Well, I guess I'm a mask heretic. The hospitalizations are very low, and the death rate has really fallen off, and both continue to drop.
But, that just means the disease is being detected more in younger, healthy people. We are testing more, and therefore finding more cases.
My feeling is that the "herd immunity" group is right. We need to develop that herd immunity, and young people who are not particularly susceptible make excellent candidates for that.
I don't think there will be a safe, effective vaccine for years, if at all, and I don't plan to hide under the bed for those years. Sure, I will wear a mask if required, but eventually everyone is going to get exposed and will potentially be infected. We can't hide forever.
I was possibly exposed to someone who tested positive a couple of weeks ago. We got tested and the results were negative. Oddly, I found myself wishing for a positive result, since it's already been two weeks and I had no symptoms. Now, I'm back to worrying about getting infected again.
I'm 73 years old, I have high blood pressure, diabetes and congestive heart failure. The Covid Panic Brigade would lock me up and not let me even go outside for a long time, but that is not my choice. My spirit was crumbling before some restrictions were lifted a few weeks ago, and a couple of evenings out revived them. I don't want to go back to the early lockdown restrictions.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
How come English Muffins are made in New Jersey ???
The Monastery and our cars are considered 'cleana spaces' everywhere else it is our policy that we must wear masks. This will undoubtedly be a continuing policy of our house long after the CCP virus is in the dustbin.
What the Heck, I have had no cold taking these simple precautions so it seems like a god idea.
ROAR
(PS Calendar of LION seems to have stopped sometime back in June.)
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
BroadwayLionHow come English Muffins are made in New Jersey ???
How come there are no bones in ice cream and vests don't have sleeves?
Good evening
I picked up Judy from work late this afternoon and she said she was really hungry.
Friday I stumbled across this new Sub Shop in Apple Valley. It's called Goodcents Deli Fresh Subs. That sub must have been really good because I had no problem driving Judy a half hour south to go to this sub shop again.
It puts that other sub chain to shame. The bread melts in your mouth and they take a whole loaf of meat and run it through the meat slicer fresh for every sub they make. They had to get three loaves of meat out to make the Penny Club.
The best thing is while we still had our masks on there is a Rita's Custard shop right next door. In 94 degrees and humid that vanilla cherry custard Shake sure hit the spot. We enjoyed our dessert first and enjoyed our subs when we got home
I'm probably going to pack some weight on during this pandemic It's one of the only few things to do anymore is eat
Oh well, I can work it off
TF
How come they call it New Jersey? Were they too lazy to come up with an original name?
Edit; Maybe when I leave this nutty planet with Elon to inhabit a new planet, I'll call it New Vancouver!
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
LastspikemikeJust be aware that the science of mask use is pretty poor. There is in fact no good science supporting mass wearing of masks. It is mainly a publicity stance to encourage public confidence. It is bad public policy. No epidemiologist can claim mask wearing improves safety.
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
LastspikemikeIndeed, if a mask works it does so by efficiently trapping the virus particles in the mask. Viral load is what causes infection. Concentrating coronavirus particles millimetres in front of your lips and nostrils is a really dangerous idea.
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/06/stanford-scientists-contribute-to-who-mask-guidelines.html
LastspikemikeIf you are an infectious covid 19 virus carrier then you should not go out. Period.
LastspikemikeMask wearing is insufficient to prevent you from infecting others. Asymptomatic carriers of covid 19 virus in sufficient load to be dangerous to others is simply not proven to be real.
We need to take information from the experts instead of choosing the storyline we like best. I wish this wasn't a "thing" too, but it is.
Mike
Please.
York1 John
Eveing Diners
Flo, give the gang a mask with a straw hole, straw, and Dirk a dog treat plaese.
Work it was slow and I was Ok with that! Only people in the store came in was to finish a credit ap (she had a mask on) and later her female friend to help pick up the King Set her friend bought. The friend did not have a mask, I told her we have free mask on that table for you. She said "I am only waiting for a friend to help her pick it up, I just wanted to look around". Told her that find but you need to ware a mask, they are free. She said "I have never been told I have to ware a mask! and I was going to buy 1 or maybe 2 mattress! I will wait outside! !" Fine with me, not worth taking a chances for a few $ if I don't live to spend it!
