man fashion I decided to spend the day at Frankenmuth when the wife asked what I wanted to do. We were in no hurry to get anywhere that day, so I decided to take the scenic route there and stop by Owosso to see how the 1225 was doing, as I have not been there in years. I used to volunteer there at the Steam Railroad Institute a lot, about 20 years ago. They happened to be having caboose rides thru their yard that day, so I was finally able to check that off the bucket list. Granted, it was only about a quarter mile, pulled by a little 25 tonner, but they took their sweet time crawling along down to and on the turntable which they then spun around 360 degrees, and backed up to the starting point. My wife and I and the car attendant were the only ones in it, so we both got the cupola seats the entire time. Very cool.
The 1225 was looking good. It was neat to see the wife sitting in the engineers seat. I didn't think to take a picture.
They also had another caboose which was not running, but was open. There was a woman hosting it, and she was dressed in all vintage 40's-50's clothing as part of it. She had a long olive green dress that looked like very heavy fabric, a hat, gloves, the hole bit. She had to be quite warm with all that stuff. She was extemely nice and I enjoyed talking with her almost as much as I did the ride.
I just had the most bizarre argument with my wife.
I came across this picture while sorting things out, and I set it aside, because I have no idea who it is, so it should not be in the family photographs.
She came out and asked why it was set off, and I explained why. Then she said "that is you". I said, no that is not me. I have never worn a suit to play guitar, I have never owned a Gibson SG, and I have never looked that cool one day in my entire life.
She said "You think I don't know my own husband", and I said "You think I don't know my own me?"
She tried for ten minutes to convince me it was myself in the picture, and I could not convince her it was not me.
I must be getting cranky. I learned a long time ago I should have just said "Oh, you are right, thank you for that", and just went on with what I was doing.
A college friend gave me a picture of myself, a small photo but very high quality. I had it blown up and printed poster-sized, and hung it in my basement. It showed me in my uniform in full goalie attire. I thought it was awesome.
But years later, I was looking at the picture and I realized it wasn't me. The guy in the picture was wearing my number, but he was wearing a mask that obscured his face.
He was left handed, and I am right handed. The gloves were wrong. I took the poster down.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
OldEnginemanYou'll note that the numbers on the automatic signals indicate MP "54.3". Hyde Park is about 25 miles up the road.
Agreed.
The train's destination was Hyde Park and when I saved the file that was my keyword for the file.
Didn't mean to put anyone astray.
Sure would love to find any sort of documentation (track diagram or mention in a TT) of the siding that once was located near the Springwood estate. There are stories of FDR driving down the twisting dirt path that led to the Central's tracks. Using satillite views I've come close but can't confirm anything.
A special platform was constructed for offloading his coffin at this siding. There are photos of this. The majority of the passengers on both trains were detrained at the small Hyde Park depot.
That NYC photo is by Ed Nowak and he tells of how he selected the location and camped out to see and photograph the memorable train.
I didn't mean to put misleading information into the thread — sorry. Flickr automatically displays the file name.
Ed
Hello Railfans!
Top of the evening to yas! What a nice day. Raining since 5pm. About dog gone time too. Almost forgot what water was.
Kevin) Or should i say Jeff Beck??? But then, i dont think he played SG's. I think he was a Fender man.
As far as wives go, i found 'Yes Dear' always worked wonders. That and "No, you could never look fat in anything." And "Ya gotta stand twice to make one shadow" will really getcha some brownie points.
Back to the garage for a sec. - Go with the '75 Merc.. Add a cigar and a boscoe hat and your there! Dare i mention the fuzzy dice?
As for SG's, BEST dog gone guitar i ever played. A lil stiff along the fret board but man they are light! My strap and transmitter weighed more than the guitar. I can see why Angus duck walks everywhere. Big regret selling mine, i wish i had it still.
And for todays humor in photos.... heres me back when i had hair giving Angus a run for his money - honey! This is a Gibson '62 Re-Issue in none other than 'Cherry Red'. Ya cant really see it, but yes i had the matching 'schoolboy' outfit too. (hard to believe that was over 30 yarns ago)
Now, onto more important stuff like TRAINs!
In keeping with our theme here are a few shots (not mine) of my fav. road from the 'back of the rack'....
I cant give more descriptions of these photos unfortunately, but this is PM #89, a 4-4-0, and I believe this is in Bay City, Michigan, with a local.
Here we see another PM 4-4-0 doing what the PM did best before it became the 'bridge route' it was mostly known for. Once the forrests had been cut early part of century, most of the PM's freight wasnt home grown anymore. I think by 1915 the PM was hauling more coal (for not being a coal road like C&O, N&W, Vgn, etc) then any other natural resource. Ofcourse, auto parts were a mainstay for originating freight.
