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Welcome to Jeffrey's Trackside Diner July, 2020 In The UK and British Isles

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:30 PM

SeeYou190
And that is your loss. With the massive number of German beers that share the same corporate ownership as Anheuser Busch, I doubt there is really much difference anymore.

True, that the "big brand" beer tastes more or less the same, but there are still numerous local breweries making good beer. You just don´t see it in the supermarkets, nor is it advertised. Spatenbraeu is a typical Bavarian beer, very light, refreshing, but quite different from the beers you will buy outside of Bavaria.

Anheuser Busch owns following German brands:

  • Beck´s
  • Diebels
  • Franziskaner
  • Haake-Beck
  • Hasseröder
  • Löwenbräu
  • Spatenbräu

Zhese brands are what I call supermarket beers (there are others also in that category). You´ll find them in any supermarket across the country. There are over 1,400 breweries in this country, and maybe 200 of them belong to some sort of conglomerate.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:24 PM

Tinplate Toddler
Oh, and btw. Budwiser (SIC) would not be sold as beer in my country

And that is your loss. With the massive number of German beers that share the same corporate ownership as Anheuser Busch, I doubt there is really much difference anymore.

The best German Beer I have sampled is Spaten. It tastes like Heineken that has not gone bad.

Oh wait... we are in England... My favorite English Beer is Boddington's Pub Ale. It is not dark or heavy. I like it quite well.

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:10 PM

Tinplate Toddler
Oh, and btw. Budwiser would not be sold as beer in my country

 

I have friends who say it shouldn't be sold here, either.

I don't care.  I like it.

Beer

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:05 PM

I spent too much of the day at a drive-thru virus testing station.  Lots of cars.  It took 45 minutes to go through.  So much for efficiency.  We may have been exposed 10 days ago but have had no symptoms.  My best outcome would be Positive test but Recovered, so my GF would stop being so paranoid.

Given the same parameters, I wouldn't waste another day like this.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:04 PM

Good Morning!

Got up just now - it´s 5am! Too early for my taste, but that´s the way it is.

York1
One thing I probaby won't enjoy in the UK this month is the beer. I love beer that is very light. I have never enjoyed heavy dark beer. I know some of you will think I'm missing the best, but there's just something about the taste I don't like. Give me an ice cold Bud Light and I'm happy.

It´s not all dark and heavy ales in Britain. Each pub usually offers a variety of different kind of beers, including Bitters,Lagers, IPAs and other craft beers. Oh, and btw. Budweiser would not be sold as beer in my country Cool

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:42 PM

My wife grew up in the Cleveland area, and keeps telling me how beautiful the area is south of the city.

One thing I probaby won't enjoy in the UK this month is the beer.  I love beer that is very light.  I have never enjoyed heavy dark beer.  I know some of you will think I'm missing the best, but there's just something about the taste I don't like.  Give me an ice cold Bud Light and I'm happy.

I have my annual doctor's physical tomorrow.  Each year, one of the questions they ask me is if I drink alcohol, and how much.  I said I have two cans of beer each day, and the doctor said that's good.  He said two is OK, but not three.  The thing he didn't say was what size can. 

We had been planning on seeing some of the grandkids this weekend, but we heard one of them was not feeling well, so out of caution I guess we will stay home.  We haven't seen any of the grandchildren in five months.  My wife is not happy.  Zoom is not the same as being there.

Another unhappy creature in our house is Daisy the Dachshund.  I have put her on a diet.  Every so often I catch her staring at me, and I know she is not thinking nice thoughts about me since I'm not feeding her as much.  She is the kind of dog that would eat everything you gave her until she got sick, and then she'd eat more.

Lots of noise outside.  The neighborhood kids are all shooting fireworks.  I don't mind -- when I was a kid I used to shoot fireworks the entire two weeks before the 4th.  Daisy is deaf, so she doesn't mind the noise.

Have a good evening, everyone.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:08 PM

What a great day!

I started at the Mad River and NKP Museum, which was closed. I was still able to see about half of the equipment up close, and I was able to take pretty good pictures of a lot more through the slats in the fence.

The two hobby shops  visited in Cleveland were both busts, and I did not make any purchases.

Then I spent several hours hiking the trails in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park. It is not like any other of the National Parks I have visited. There are several hiking trails all seperated from one another that you need to drive from one to the other. They make nice big loops which really helped with social distancing. I had a great time. It looked like rain for a while, but the weather held good all day.

Then I took a scenic ride South on State Road 93. That is some of the most beautiful country I have ever seen.

Then... Out of the blue... I stumbled upon the Age Of Steam Roundhouse in the middle of nowhere! I knew nothing of this place, it was shear liuck I came across it.