I was told that the city of St Louis is under lockdown again. Don't know it for a fact but would not surprise me.
Later, Ken and Dirk says Woof, Woof.
I hate Rust
Oh oh, The Fiddler has been browsing eBay again. A dangerous past time I know.
How could one not be tempted to buy this beautiful CN bloody nose zebra Eh!
I'm having a real hard time fighting the temptation Oh Well, ... If I lose I win
Good Evening,
TF, go for it! I get a little thrill every time I look at my new Hudson.
Time for some dessert. How about some sticky toffee pudding. A real Brit treat. No it isn't like a pudding as we usually know it here. I had some in England last time and it was really good. In fact I have one to heat up sitting on the kitchen counter. I share.
Ken, how is Dirk's paw?
I thought we were going to stay away from discussions of covid here.
CN Charlie
CNCharlieI thought we were going to stay away from discussions of covid here.
We should. I am afraid I added to it with my personal observations of the way different regions are taking responsibility.
Sorry.
What I am doing right now: I am listening to the Follow The Leader album by Korn. This album came out in 1998, I cannot believe it is 22 years old. I loved to listen to this CD when I was driving before I had an iPod.
TF: The car I had in High School is for sale on eBay right now for $18,000.00, and I am seriously thinking about pulling the trigger. I have a nice garage to park it in now!
This was mine, picture taken when I lived in Nashville going to Vanderbilt in 1985:
I am going to go for a midnight walk on the beach in a few minutes.
Take care all!
-Kevin
Living the dream.
Kevin,
As I recall, you've had a lot of exposure to antique shops and flea markets. Have you ever come across any MRR items that were not of the toy train category? I was recently in Arkansas and there were scads of antique stores. I passed as thinking it would likely be a waste of time. OTOH, "nothing ventured, nothing gained."
Others are certainly welcome to chime in here.
John
AttuvianAs I recall, you've had a lot of exposure to antique shops and flea markets. Have you ever come across any MRR items that were not of the toy train category?
Rarely, but it does happen. 99% of the trains that are in antique stores are broken and/or junk. I get tired of looking at $50.00 Athearn Blue Box Kits and $75.00 Tyco freight cars. A lot of the dealers price stuff way too high because they have no idea what anything is or what it is worth.
Occassionally, you get a prize. Most recently I bought three Scale Structures Limited Mack Truck kits for $5.00 each.
The exception to all this are the antique dealer booths that are actually train dealers. Lindy's Trains still has a few locations in Georgia and North Carolina. There is a train dealer booth in Oviedo, Florida, and recently I was directed to one in Charlotte, North Carolina. These guys know what they are doing and price their stuff to move. They need turnover to be profitable and lots of great stuff can be found at fair prices.
Antique malls are really my wife's passion. Her collection of art glass is amazing, and she loves to look for treasures in antique malls.
I would not go to one just to look for trains unless you knew a model train dealer had a booth in one or you have time to kill. You never know what you will find in an antique mall.
York1I've seen several Thomas layouts at railroad shows, so maybe it gets some kids interested in model railroading.
Hi John,
I have an HO Thomas the Tank Engine with the actual 'Thomas' sounds. I got it strictly to take to train shows to use on my old club's portable layout. I can tell you that the younger kids and the parents lit up when Thomas came around the track and whistled at them or spoke.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
SeeYou190 Attuvian As I recall, you've had a lot of exposure to antique shops and flea markets. Have you ever come across any MRR items that were not of the toy train category? Occassionally, you get a prize. Most recently I bought three Scale Structures Limited Mack Truck kits for $5.00 each. The exception to all this are the antique dealer booths that are actually train dealers. Lindy's Trains still has a few locations in Georgia and North Carolina. There is a train dealer booth in Oviedo, Florida, and recently I was directed to one in Charlotte, North Carolina. These guys know what they are doing and price their stuff to move. They need turnover to be profitable and lots of great stuff can be found at fair prices. Antique malls are really my wife's passion. Her collection of art glass is amazing, and she loves to look for treasures in antique malls. I would not go to one just to look for trains unless you knew a model train dealer had a booth in one or you have time to kill. You never know what you will find in an antique mall. -Kevin
Attuvian
As I recall, you've had a lot of exposure to antique shops and flea markets. Have you ever come across any MRR items that were not of the toy train category?
