Post That Steamer

[Overmod]

Track fiddler

I wouldn't have thought people would die with everything blowing out the front.

In order to eject superheater elements, steam and shockwaves have to be inside the flues.  The flues are open at both ends, so regardless of whether this was a superheater failure or not, the firebox would experience significant overpressure.

That this wasn't the normal sort of crownsheet failure, as at Hinton for example, can be seen because the boiler shell is still intact and on the chassis.  Rocket effect from progressive staybolt failure would almost assuredly have lifted the boiler up and off the chassis (as in a number of pictures, including the one on the industrial-history site, that show all the superheater tubes still attached to the header with the rest of the boiler aft of that point MIA; I think Staufer's picture of the J3A that exploded at Canastota in the WWII years has a discussion of this)

 

[Track fiddler]

That's quite a unique one Mike.  I had a B&O Dockside switcher that was small like that when I was in my early teens.  I never understood with no tender where they put the coal, oil or water or enough of it.  Things that make you go hmmm.

Bear,  That's another great drawing.  A lot of talent you have.  I did what I called a sketch about 20 years ago when I was in the hospital after knee reconstruction.  I guess it was a drawing as it took a long time as well.  It was a 4-4-0 General going over a trestle.  That drawing is somewhere in my storage facility and I would have to really dig to find it.

 

 

TF

[emdmike]

Roundhouse Engineering Lady Anne class named Applecross.  This is live steam in G/16mm scale narrow gauge.   Can be gauged to run on O or G scale track.   

[Tinplate Toddler]

Bear, you are a true artist! I am awed!

["JaBear"]

I’ve always been attracted to the German locomotives, black and red paint scheme, thanks, Ulrich.

 

Thanks for the kind remarks regarding my drawing, I don’t do sketches because to me a sketch is quick, whereas my drawings take a looooong loooooong time! Besides I have to be in the right frame of mind!!

 

Here’s another one, NZR class Fa 250, 0-6-2T, this locomotive had a working life of 85 years, and is currently partially restored but in a dismantled state.

Fa 250 by Bear, on Flickr

 

Enjoying the offerings,

Cheers, the Bear.

[Track fiddler]

I like those steamers you posted Ulrich

I'm still awake,  it's one of those nights where I tried to sleep but it just didn't work.

The thing that always puzzled me Ulrich was weight vs bearing, number of wheels versus traction.

My model locomotives with four wheels on each truck always pulled more cars than the locomotives with six wheels on each truck.  With this thought, I often wondered why they didn't spread the wheels out further on a steam engine.

I think the more weight bearing down on less wheels beared down harder and pulled more cars.

I hope you understand what I'm saying here and would appreciate what you think about that

 

TF

 

P.S.   I think you already hit the rack and I'm going to try that again once more.

[Tinplate Toddler]

Increasing loads required ever stronger steam engines, which, in turn, required larger boilers and fireboxes. The radius of curves, however, set the limit of how long a boiler could be. For narrow gauge lines, the sharp curves set tight limits. The answer was in articulated locomotives! There are quite a few different types of articulated steam engines, the better known ones being Mallets and Beyer-Garratts. In the 1860s, an Englsh chap named Fairlie developed a bogie steam engine, with a swiveling truck, similar to a Forney. Now imagine two of these engines coupled back to back and you have a typical Double Fairlie, like the ones employed by the Ffestiniog Railway in northern Wales/UK.

[gmpullman]

Track fiddler

Thank you all for participating and feel free to do the night owl thing.

A young GM Pullman holds down the right hand seat on this USRA Mike:

4070-Photo-Backups-261 by Edmund, on Flickr

I was fortunate to have been involved with this engine at a youing age. I didn't even have a driver's licence yet 

4070_crop1 by Edmund, on Flickr

Those were some fun times 

Cheers, Ed

[Track fiddler]

I think this is really cool getting MR participants chiming in from long distances from other parts the world.  You got a caged locomotive too Peter!  Besides the cool Steamer you posted, the roof structure above it had me really intrigued.

They're both cool.  Johnny Cash would say "shiny, long and black"

I thank you for posting Peter.

 

Look at the time, way pass my bedtime, I need to hit the rack but feel free to post and I'll catch up with you over coffee in the morning

 

Thank you all for participating and feel free to do the night owl thing.  It is definitely day somewhere

 

Post that Steamer

 

 

TF

[Da Stumer]

Not my photos, these are from Wikipedia, the ones I have taken are on a computer I haven't used for a long time.

Mika-3 #161 at the Korean National Railroad Museum in Uiwang, South Korea.

Pasi-5 #23, at the same location

Both of these are Japanese-built specifically for the standard gauge Korean railroad during the pre-war occupation period.

[Track fiddler]

I thank you for the diagram Ed.  I have never researched a steam engine before.  I must claim ignorance that I always thought the giant cylinder in front of the cab was an empty tube for making pressure.  I always thought Steamers looked cool but I guess I was just looking at the outside cosmetics and thought the cylinder was just a large pressure tube.