I arrived there after 7:00, so of course it was not open. I took a few pictures through the fence. I will 100% for certain be coming back here to see this place.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:49 PM

drgwcs
I had noticed in the old diner yesterday that Kevin (See you 190) was heading back from Ohio. Where were you headed through? If going through Columbus you have to stop at the Train Station on Indianola Ave and Robbie's Hobbies as well. Which way are you headed back?

I am heading over towards West Virginia, then down the Atlantic Coast for a few days.

I stopped in both Robbie's Hobbies and The Train Station when I was in Columbus las year.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:26 PM

I've heard they are better than chicken.  I don't think I will ever find out, but I did try calf fries, better known as Rocky Mountain oysters.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:56 PM

I forgot to mention that the photo is where this guy lives.

Being a National holiday he is obviously at home today watching a little telly.

Somehow, "the Canadian Pacific muskrat" just doesn't have the same ring to it.Laugh

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:35 PM

Lastspikemike

Beaverlodge. Muskrats live in muddy holes in the banks of rivers or lake shores. The industrious beaver builds a lake and then a lodge with an underwater entrance only. To catch a beaver in his lodge the predator has to hold its breath for a very long time, and, as it comes up inside the lodge, nose first, the beaver will be waiting.....

 

 
You sir, are correct....  I didn't look closely at the photo before I posted.  However, Muskrats do on occasion. "In marsh environments, the muskrat builds a dome-shaped lodge of plants."  I have seen them.  I live near the Montezuma Wildlife Area in the Finger Lakes region of NYS and there are several built in the marsh there.  That said they do look different from the Beaver Lodge shown.  I just didn't look closely....  I have also spent close to 50 years as a Boy Scout leader and we had several Beaver Lodges in a small natural lake at my first camp and many dams and lodges built in the small streams in the Southern Tier of NYS where I taught for many years.
 
So... Mea Culpa!  Guess I singing the old song "Muskrat Ramble" in my old head (I was a music techer, BTW).
 
Good to have you aboard!
 
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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:28 PM

Happy Canada Day

BATMAN
Darwinism at work. My daughter recently showed me an article connected to one of her Anthropology courses suggesting when things went from survival of the fitess to survival of the smartest, where brain power started to take over from physical might in determining who survives.

I guess it will be a few more years before Darwinism is perfected.

What some of you may know as Chincoteauge ponies are survivors of very early shipwrecks on the East coast.  They wander around the barrier island on the coast of Maryland, and usually there is a watcher, someone who makes sure people don't mess with the ponies.  No watcher was around this stupid woman

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/watch/woman-kicked-by-wild-assateague-horse-after-she-hits-the-horse-with-shovel/vp-BB16drfL

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 4:00 PM

Good afternoon .... 

I should have said "Happy Canada Day" when I stopped in this morning. Hope Canadians are having a great day. 

While in England, we can diiscuss history of the first steam locomotive, called the "Pen-y-Darren". It was designed and built by Richard Tevithick. It made its first trip in 1804 hauling 5 wagons with 70 people aboard. It went 9.75 miles in 4 hours and 5 minutes. Average speed was 2.4 mph. 

Below is a photo of a replica of the Pen-y-Darren.

 

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Posted by Lazers on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 3:01 PM

York1
Paul, I apologize for the misleading post.  I was thinking of the diner move.  I only wish it was a real-life vacation to the UK.

Hi John, no need to apologise, I thought it was a bit of fun. I hope you enjoyed your Breakfast. Smoked Herring (Kippers) are a UK breakfast special and when you are in Scotland, try some Haggis or Porridge - the Scottish way, add salt only!

As for Beers, you are totally spoilt for choice. Black Sheep, Theakston's Old Peculiar, John Smiths, Trophy, Camerons, Whitbread, Newcastle Brown Ale, Mcewan's Export + all the speciality craft beers that have have emerged from 'Micro Breweries', in recent times. All of these may take some getting used to, however.

Hi Ulrich, thanks for your support in my letting-off steam. But it saddens me whenever I see abandoned Railways/Railroads from anywhere around the world. I see it as a way of life, destroyed. My - how Lego models have changed since I was a 60's kid. No knobbley bits to attach other bricks to. Happy times. Paul

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 2:40 PM

BATMAN

 

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Hmmmm, Is that the province of Muskrat?  That sticks well, I think!

Say Ulrich, Here is a nice little country place for you...  Naw, you can't have it!  That is my son's place in England.  Well out in the countryside and well protected from all kinds of dis-eases and such.  They have a nice local pub where they have been able to get takout for the duration and the pub owner always includes a couple pints with the meal for free.....  The house is somewhere between 400 and 600 hundred years old I think.  He is lucky to be working from home via Zoom so he doesn't have to travel anywhere near London at the moment.

