Ed's right. Does he have pictures? They were in active development by Standard Stoker after 1937 so there ought to be some shots, somewhere...
OvermodWhat great Next Big Thing device of the late 1930s, inspired by a method of oil firing, was installed on 74 B&O locomotives ... before disappearing nearly entirely by the end of WWII?
I'm going to stick my neck out here and say Front-Delivery Stokers.
Colonel Emerson was always trying some pretty radical ideas. I believe the peak number was eighty B&O and Alton locomotives to have the front stoker installed.
Regards, Ed
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[quote user="Wolf359]In what year was the first Union Pacific Challenger built?[/quote]
1936.
(This assumes that the earlier B&O engines are 'Camels', not Camelbacks or Mother Hubbards as the design came to be known)
What great Next Big Thing device of the late 1930s, inspired by a method of oil firing, was installed on 74 B&O locomotives ... before disappearing nearly entirely by the end of WWII? (Truth to tell ... disappearing very shortly after the beginning of WWII)
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Off hand, I'd say water tube boilers.
dehusman In which country was the first camelback engine operated and for an extra added bonus, which railroad owned it?
In which country was the first camelback engine operated and for an extra added bonus, which railroad owned it?
According to my research, the first true camelback was built in 1877 in Reading, Pennsylvania, right here in the USA. It was a 4-6-0 built by the P&R's own reading shops.
In what year was the first Union Pacific Challenger built?
Are you referring to the true camelback (anthracite burner) or to B&O's Winan's "Camel"?
gmpullman I hope the OP is OK with that
I hope the OP is OK with that
Of course I am Ed Interesting stuff, enjoyed. I think extra info on related trivia makes the thread more fun
P.S. See added rule number 5.
Carry on
TF
Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
SPSOT fanI also though of NYC's weird RDC experiment!
At the risk of being a "post-hog" and in light of the fact that this thread is trivia-oriented, here's a copy of my New York Central employee's magazine from September, of '66, with some insight into the M-497:
NYC_Headlight_1 by Edmund, on Flickr
NYC_Headlight_2 by Edmund, on Flickr
NYC_Headlight_3 by Edmund, on Flickr
I seem to recall that the engines were later used on some of NYC's "Snow-Blowers".
Cheers, Ed
hon30critter Hi JaBear, Despite being a Canadian, my knowledge of Canadian locomotive history is sadly lacking so I can't answer your question. However, I would like to thank you for the video of the Schienenzeppelin! Seeing the uncovered frame was really interesting, and it was also neat to see the various models that were developed. Alas, it was not a great concept so it is relegated to the history books. Dave Edit: Google is your friend! The very first Canadian built locomotive was named the 'Toronto' and it was built in 1853 by a foundry at Queen and Victoria Sts in (you guessed it) Toronto. It was a 25 tonner which was massive for the time and it ran between Toronto and Aurora (about 30 miles). Here she is: I'll wait until you tell me whether I am right or wrong before concocting a new trivia question. Dave
Hi JaBear,
Despite being a Canadian, my knowledge of Canadian locomotive history is sadly lacking so I can't answer your question.
However, I would like to thank you for the video of the Schienenzeppelin! Seeing the uncovered frame was really interesting, and it was also neat to see the various models that were developed. Alas, it was not a great concept so it is relegated to the history books.
Dave
Edit: Google is your friend! The very first Canadian built locomotive was named the 'Toronto' and it was built in 1853 by a foundry at Queen and Victoria Sts in (you guessed it) Toronto. It was a 25 tonner which was massive for the time and it ran between Toronto and Aurora (about 30 miles).
Here she is:
I'll wait until you tell me whether I am right or wrong before concocting a new trivia question.
You are correct.
https://thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/locomotives-and-rolling-stock
I also though of NYC's weird RDC experiment! Those are aircraft engines, I had though they might be JT3s (from 707) or JT8s (like a DC9), but I googled it and according to Wikipedia they are ex Convair B-36 Peacemaker JT-47 engines. (Here's the link to the Wikipedia page for those interested: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-497_Black_Beetle) If your firmiliar with the naucels on a B-36 you'll see NYC hardly changed the engines on the M-497!
