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What do you miss most from classic issues of Model Railroader Magazine

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Posted by Mister Mikado on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 9:22 PM

Enzoamps

Been reading MR for 60 years or so.  I would save my allowance and buy a new Athearn rubber band drive loco, and the first thing I looked at each issue was the Pacific Fast Mail ad on the rear cover.  MY cheap litttle engines were all I could afford, and here were these wonderful brass models I knew I could never afford.

But I read it cover to cover, tiny ads and all.   And those big two page warehouse listings, I read each item, thinking how it might work on my layout.

 

You bet! Those old AHC warehouse ads that went on for pages were chock full of every train item you could imagine. They supplied a young mind's planning and dreaming on a tiny allowance.

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Posted by ACRR46 on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 11:15 PM

This may sound weird but when I traveled for business around the country I always brought  along the latest copy of MR.  Why? Because I always had free time in the evening and I would look for the nearest hobby shops from my hotel, based on the listings in the back of each issue.  It made it fun to explore what each shop stocked.  I bought a lot of Blue box kits in my travels.  Always liked viewing the store model rr displays and sometimes club layouts as well.

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:41 AM

Remember Cheap Hobbies ? They committed mail fraud and went to jail. Remembering sending notice to MR about them before they were prosicuted, they said they would pull the ads if they were doing things illegal. Should have kept my notification of court procedings from the attorney general of whatever state they were homed in as a memento because I knew I would never see my $200 again.

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Posted by jdlowe on Thursday, July 11, 2019 7:44 PM

There have been a few writers over the years that I’ve quite admired whose presence I miss.
 
George Allen: I’ve always admired the style and approach he used to present the construction of the Tuxedo Junction layout he built with Ernie Huebner. His short-lived 50,000 Spikes series was great too.
 
E. L. Moore: Great story teller, and I loved his way of getting the most from the least  with admirable results. Always could be counted on for a fun project that I felt I could build.
 
D. Derek Verner: He pushed the boundaries of what could be done, but I always came away from his stories with a feeling that I could do them too. His Lido Theater comes to mind.
 
Bill Schopp: Although in his later years he was at RMC, he was featured now and then in MR. He even showed up once in a most excellent Tuxedo Junction story with George Allen. He was some sort of mad scientist / renaissance man of model railroading.
 
Robert E. Gilbert: Maybe he was more of a Model Trains writer when Kalmbach owned it, but his stories seemed full of interesting things. I remember a story called ‘A changeable railroad’ that appeared in MR in the sixties – a fascinating project.
 
Malcolm Furlow: The San Juan Central series was excellent.
 
Ben King: Loved his photography. He even wrote an article on how to build a panoramic (?) camera. I never thought I could emulate his work, but it was highly inspirational.
 
Linn Westcott: Ok, he was MR’s legendary editor, but he was their best writer in that he was a skilled modeller, creative, and forward thinking.
 
Raymond Frankenberger: I’m going to assume Kalmbach’s Model Trains fits in the umbrella, so I’ll say Raymond Frankenberger does too since he appeared there a lot. Interesting projects and great presentation style.
 
No doubt there’s more, but these writers come readily to mind.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:07 PM

Ben King was always amazing.

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I could never do what he has done.

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-Kevin

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Posted by Track fiddler on Thursday, July 11, 2019 8:28 PM

Sewell.

Always took an interest in articles, modelers, pictures and stories of that past Railroad owned Town.

TF

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Posted by BNSF UP and others modeler on Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:17 PM

Having been in the hobby for only 5 or 6 years, the only reason that I can contribute this thread is because I have been lucky enough to be given both older or modern issues, or else found them for dirt cheap. I don't even have a subscription! (Although I did sign up for a super good rate for a years worth of magazines in June).

I may be playing devil's advocate here, but I have actually been pleasantly suprised when comparing mid 80's, 90's, and early 2000's magazines with the modern ones. They pulled out many of the things that bugged me about the older magazines, such as pages and pages of ads, black and white pictures, and grainy pictures. Now, we have short, concise magazines with a good mix of product reviews, layout tours, DCC, painting, or other project guides, and quality images that I can often glean ideas or techniques from. Just what I like.

If there is anything I DO wish they still had in the magazine, it would be more scale drawings of railcars and photo contests. Maybe this thread is taken seriously by the magazine producers and we get some more of the old stuff back? Who knows...

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Posted by barrok on Saturday, July 13, 2019 8:55 PM

A railroad you can model and the scratchbuilding articles.

 

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Posted by NittanyLion on Saturday, July 13, 2019 9:07 PM

A Railroad You Can Model still shows up as a feature in MRP, so it isn't completely gone like Paint Shop or Student Fare. 

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Saturday, July 13, 2019 9:26 PM

BNSF UP and others modeler

Having been in the hobby for only 5 or 6 years, the only reason that I can contribute this thread is because I have been lucky enough to be given both older or modern issues, or else found them for dirt cheap. I don't even have a subscription! (Although I did sign up for a super good rate for a years worth of magazines in June).

I may be playing devil's advocate here, but I have actually been pleasantly suprised when comparing mid 80's, 90's, and early 2000's magazines with the modern ones. They pulled out many of the things that bugged me about the older magazines, such as pages and pages of ads, black and white pictures, and grainy pictures. Now, we have short, concise magazines with a good mix of product reviews, layout tours, DCC, painting, or other project guides, and quality images that I can often glean ideas or techniques from. Just what I like.

