Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

"Heavy" Hooks?

4145 views
16 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    November 2002
  • From: Findlay, Ohio
  • 447 posts
"Heavy" Hooks?
Posted by danmerkel on Saturday, May 8, 2021 1:40 PM

I need a few hooks for a couple of crane models that I'm working on. The hooks that came with the kits aren't heavy enough to even pull the thread that I'm using for cables tight.

Quite some time ago, I ran across a "heavy" hook that may well have been cast in lead or some other heavy metal. But I have no idea where it came from. Does anyone know of any after market hooks that would be heavier than the plastic ones usually supplied with most of today's kits?

Thank you!

dlm

  • Member since
    February 2008
  • 8,908 posts
Posted by maxman on Saturday, May 8, 2021 2:08 PM

Are you looking for a single hook:

 

HO Scale Industrial Hoist Block with Hook (6)

or a double hook:

See the source image

  • Member since
    November 2007
  • From: California
  • 2,388 posts
Posted by HO-Velo on Saturday, May 8, 2021 2:09 PM

Durango Press DP-46 HO Hooks/Block & Tackle are cast metal

Regards, Peter

  • Member since
    August 2020
  • 581 posts
Posted by Southgate 2 on Saturday, May 8, 2021 2:18 PM

Hooks, or blocks? For a hook, suspended on a single line, you might try bending one from brass wire, and using a "headache ball" weight made from a small crimp-on sinker.

Blocks, a single, or series of pulley sheaves with a hook could be made with sheet lead shapes and punchings (using a leather punch for the sheaves). They wouldn't be operational but poseable enough. 

I'd like to see your cranes, a particular interest of mine.Dinner I'm working on one too. Dan

Edited in: Max man and Peter replied as I was typing. Those are nice.

  • Member since
    February 2010
  • From: Indiana
  • 225 posts
Posted by mikeGTW on Saturday, May 8, 2021 3:10 PM

  " alt="" />I have some of these they came from redball  for their crane kit  they are bout 3/4 inch top to bottom

 

  • Member since
    February 2010
  • From: Indiana
  • 225 posts
Posted by mikeGTW on Saturday, May 8, 2021 3:14 PM
not sure why the alt thing maybe using the wrong link anyway if you want a few let me know no charge
  • Member since
    August 2003
  • From: Collinwood, Ohio, USA
  • 16,367 posts
Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, May 8, 2021 3:35 PM
  • Member since
    January 2017
  • From: Southern Florida Gulf Coast
  • 18,255 posts
Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, May 8, 2021 10:29 PM

I had no idea there were so many good looking castings of crane hooks available.

I use bronze wire from Tichy when rigging equipment. It stays straight to make the hook look heavy, but it lacks any sort of "wire rope" texture.

-Kevin

Living the dream.

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: 4610 Metre's North of the Fortyninth on the left coast of Canada
  • 9,352 posts
Posted by BATMAN on Sunday, May 9, 2021 1:16 PM

Check out ship modeler websites, they tend to have a much larger selection of hooks, pullies, chain, and other stuff along those lines.

Brent

"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Canada, eh?
  • 13,375 posts
Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, May 9, 2021 2:52 PM

danmerkel
...The hooks that came with the kits aren't heavy enough to even pull the thread that I'm using for cables tight....

I used piano wire to create springs that would put downward pressure on the cranes' booms.  This remedy came to mind when one of my cranes was accidentally tipped in storage, de-rigging every cable...a nightmare to re-do.

In the photo below (click for a bigger image) the wire, painted the same colour as the crane first appears under the drum on which much of the "cable" is wound...

...and extends upward, almost to the end of the boom...

Since that first mishap, all of the other cranes have been similarly equipped...

Of course, the drawback is that it's virtually impossible to pose the crane actually doing any lifting.

Wayne

  • Member since
    August 2003
  • From: Collinwood, Ohio, USA
  • 16,367 posts
Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, May 9, 2021 3:38 PM

I have done some of my rigging with braided fishing line. Many colors and thicknesses available, as small as .06mm. It doesn't have fuzzies and doesn't take a set like cotton or nylon thread.

https://tinyurl.com/ydkmop6u

I forget exactly which brand I got but I bought three sizes in a steel gray color (can be painted with India ink or thinned acrylic paints)

I've got 900 yards. Should last me a while.

For ultra-fine work I suggest this:

https://www.caddisflyshop.com/uni-caenis-thread.html

 

Good Luck, Ed

  • Member since
    January 2017
  • From: Southern Florida Gulf Coast
  • 18,255 posts
Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, May 9, 2021 9:07 PM

doctorwayne
I used piano wire to create springs that would put downward pressure on the cranes' booms. 

This is a great idea!

gmpullman
I have done some of my rigging with braided fishing line.

This is another great idea!

-Kevin

Living the dream.

  • Member since
    February 2010
  • From: Indiana
  • 225 posts
Posted by mikeGTW on Thursday, July 1, 2021 2:18 PM

danmerkel

just now saw your pm about the ones I have  if you still want a couple will be glad to send them to you 

Thanks Mike

  • Member since
    January 2017
  • From: Southern Florida Gulf Coast
  • 18,255 posts
Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, July 1, 2021 3:46 PM

gmpullman
I have done some of my rigging with braided fishing line. Many colors and thicknesses available, as small as .06mm. It doesn't have fuzzies and doesn't take a set like cotton or nylon thread.

I just received some, I bought the 6 pound, which is very small.

I am going to place an order for 10 pound and 15 pound line also.

Thanks for the tip. It looks great.

-Kevin

Living the dream.

  • Member since
    September 2002
  • 7,486 posts
Posted by ndbprr on Thursday, July 1, 2021 6:01 PM

Pull the hook tight and put super glue on the line

  • Member since
    September 2002
  • 7,486 posts
Posted by ndbprr on Thursday, July 1, 2021 6:01 PM

Pull the hook tight and put super glue on the line to stiffen it

  • Member since
    August 2003
  • From: Collinwood, Ohio, USA
  • 16,367 posts
Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, July 1, 2021 7:29 PM

SeeYou190
I just received some, I bought the 6 pound, which is very small.

Arrgh! Confused I had some spools of that line set aside for you so we could talk about it during your — all too brief — visit.

Oh well, maybe next time Whistling

Glad you found some. Cheers, Ed

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!