I know an extreme amount of knowledge of the things that I do know about,  just some that's not this one I guess.

My other brother is a research scientist of artificial intelligence for the government.  I am only the artist of the family.  Needless to say he does make more money than me.

I got to say though, I learned a few things today and as long as I learn something new everyday, that's good enough for me.  Not only interesting but well appreciated.

Thanks for the lesson Ed.  It was well learned

 

P.S.  I am by no way shape or form a sarcastic person.  I really did mean what I just said.  I never knew too much about steam engines but the basics.

 

I seem to have more pictures of "Lions in the Cage"  I prefer the free-range ones better that I have seen here.  Hopefully someone has another one of those

 

 

TF

[gmpullman]

BigDaddy

Those are not hoses, they are flue tubes, blown out.  More pictures here

In several of those boiler explosion photos, the skinny tubes are the superheater pipes. They nest inside larger flues and, as the name would imply, superheat the steam.

In most designs they are folded over twice making a four-pass circuit for the steam to be heated.

Really makes a mess. Seeing boiler explosion photos renews my respect for the power of steam!

They can be seen here coming out of the header toward the front flue sheet:

Boiler_delivery by Edmund, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

[Track fiddler]

I did edit good horror movie to bad horror movie. 

I wouldn't have ever made light of the subjective if I knew people died that day.  I wouldn't have thought people would die with everything blowing out the front.  

A terrible day that was.  Maybe someone could shift things to a more positive note here. 

 

That would probably be better.

 

 

TF

[BigDaddy]

Those are not hoses, they are flue tubes, blown out.  More pictures here

Death by steam scalding is not on my bucket list.  Mark Twain's brother died in a river boat boiler explosion.

[Track fiddler]

Mark,  I liked the Proto Heritage 2-10-2 chuff session on your layout and you looked rather cool hanging out the cab of the Combres and Toltec.  How many years ago was that?

Charles,  I have never seen a picture like that in my life.  It looks like a really bad horror movie.  I would call it Return of the Octopus Big Boy  I never knew Steamers had a bunch of hoses in them.

dti406,  You were lucky enough to brush paths with the Nickel Plate 765 on your way to work.  I bet you were late  I could never be so lucky but I got my ears and eyes open.

Kevin,   I wanted to go to the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum when I was in Jackson Tennessee in 2018.  It was 250 miles away and I guess I didn't plan my trip right.  I will plan a visit to Chattanooga on my next Southern winter trip and plan to stop in Florida on that trip as well

Ulrich,  A 3.3 grade is a steep one.  I knew there was something about that 2T being so burly.  I like the DB class 042 Makado as well.  That thing looks great coming down the tracks!

Selector,  That #7 Alberni Pacific sister sure looks great.  They sure did a great job on her.  

George looks like a Kind Spoken Man.  I get that from his photograph.  What a great memory, He gave you a ride in number seven

 

Well like I said before, things seem to happen in groups of two or three.  My favorite Little House on the prairie was on tonight.  "Runaway Caboose".

They caught the Caboose going backwards just in time on the steep grade and the kids were okay... again.

 

Sierra #3.  Clint Eastwood's favorite steamer. 

Sierra number 3 is "like a treasured old friend" he quoted.  He used #3 in Pale Rider my favorite Eastwood movie.

 

 

TF

[selector]

A sister locomotive to the derelict at Telegraph Cove, one that was rebuilt, is #7 of the Alberni Pacific Railway.  Here it is, getting filled, on the ready track in front of its shelter in June, 2005.

I would like to pay my respects to the man who rebuilt it 20 years ago, and who repaired it after a piston fracture in 2009.  George Williamson, who died 30 months ago, was trained in Belfast as a mechanical engineer.  He retired and took on this project, and granted me a short cab ride in June of 2005.  George was an accomplished railway artist; I have two prints of his.

 

[Tinplate Toddler]

From my early days as a rail fan.

Taken in 1971 on the mainline between Muenster and Emden. A local freight headed by a DB class 042 oil burning Mikado from the late 1930s, rebuilt in the 1950s with a new boiler and oil firing. This line was electrified a couple of years later, putting an end to steam traction in northern Germany.

[SeeYou190]

A consolidation on the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum in Chattanooga.

-Kevin

[dti406]

Track fiddler

 

 

 

Ricky, Ed, Wayne. There sure seems to be a lot of popularity here with Nickel Plate 765 and I can see why.  

 

 

TF

 

A couple of years ago I was going to work, and came upon the following engine!

I followed it for about 10 miles as the track parrallels Riverview Road all the way down into Akron, and goes right past my old office.

[Trainman440]

When a Big Boy 4005 enters a siding at 50 mph:

Sad day...