Regards, Isaac
I model my railroad and you model yours! I model my way and you model yours!
hon30critterAlas, it was not a great concept so it is relegated to the history books.
Oh, somebody did try an aircraft engine glued to a passenger car one more time:
Still, it was a one-off
Now, back to our regular programming — Ed
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Correct - it´s a typo, I meant Q class (gosh, I need a new pair of glasses!)
Happy times!
Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)
"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"
Actually New Zealand Railways Q class of 1901 built by Baldwin.
The G class Pacific was much later. NZR had three Garrett locos that weren't so successful so they were rebuilt into six standard locks.
bagal
NZR´s G class in 1901.
Which rail vehicle used an aircraft engine for propulsion?
Track fiddler I should have taken my 24-hour leave of absence while I still had the chance
Oh you did. I mixed it up with your sign off phrase.
And I beg your humble pardon.
I best give up my speed reading technology to someone that knows how to do it I hope now I didn't doink up my own thread. I should have taken my 24-hour leave of absence while I still had the chance
If there's still hope, carry on with Andre's question please
Track fiddler Post Hog! Andre Where the heck are you? Seriously it's your turn to ask a Railroad trivia question, you can't just go away. If you don't want the responsibility of taking over the post until I get back I can understand and I will give it to Brent. But you got to be a team player and ask the next trivia question because there was an answer as you answered the last one right. (Minnetonka) And a good job I may add Now it's your turn to ask a railroad trivia question. Thanks TF
Post Hog!
Andre
Where the heck are you? Seriously it's your turn to ask a Railroad trivia question, you can't just go away.
If you don't want the responsibility of taking over the post until I get back I can understand and I will give it to Brent.
But you got to be a team player and ask the next trivia question because there was an answer as you answered the last one right. (Minnetonka)
And a good job I may add
Now it's your turn to ask a railroad trivia question. Thanks
I did ask a question after asking what now? Read the entire edited reply!
Track fiddler So I'm the stuckee now? OK, I asked the next question, but there have been no answers as yet. andrechapelon Damn,what do I do now? You ask the next question Andre. Might I suggest, when in doubt, go re-read the rules and this may help P.S. Andre You were the last poster before I got kicked off for 24 hours so now you are the OP to handle things until I get back I have all the confidence in the world you can handle it, you may want to study the rules though TF
So I'm the stuckee now? OK, I asked the next question, but there have been no answers as yet.
andrechapelon Damn,what do I do now?
Damn,what do I do now?
You ask the next question Andre.
Might I suggest, when in doubt, go re-read the rules and this may help
P.S. Andre
You were the last poster before I got kicked off for 24 hours so now you are the OP to handle things until I get back I have all the confidence in the world you can handle it, you may want to study the rules though
Dang, I knew that one and even have a picture of it but I forgot about that trip to the Duluth Depot.
I need to do something about my short-term memory.
Ed tried to warn before anyone else had the question right
4) A new rule, You can help your buddy if you see he has the wrong answer before someone else answers it right.
I'm kicked off the thread for 24 hours per OP's rules. I'm a team player, you Kids take it from here
lone geep James J Hill. Keeping with the Northwestern theme. What is the name of the first locomotive of the Northern Pacific Railway?
James J Hill.
Keeping with the Northwestern theme. What is the name of the first locomotive of the Northern Pacific Railway?
"Minnetonka".
http://zenithcity.com/archive/historic-industry/the-locomotive-minnetonka/
The Lackawanna was once known a "The Route of Phoebe Snow". Which railroad was known as the "Dan Patch Line"?
Hint.... the color of green is in your name Ed!
Unless you may just be toying with me
gmpullman The Four Aces was built in 1930 and N-P bought it in August of '31. Their first? Just wondered... Cheers, Ed
The Four Aces was built in 1930 and N-P bought it in August of '31.
Their first?
Just wondered... Cheers, Ed
I hope so Ed, otherwise the OP, (being me) is kicked off for a day.
The next question was.
What color green is BNSF's green?
And that question is up for grabs for anyone that answers it first to be able to ask the next question.
Track fiddler4-8-4 Timken 1111
4-8-4 Timken 1111, this Northern known as four aces.
Lone Geep
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