If there is anything I DO wish they still had in the magazine, it would be more scale drawings of railcars and photo contests. Maybe this thread is taken seriously by the magazine producers and we get some more of the old stuff back? Who knows...

Just my HO andMy 2 Cents

 

OK, I don't know how old you are, but not everything can, or even should, be reduced to a "short concise" soundbite.........

Back in the day, printing color photography was expensive, and black and wihte photography was still common for lots of stuff.

There was no internet, so those pages of ads were how manufacturers comunicated with customers in between the printing of anual catalogs........

But what would I know, I was running a train department in a hobby shop at age 20 in 1977......

And I have every copy of Model Railroader from about 1960 to now.........

Sheldon 

    

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Posted by BRAKIE on Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:07 AM

SeeYou190

Ben King was always amazing.

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I could never do what he has done.

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-Kevin

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Indeed.. His layout  is intact in a museum in Greenville,Ohio. A tribute to a true master modeler. 

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Posted by Doughless on Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:52 AM

Model Railroad Planning is geared more towards why I would by regular MR, but its only published annually.  I haven't missed a copy of MRP, but my purchasing of MR has gotten spotty.  

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Posted by Uncle_Bob on Sunday, July 14, 2019 10:11 AM

BNSF UP and others modeler

Having been in the hobby for only 5 or 6 years, the only reason that I can contribute this thread is because I have been lucky enough to be given both older or modern issues, or else found them for dirt cheap. I don't even have a subscription! (Although I did sign up for a super good rate for a years worth of magazines in June).

I may be playing devil's advocate here, but I have actually been pleasantly suprised when comparing mid 80's, 90's, and early 2000's magazines with the modern ones. They pulled out many of the things that bugged me about the older magazines, such as pages and pages of ads, black and white pictures, and grainy pictures. Now, we have short, concise magazines with a good mix of product reviews, layout tours, DCC, painting, or other project guides, and quality images that I can often glean ideas or techniques from. Just what I like.

If there is anything I DO wish they still had in the magazine, it would be more scale drawings of railcars and photo contests. Maybe this thread is taken seriously by the magazine producers and we get some more of the old stuff back? Who knows...

Just my HO andMy 2 Cents

 

Those ads that you're glad are gone paid Kalmbach's bills.  Without money coming in, they can't pay staff, advertise, buy paper and ink for magazines, etc.  Without these things, the publisher fails, their magazines cease production, and we end up with nothing but the past.  Please remember that.

I miss Paint Shop and the Railroad You Can Model articles, as well as the longer, more descriptive articles that ran in the '70 and '80s.  I also miss the big ads that used to run here, as you may have guessed: Standard Hobby Supply, Hobbies for Men (THAT would go over well these days!), America's Hobby Center, Long's Drug Store, that other one in the Seattle area, Train Station something-or-other, and the brass ads (including Don's Train Depot).  They gave people ideas about what was available and what they could aspire to buy someday -- and maybe their dream layouts would appear in MR.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:36 PM

BRAKIE
Indeed.. His layout is intact in a museum in Greenville,Ohio. A tribute to a true master modeler.

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No kidding! I need to make sure I see that next time I am in Ohio.

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Thank you for that news.

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Posted by BNSF UP and others modeler on Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:22 PM

Uncle_Bob
 Those ads that you're glad are gone paid Kalmbach's bills.  Without money coming in, they can't pay staff, advertise, buy paper and ink for magazines, etc.  Without these things, the publisher fails, their magazines cease production, and we end up with nothing but the past.  Please remember that.

 

I understand. I am happy with the reduction of ads, which does not mean total elimination is demanded. They still do have some ads, which definitely helps MRR. Those don't bug me (just my wallet). Also, there is nothing wrong with being happy and positive with the changes made in the magazine, is there?Laugh

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Posted by BigDaddy on Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:03 PM

I don't have solid memories of the old MR in the mid to late 80's.  My job left me sleep deprived most of the time.   It seem to me there were a lot more rolling stock produced for various MR clubs.

It wasn't casual Friday in the old model railroading magazines.

I don't think I will be sent back to moderation if I mention a site that has defunct model railroad magazines.  There are many photos of model railroaders in coat and tie or tie and vest.  Were there blue color model railroaders in the 30's and 40's or were they all bankers and lawyers?

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:30 PM

BNSF UP and others modeler
They pulled out many of the things that bugged me about the older magazines, such as pages and pages of ads

Those ads were what helped me get started.  I was in Germany (1971, in the army) when I started in this hobby.  Those ads really helped me find out what was available.  Plus I ordered from those ads for 2 1/2 years until I returned to the U.S. 

Frankly, I looked forward to the ads as much as they rest of the magazine - still do.  Like others have mentioned, I loved the AHC ads.

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Posted by up831 on Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:40 PM

Upon reflection, I have to confess I really miss Model Trains Magazine.  Now, perhaps it’s just a nostalgia thing, or maybe it just appealed to my simplistic mind, or maybe I don’t want too much reality in my models and modeling, but prefer the more “perfect world” ideal.  Or maybe it was because I was a kid and the content was more accessible to me.  For whatever reason(s), I loved the magazine including the AHC ads!  

As for the scale drawings, Alan J Brewster and I believe Harold Russell did most of those.  I always wondered how that was arranged.  Were these guys contracted?  I don’t think they were Kalmbach employees.  Were they freelancers and just drew a piece of equipment and submitted it?  I’m curious.

Less is more,...more or less!

Jim (with a nod to Mies Van Der Rohe)

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