I will see what he might be able to provide in terms of some of the trains he has been on over there.....

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 1:37 PM

I treated myself to a goodie today! To celebrate my 5 years of being a non-smoker and my in 7 weeks upcoming birthday I ordered a Lego set of the famous Swiss Federal Railways Ce 6/8 II, better known as the "Crocodile". It was released today and is exoected to be sold out quickly.

I just got the confirmation that  it is on its way to my doorstep, but I won´t be able to open the box before Aug. 19th! Crying

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Posted by herrinchoker on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 1:28 PM

ED,

Good move,  feet wet ??

Ulrich,

Had my lenses replaced in my eyes, the left one was folded in the process of being implanted. Now it is like looking through a pile of birch branches. I got used to it----Perhaps at some point I will have a re-doo.

3.6 inches of rain the last 36 hrs., more to come today, garden needs it. River full of striped bass at present, wife is nagging for some fresh fish, sooo----. Don't go plug fishing with a retriever---

Hope all have a safe, sane Fourth---

Prayers for those in need, best to all.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 1:09 PM

Good morning from a cool wet West Coast. I am stalling before I tackle the bathroom project today, I am on my third mug of coffee.Coffee I have done lots of reno's with no issues, this one on the other hand.....?

Kevin, you were right to leave the gathering considering what is going on. We are going through similar issues as someone was pushing to rent out a restaurant  for a celebration of life for the close friends of this lady whose Estate I am looking after. So far not one person out of the 63 she has asked  thinks this is a good idea and not one said they will attend. The lady that passed on was heavily involved with the church to a point where the head of her church for BC will conduct her service at some point. It will be a huge service and has now been put off till spring. Not sure what kind of cheque I'll be writing for it, but it won't be cheap. I am glad people have brains enough to turn this ladies restaurant idea down.

Darwinism at work. My daughter recently showed me an article connected to one of her Anthropology courses suggesting when things went from survival of the fitess to survival of the smartest, where brain power started to take over from physical might in determining who survives. It was pretty interesting to read.

All my family on all sides comes from England, my wife immigrated when she was six, my Mom when she was two in 1921. My earliest relatives arrived in Canada to the Swan River Valley in Manitoba in the late 1700s ( I was born in Winnipeg) and some are traced to what is now Virginia even earlier. I have the photo albums of all the Grandparents and great Grandparents that include a lot of RR pics of British steam. I'll have to dig them out and scan a few.

Best get to the reno work, the sooner I am done the sooner I can unwrap the layout, I sure miss watching my trains run, plus I have the completed water tower to add.

All the best to all and happy Canada Day!

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Posted by drgwcs on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:06 PM

I had noticed in the old diner yesterday that Kevin (See you 190) was heading back from Ohio. Where were you headed through? If going through Columbus you have to stop at the Train Station on Indianola Ave and Robbie's Hobbies as well. Which way are you headed back?

 

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 11:56 AM

Lastspikemike
Beg pardon if I posted something too controversial to this thread. I'm new here.

No harm done. We enjoy differing opinions, when voiced with due respect!

I rode the RH&D Rlwy, back in 1973 and it was a tight squeeze as well. Getting my 6´4" inches hulk stowed away properly took some effort.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:56 AM

I'd be suprised anyone is taking the risk to travel overseas right now with the pandemic going on!  ..  Or if this is a "virtual" visit, I'll have a real scones or British food instead of imaginary since my wife is a Brit.  She makes real Yorkshire pudding pretty often.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:55 AM

Good morning ..

Ed .... Thanks for the move to UK, and thanks to all who contributed so far. ..... I have a few things I can contribute this month, and I will do so when I can.

 

Bret .... I can image what Bear could do with that last photo. He could make a Bear Toon like "That big airplane is sticking out its tongue."  

 

I'll be back later. 

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:37 AM

BigDaddy
I am sure Amtrak pays trackage fees to CSX in my area but passenger traffic is often slowed by freight traffic and it is not a smooth ride.

In my country, it is the other way around - freight trains get ditched for passenger trains.

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:26 AM

Good morning!  I've waited a while for this, so Chloe, I'll have a full English breakfast.  I'd also like lots of black coffee.

Paul, I apologize for the misleading post.  I was thinking of the diner move.  I only wish it was a real-life vacation to the UK.

Not much going on here.  It's bill-paying day, but that takes about five minutes.  The rest of the day is open.