Heres a PM Mogul. Have no clue where or when this is but im pretty sure it fits our time frame at the moment. Odd place to put an air tank, wouldnt you say?
Have a great evening folks!
Clear Ahead!
Douglas
MisterBeasleyBut years later, I was looking at the picture and I realized it wasn't me. The guy in the picture was wearing my number, but he was wearing a mask that obscured his face.
That is funny.
There is a picture in the Cape Coral High School 1985 yearbook that has the caption that it is Eric S., but it is actually a picture of me.
I would imagine that happens pretty often.
PM RailfanBack to the garage for a sec. - Go with the '75 Merc.
The 2015 Chevrolet Impala has taken up residence in the newly tiled garage. I don't think it is giving up its claim on the space anytime soon.
I had a bad leg cramp in the back of my thigh, and I went outside to walk it off.
There was a noise that sounded like a generator running somewhere down the street. As I got closer, I realized it was one of my neighbor's outdoor air conditioner compressor units.
I suddenly became very confused... it sounded awful, it is obviously failing. Do I knock on the door? No, it is 3:00 AM, you should definitely not knock on a door at that time.
But, If my A/C unit was making a noise like that I would certainly want someone to notify me.
It all became too awkward, so I just went home.
It has been 45 minutes now, and I keep opening the door, and it is still making that racket. I feel bad for not letting them know, it is probably getting a lot worse and will be more expensive to repair.
I never know what to do at times like this... I am going to bed.
Good morning Diners. Tea & Toast please, Chloe.
Interesting photos and stories of when you were young.
There are not many pictures of me when I was young. The ones that were, have been (permanently) borrowed by other members of my family.
We have grandson number 2 and granddaughter number 1 staying a couple of days.
Here is the granddaughter with the 'new' railway in the garden.
Walton Films silent film documentary of a trip during the last days of the LMS before nationalisation, in 1948
Good morning, diners. Brunhilda, black coffee, please.
David, that is a happy-looking granddaughter there with the train.
Marriage of 44 years has not taught me to keep my mouth shut. I still get in trouble by saying things that may be correct, but better left as thoughts rather than words.
This is supposed to be the Burlington locomotive that pulled Teddy Roosevelt's train on his whistle stop tour of Nebraska:
This has no other caption than Lincoln, Nebraska, Burlington dispatchers, 1929:
Hope everyone has a good, healthy day.
York1 David, that is a happy-looking granddaughter there with the train.
Thanks John. Both her brother and herself keep us on our toes.
This morning they were in the train room. Once again I was not in charge.
Good morning, everyone.
Douglas ..... I like your old photos of PM locomotives.
John York 1..... I like the hiostoric Bulrington locomotive in your picture.
David ..... You have very good looking grand children.
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In the 1930's, the streamlined era began. CB&Q's Pioneer Zephyr is now preserved in the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry.
Here is Burlington's Denver Zephyr . My mother rode that train between her home near Chicago and Denver. She attended college in Colorado.
Here is a Burlington streamlined steam locomotve.
Later , the stainless steel wss removed. Then it looked like this:
Heartland Division CB&QHere is a Burlington streamlined steam locomotve.
That is a beautiful application of streamlining.
I barely slept at all last night. My leg is aching quite badly. That leg cramp I had stuck around for about 30 minutes, and still hurt as I tried to fall asleep.
1900-1950 railroading in Florida:
In 1935 we were struck by what is called the "Labor Day" hurricane. This might have been from before these storms were given names.
This picture shows some of the aftermath.
SeeYou190That leg cramp I had stuck around for about 30 minutes, and still hurt as I tried to fall asleep.
I had a bad leg cramp just over a year ago. I went for a ultrasound to check for blood clots, just to be sure. At one time you could get quinine OTC but today I guess it is prescription only. I do keep muscle cramp tablets on the night stand just in case. Sometimes, especially if my legs get cold, I'll get a cramp and those tablets can really herlp.
I hit the berth at about 6 AM today but got up around 10:30 in order to call the vet and bring Abby home, she has been at the vet for a week to be treated for a cold of some sort. She is home now and happier for it.
Here's a photo of a B&M Disker crew taken by my dad's bro-in-law:
B&M_Discer-Crew by Edmund, on Flickr
A few more shots around New England in the late '30s:
B&M_20_3635 by Edmund, on Flickr
No. 20 was the Alouette from Boston to Montreal.
Flying Yankee by Edmund, on Flickr
Miss Flying Yankee, 1936. Actually a member of a ski party from the Dartmouth Outing Club.