Good Morning!
Our weather is playing roller coaster - from spring to autumn via winter, and back to summer - all im one day! A few months ago, our weather guessers gve us a drought warning, and now the drought is dripping in liquid form from the sky. This is going to be some wet summer!
We are in Britain and make use of the time in best way there is - traveling by train. Today´s video takes us to Scotland, to the Highland town of Fort William, where we will board "The Jacobite" steam train to the former fishing town of Mallaig. This trip is most enjoyable in autumn, with all the autumnal colors adding a special atmosphere to the spectacular scenery of the Highlands.
More info on the "Jacobite" to be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jacobite_(steam_train)
Enjoy!
Happy times!
Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)
"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"
Good Morning All,
72F already at 7am so it will be in the 90's again I assume. I'll just have a regular to go please Zoe.
Scrambling to finish up one customer car for delivery and my own for Tamworth this weekend. The trailer leaves tomorrow.
No news on the layout front - too much to deal with in the shop so no time at home. Hope the rest of you are doing well. Ciao, J.R.
Tinplate ToddlerToday´s video takes us to Scotland, to the Highland town of Fort William, where we will board "The Jacobite" steam train to the former fishing town of Mallaig.
Ulrich,
Thanks for contributing all the great videos!
Good morning
Thanks for the Autumn field trip to Scotland Ulrich. Beautiful scenery. Loved the Jacobite, especially the tunnel and viaduct bridge scene.
Kevin, I checked out the 66 Mercury on eBay this morning over coffee. Wow! She's a Beauty! Your childhood car and I thought I was tempted with an F7 last night. You definitely came across a more dangerous find than I did.
I didn't even know you could buy cars on eBay. I almost wish you wouldn't have told me because you just created a Monster, a new pastime for me
I'm sure you looked at all the pictures thoroughly. I know that thing hauls ass with that 428 under the hood
Respectfully, I only seen one thing that concerned me, I'm sure you seen it too. Are you going to go look at it before you make a decision?
There's something about the sound of an old classic muscle machine. These new muscle cars with the street and track key sound really mean when the track key is used but not quite the same as an old classic muscle machine.
I wish you the best. I know you are serious and hope you get the chance to go look at it or hopefully you have a friend that lives in Nebraska.
Have a great day everyone
Track fiddlerLoved the Jacobite, especially the tunnel and viaduct bridge scene.
I forgot to mention, that the viaduct made it to Hollywoods fame in the movie "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets".
The Glenfinnan Viaduct is one of the first all concrete viaducts ever built. The line is among the most beautiful railway lines of the world and high up on my bucket list. I doubt, though, that I´ll ever make it up there, before I kick the bucket. In the good old days, the beauty of the line came with a distinct feature - the smell of salt water and dead fish coming from the trains, which always hauled fish cars behind the engine, so the passengers could enjoy the aroma.
That's pretty cool Ulrich.
I never was a huge Harry Potter fan but my daughter was for quite a while. Now that you mention it I do remember seeing that bridge clip. She showed me it because she knows I like trains.
I just about swallowed my tongue one time when I was watching Nanny McPhee with her. All those years I thought the Pink Floyd Animals jacket was a painting. And then one day I see the real building in England with the pig floating in the sky I remember saying Are you kidding me! Yes, ... I hit the rewind button in amazement
Howdy ..... Family visitors left yesterday, and suddenly it is quiet here. 2 grandkids kept us very busy over the long 4th of July weekend here at the lake. Fishing, boating, swimming, kayaking, etc. Fireworks viewed on a boat were very nice with a full moon.
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It looks like you Diners have been busy with much to say. I'll try to catch up with your posts later.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
I think the big problem re masks is people don't understand the purpose. It's not about protecting you, it's about protecting other people from you.
When you have surgery, the doctors, nurses and technicians in the operating room aren't wearning masks and gloves to protect them from getting germs from you; they're wearing them to protect you from getting germs from them. Wearing a mask doesn't necessarily do a great job of protecting the person wearing it from germs. What masks do really well is prevent the person wearing it from spreading their airborne germs when they exhale, especially when they cough or sneeze.