Last year, my daughters and families all began their European tour in the UK.  They then moved on to France riding the train in the tunnel.  I should have gone with them.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:07 AM

I loved the Rocky Mountaineer, but it is hardly commuting, business travel nor inter-city transportation.

As rail travel and interstate highway grew, development followed the highways.  The car culture is big in the US.  Acquiring land for a high speed rail line is cost prohibitive.  Even low speed lines are expensive to build in the US. 

I don't know that the rails are a public utitlity.  I am sure Amtrak pays trackage fees to CSX in my area but passenger traffic is often slowed by freight traffic and it is not a smooth ride.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:31 AM

Strange thoughts to be voiced in a model railroading forum, I must say! I fully disagree to what you say. Train travel still is the most economical and environmentally friendliest way of moving goods and people, especially when electricity drives the trains. If car drivers and airline passengers would be charged the real cost incurring to a society, there would hardly be a car on the road nor an air service.

Back to British trains!

Here is a short video on the 15" gauge Ravenglass & Eskdale Rlwy.! It´s not a toy train, but a public railway running on a timetable for the general public!

Happy times!

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:32 AM

Good Afternoon!

Too late for lunch, but the right time for some coffee and a piece of cake!

Good news on the home searching front. We have found a nice and cozy 1-bedroom apartment in a quiet street in Görlitz. We have set up a date to have a look at the place on July 13th, so we will hop in our car on the 12th to drive those 400 miles down there! I will try to set up other visits around that date, so we will have options available.

Lazers
My own research has brought me to firmly believe that Britains Railways would have been far better left alone as the big 4 private companies, GWR, LMS, LNER & SR. They may have required Goverment assistance, but our Rail Network would have survived far more intact had Nationalisation not provided a Lever for certain types to weald their Axe.

Paul, I am in total agreement to your statement! The same happened here! The total cost of all of the various operations have gone up drastically, as each separate entity maintains a costly, but mainly useless overhead. Another result is that hardly any of the managers has railway experience, both in the sense of technical and commercial implications. The result? Ticket pricing through the roof, trains overbooked and running late, customer service non-existing, demotivated staff and angry passengers!

Happy times!

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Posted by Lazers on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:21 AM

Tinplate Toddler

Dave - in legal terms, British Railways was never a company, but a department of the British Transport Commission, a public entity, which did not follow regular accounting procedures set for private enterprises. Any loss had to be covered by the government out of tax money. As the losses were becoming a budget threat, Britain did, what most other European railroads did a few years later as well - abolish steam traction, cut-down on services, reduce the network. Like in all other European countries, this did not show the attempted benefits.

Btw, I wrote my thesis on the privatization of state-owned railways.

Back from my visit to the eye doctor - all is good, I just need to be more patient!

Hi Everyone, and welcome to the UK. It is nice to have you visit us, again. It is 11:15 and outside, tipping it down and the winds have swung back round from the north. Our GCH is running - in July!  So I think I may feel like a 2nd helping of Full English Breakfast, at lunchtime. John had me fooled about his visit, albeit I did wonder how he being allowed to holiday before the Hotels open on the 4th of July (Independance Day)

Ulrich, British Railways as a Nationised entity since 1948, was what most people knew of, up until it's being franchised into separate Railway companies in the 1990's. My own research has brought me to firmly believe that Britains Railways would have been far better left alone as the big 4 private companies, GWR, LMS, LNER & SR. They may have required Goverment assistance, but our Rail Network would have survived far more intact had Nationalisation not provided a Lever for certain types to weald their Axe. Their attitude towards and the damage they inflicted on the BR network - is what led me (personally) to commence modelling USA Railroads.

Anyway, have a nice stay. I pressume in Cyber-world all the museums and preserved Railways are open. We missed our June holiday in North Wales, where their are some great little Narrow Gauge lines. Paul

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 3:05 AM

gmpullman
Sorry if there was any confusion, Dave. I had offered to host the diner back on Thursday then there wasn't much discussion after that other than one post between you and Ulrich.

Hi Ed,

I missed your offer to open the Diner so the error was on my part. No problem! Thanks again for doing it.

I like the look of that breakfast!DinnerSmileYes

Dave

 

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 2:51 AM

Dave - in legal terms, British Railways was never a company, but a department of the British Transport Commission, a public entity, which did not follow regular accounting procedures set for private enterprises. Any loss had to be covered by the government out of tax money. As the losses were becoming a budget threat, Britain did, what most other European railroads did a few years later as well - abolish steam traction, cut-down on services, reduce the network. Like in all other European countries, this did not show the attempted benefits.

Btw, I wrote my thesis on the privatization of state-owned railways.

Back from my visit to the eye doctor - all is good, I just need to be more patient!

Happy times!

Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)

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