Some people didn't know that a Big Boy ever had an accident. 

An epic and haunting shot of a boiler explosion of C&O T1 3020.

I don't mean to be a downer, but I think accident shots are truly unique. 

On a brighter note, I love the look of the SP streamlined look! Heres a P-10 that I havent painted yet:

Charles

[Pruitt]

Here's a Proto Heritage 2-10-2 doing track checking duty:

And me in the cab on the Cumbres & Toltec:

[Tinplate Toddler]

Track fiddler

Ulrich, The 2-10-2T,s remind me of a Burly Bulldog built of muscle. I would have to agree he appears to be quite the chunky Beast

They are designed to tackle a 3.3% grade.

[Track fiddler]

Good morning

Sure is a lot of great photos here!  I really enjoy the model shots as well.  Ed, I don't know how you dubbed that steam into the photos of the Bachmann B-O EM1 but it sure looks cool.

Henry, I watched a lot of videos of the Durango Silverton going through Colorado and would love to experience that one day.

Ricky, Ed, Wayne. There sure seems to be a lot of popularity here with Nickel Plate 765 and I can see why.  Loved the story Wayne.  I have a similar story as my brother and I chased the Union Pacific Challenger 3985 up to Jamestown Minnesota.  It first stopped at Shakopee Minnesota two blocks East of Rahr, the largest malt faculty in the US.  This grain elevator faculty supplies enough malt for 11 billion cans of beer a year.

I wish I had images of the Challenger, I only have framed pictures.  Similar to your story Wayne, the people were too close to the line and the engineer blew steam out the sides of the locomotive, it definitely shewed the people away as we laughed.

L. Zhou.  I did not know that bit of history after World War II and enjoyed the photograph.

I'm sure the sawmill switcher, Vancouver Island was really something at one time Selector.

Brent,  I liked your model of 2861 that barely fit on the turntable like the prototypical one.

Ulrich,  The 2-10-2T,s remind me of a Burly Bulldog built of muscle.  I would have to agree he appears to be quite the chunky Beast

 

Union Pacific 4014 Big Boy St. Paul, Minnesota Spring 2019

 

If I didn't comment on anyone's post, it doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it  Thanks for posting.

 

 

TF

 

[Tinplate Toddler]

oldline1

I don't remember where they ran.

They still run - on some 750mm narrow gauge lines in the state of Saxony (southeastern Germany) and on the island of Rugen. The lines are regular railroads, used not only by tourists, but many local folks for their daily commute.

There s also a 1,000mm 2-10-2 built in the earyl 1950s, still in service on the Harz Mountain Railway.

 

 

[oldline1]

Ulrich,

Thanks for those shots of the 2-10-2T's. I love those chunky critters. There was a great video at one time on youtube with them complete with actual sounds and some umm-pah music. I don't remember where they ran. Cool to watch them.

oldline1

[gmpullman]

Before the reign of 765 there was the 759 of Golden Spike Centennial fame:

759_CUT_5-4-69 by Edmund, on Flickr

Here she is at her rededication in Conneaut, Ohio prior to her maiden voyage after rebuilding in September of 1968:

NKP_759 by Edmund, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

[L. Zhou]

A China Railways KD7 at rest at Shanghai, around 1985, the picture was taken by Johnather Such. The KD7s were built in America by Baldwin, Lima and Alco and were sent to China a year after World War Two ended, as aid.

Update: There we go, the picture showed up!

[doctorwayne]

Thanks, Rick, I had forgotten this one until you posted your shot...

Three of us chased this locomotive quite extensively, but the view above, in New Brighton, PA. was especially memorable.
When we drove into town, there was a very large crowd gathered near a sweeping curve, and with a multitude of mainline tracks (at least four).  However, there were a lot of people on the various tracks, hoping, I guess, to get photos minus the crowd.

We drove on a little further, and found a small trackside park, with only a few other foamers there, none of them on or near railroad property.

As the loco approached the curve, it began to smoke heavily, with the whistle blowing repeatedly in an effort to get everyone off the tracks.  While I'm not a fan of the heavy smoke-effects, I do understand that many expect it.

However, as the loco neared the crowd, the smoke "mysteriously" settled onto the lot of them.  I am positive that the fireman knew exactly how and when to cause that effect.

As soon as the engine passed that sooty bunch, the stack exhaust returned to vertical, and we all got good shots of the loco and smoke effects, but without the settling of it.
As the locomotive moved past, many of us were laughing and the nod and wave from the fireman confirmed to me that he knew what he had done and was aware that we knew what he had done, too.

All three of us lived and/or worked around trains, and we always respect the dangers when around the tracks, whether there are crowds or not.  I think that a few other folks got the message that day, too.

Wayne

[ricktrains4824]

Let's go the other direction....

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765 Rolling through Altoona station a few years back.

[BigDaddy]

Well if we are going in that direction.....ran when parked at Strasburg