That means wearing masks to prevent the spread of a virus really only works if everyone wears one when they're around people. That's especially true with Covid-19, where there is evidence that half (or more) of people with the virus are asymptomatic, so could be spreading the illness without knowing it.
It's like drunk driving. Drunk driving isn't illegal to stop you from getting drunk and driving your car into a telephone pole and killing yourself; it's to try to stop you from getting drunk and plowing your car into a schoolbus full of kids and killing them.
Garry
Nice to see you! Your Grandson and Granddaughter sure look like some great kids. I'm sure you are proud of them.
After three months of no socialization it sure was nice to spend time with Family a short time ago over here. I was sad to see them go. Things seemed a little quiet and empty for a while after.
I'm glad to here you had such a wonderful time with your Family
Lastspikemike - while I agree to what you write, others may not and feel offended. I find it sometimes quite difficult to keep my mouth shut and at times I don´t succeed. But let´s not get carried away and remember this is a model railroading forum and while the Diner is an offtopic place, we should stay within the general topic of trains and model trains and not drift off to hot button items.
Reminder to myself - keep that in mind!
News on the house front. Petra and I pretty much concur that we are not really city folks and made to live in a city, that never gets completely dark in the night so you can´t see the stars, and which never stops hustling and bustling so you can´t listen to Mother Nature´s night time concerto.
We are beginning to once more toy with the idea of a small shipping container home, added with an enclosed deck/porch, which would give us extra usable space and keep heating costs down. Such homes can be had for reasonable prices, but it means pairing down to the bare bones of a minimalist life. A lot of things we consider essential in our life won´t be able to come with us. While I am prepared to make such a bold move, I am not yet sure about Petra. Finding a reasonable priced lot is possible, finding one where you are allowed to put up such a building remains challenging. I am firing up my CAD program to put some of my ideas "on paper".
Track fiddler I checked out the 66 Mercury on eBay this morning over coffee. Wow! She's a Beauty! <SNIP> I know that thing hauls ass with that 428 under the hood
It has a 428-4V Super Marauder, which is basically the same engine as a Cobra Jet. That is why I put that silly Cobra Jet scoop on mine.
The Mercury S-55 is a full sized car, but it was still fast. I loved that 428 sound through a pair of Cherry Bombs.
The rust is not an issue. All 1964-1967 Mercurys have that problem in the exact same areas. I am happier that the seller did not try to sand it out and repaint for a quick sale. That way I can fix it right.
If the remodel on the house was complete, I would have bought it already. Red ones are hard to find.
Heartland Division CB&Q Family visitors left yesterday, and suddenly it is quiet here. 2 grandkids kept us very busy over the long 4th of July weekend here at the lake. Fishing, boating, swimming, kayaking, etc. Fireworks viewed on a boat were very nice with a full moon.
I am so jealous of you having grandchildren. I wish one of my daughters would get into action and make one for me.
They look like they love visiting your house.
LastspikemikeHad nobody posted about the issue I'd have stuck with trains.
There used to be a sticky about discussing Covid-19 on these forums, but it seems to have vanished.
Hopefully Steve-O can put it back for clarification.
Mornin' folks!
Heartland Division CB&QHowdy ..... Family visitors left yesterday, and suddenly it is quiet here. 2 grandkids kept us very busy over the long 4th of July weekend here at the lake. Fishing, boating, swimming, kayaking, etc. Fireworks viewed on a boat were very nice with a full moon.
Aren't grandkids wonderful!!! You usually see them on their best behavior... Best thing is that you get to give them back to their parents... Yours are sure cute kids! Only problem with grandkids that age is that they sooner or later turn into Middle Schoolers which are nobody's favorite animals..... (only kidding) My oldest Granddaughter just turned 13 and is still a total sweetheart. Enjoy your time with them (I know you do)!
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
I am glad I paid the extra for a late checkout time, but it is now necessary to pack up and hit the road for home.
I can't wait to see my baby in Orlando this afternoon.
Grandma used to live on a lake like that. And I *was* a kid too once!
You have no proof, and it is impossible to do an rigidly scientific study anyway.
Do what you need to do, and do not come to me if you die of the CCP virus.
Besides, how did that ddnf virus get back into the dienr, we had better call the fumigators.