Flying-Yankee at Warren, NH by Edmund, on Flickr
Been about two weeks now. Anybody hear from Dr. Wayne? Somebody said he was on a forum called Big Blue. I guess that's for Conrail or IBM fans?
Nap time... ZZZzzz
Heartland Division CB&Q Here is Burlington's Denver Zephyr . My mother rode that train between her home near Chicago and Denver. She attended college in Colorado.
Garry, I really love that Denver Zephyr. These went through the little town I now live in. I wish I could have seen that.
I looked up the schedule and it came through here about 2:00 a.m. The closest to us it stopped was Lincoln, about 50 miles away.
Kevin. I feel for you. Some nights I have cramp in my legs. Fortunately not bad, but it keeps me awake an hour or so.
Garry. The grandchildren get their good looks from our side of the family. (So I tell everyone. )
Some great pictures. Keep them coming.
Good afternoon all. Things are starting to heat up again for our third extreme heatwave of the summer. We normally will get one warmer spell and some years will get a heatwave for a few days. Having three extreme heatwaves is new ground for us. The wife and I were discussing moving further North if this continues. Having the ocean and so many lakes makes fishing and hunting easier if enough crops start failing.
John, I coached boys baseball ( the younger kids) and I also coached teenage girls softball. The teenage girl's softball was a challenge, to say the least. With boyfriends in the stands and all the emotional baggage that comes from some of the ladies at that age.
Coaching Hockey was the best for me. I was lucky and always had a tough set of kids that never needed nursemaiding.
Didn't Steve McGarrett drive a car like this?
I get cramps sometimes when I get dehydrated from working out. Water fixes it up pretty quickly. I was mountain biking 11 miles up a mountain once and my legs seized in an instant. So fast it happened that I fell over on my bike with my feet still attached to the peddles as my legs would not move at all and I could not stick a leg out to get off. I just fell over like a tree. I had lots of water with me and a half-hour later I was back at it.
Ed, Wayne last posted on Big Blue Trains on August 5. Big Blue took me in when Sherriff Steve banned me for three days that turned into eight months or so, as he forgot to turn me back on. It took me a long time to get around to finding out what was going on as to why I was banned, I had no idea at the time. A good group over there on Big Blue as there is here. It is where I will be if the lights go out here.
1914 war is declared and within a few days, the first volunteers are boarding the train in Vancouver for basic training in Quebec.
1938
It's my sister's Birthday today so went up and took her a present and a card. She gives me a small fortune in PWRS gift certificates every year for Christmas and Birthdays and every time I do something for her. She is a good sister. She travels the world as a dog show judge and is in high demand. She has suffered serious withdrawal through this pandemic. My perfect wife was a good friend of hers. My sister was over the Moon when we hooked up.
This statue was commissioned by the Canadian Pacific Railway and there are copies at several stations across the country.
All the best to all.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
Picture below is of my friend and I going to the Moroso Motorsports Park for Super Chevy Sunday in 1987.
This is what is interesting about this picture... It was taken three weeks before I met my wife.
So, if you ever wondered what look would win a woman's heart in 1987, here it is.
Evening everybody. Another hot and humid one here, but isn't it doing that everywhere lately?
Got some more fascia installed on the layout this weekend. One more sheet of hardboard will finish it up. Seems like I've got a dozen projects going at once right now and not a ton of motivation for any of them. Oh well, they'll be there when I'm ready.
BATMANThe teenage girl's softball was a challenge, to say the least. With boyfriends in the stands and all the emotional baggage that comes from some of the ladies at that age.
SeeYou190So, if you ever wondered what look would win a woman's heart in 1987, here it is.
Mike
Water Level RouteThe Grand Prix?
I don't know whose car that was, or why we were standing by it. I also have no clue who took the picture.
I still had my 1966 Mercury, and my friend had a 1972 Ford Ranger 100.
Just some random vehicle.
Kevin,
To be fair, that is how I remember most people around that age in 1987 looking. Looked good at the time! Obviously, or it wouldn't have snagged you a wife!
Cheers!
Photos in the teen years?
I'm the one on the right, leaning on my scoop shovel looking all distracted:
Conneaut Lake Park 4070 by Edmund, on Flickr
As far as automobiles, I learned to drive in my mother's 1966 VW beetle. When the chance came along to buy a car one of the railroad club members was selling I was asked, Hey Ed, wanna' buy a car? $200?
I immediately said yes. He went on to say it was his daughter's car while she attended school in Georgia.
It wasn't until the next day that I asked him "What kind of car is it?"
Why it's a Cadillac Coupe deVille, 1963. I had that car for about six years. Loved it. Moved on up to a 1972 ElDorado after that
Regards, Ed