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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, January 12, 2019 7:43 PM

NWP SWP
Also scrapping the car would be quite blasphemous,

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Steven, You literally here have no idea what you are talking about. You cannot even imagine the work that needs to be done on the brakes and suspension.

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And... say you do get it perfect... you still have an outdated, unsafe, miserable car. Get a new V6 mustang convertable... they are affordable, and they are safe. Oh, and girls love them!

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A red convertible can help you on that quest for those kids you want.

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Your kids are going to be driven around by their autonomous hotels on wheels.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, January 12, 2019 7:41 PM

Howdy .... 

Everybody: Is anyone planning to go to the 150th anniversary of the Golden Spike in Utah on May 10?  I am 

Speaking of Texas, I am thinking of Texas Type steam locomotives. .... 2-10-4 .... They were capable of hauling heavy freight trains. ... CB&Q had them, and they were used for hauling coal from Southern Illinois coal fields. (Maybe, they should be called Illinois Type locomotives. LOL) 

Ken .... That is a lot of snow. ..... Here we have rain. 

NWP-SWP .... An idea is to auction the old Mustang on Ebay.... YPossibly, you could get more money than scrap value. 

 Brent ... Thank you for posting the Houston freight yard video. .

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, January 12, 2019 6:47 PM

I got interrupted on my last post.

The first restoration my friend did was on a Bronco around 1980. He dismantled it and welded and welded until every bit of rust was gone. He had a good job and bought all the tools he would need welders, painting equipment, didn't go cheap and he still has it all some 40 years later. 

His first paint job was on this Bronco he had spent months on and it was looking like new again. The West Coast can have some pretty high humidity days and he was told to get some dehumidifiers for his garage before he started painting. He didn't listen as his garage was warm and dry and he wasn't a guy that understood basic climatology. Laugh The humidity level was important in the paint booth (his Garage)

The Bronco came off the rebuild line and looked incredible after the two years he had spent on it. A shiny red sports model with new chrome trim recovered seats, it was like new, even had a new soft top sewn up at a custom place. 18 Months later the rust was coming through his new paint. Not a big book reader my friend, if he had been he would have read about humidity in the paint shop. He now has a shop full of books and his glasses on his head for easy access to look in the books. He still shakes his head when we talk about that first Bronco, he learned a tough expensive (time-wise) lesson.

Another Bronco he custom built from the ground up. I went down to Las Vegas with him to haul back a fiberglass tubbed out body that he built into an awesome looking mud runner. The cost of just going down to get the thing was a lot. Meals, hotels cost of moving all that metal up and down the interstate. The fiberglass body cost was jaw-dropping. I think he got 10% back on what he spent after he kept it a few years. Loves his hobby but it cost money.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Saturday, January 12, 2019 6:42 PM

My goal isn't to sell the car, my goal is to have a car to pass on to my children, well when I have children.

Also scrapping the car would be quite blasphemous, it has some rust but it nowhere near the worst one I've ever seen, especially for a 50 year old car.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, January 12, 2019 6:08 PM

Calico lobsters for everyone.  Price may be a problem

https://www.capitalgazette.com/news/environment/bs-md-calico-lobster-20190112-story.html

And for desert Croatian Nut Roll.  Cheaper than a one in 30 million lobster.  Nut Rolls, I think reach from the Balkans to Scandanvia.  Ulrich do you know these?

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, January 12, 2019 5:51 PM

SeeYou190
For half of what it will cost you to get that heap road ready, you can buy one that someone else already wasted all their money on.

I agree 100% and so would my friends that do it for a hobby. It is like owning a boat you pay biggly to enjoy restoring them. My one friend has done several of the older Bronco's, gets half back on average. I buy model trains I might get 20% back on a good day. 

 

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Posted by NWP SWP on Saturday, January 12, 2019 5:46 PM

SeeYou190

 

 
NWP SWP
I was wondering if I could get some pointers on where to start.

 

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Scrap it.

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For half of what it will cost you to get that heap road ready, you can buy one that someone else already wasted all their money on.

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You have no idea, zero, what you are getting into.

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Well aren't you a ray of sunshine...

Ken, I look forward to your wisdom.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, January 12, 2019 5:26 PM

NWP SWP
I was wondering if I could get some pointers on where to start.

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Scrap it.

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For half of what it will cost you to get that heap road ready, you can buy one that someone else already wasted all their money on.

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You have no idea, zero, what you are getting into.

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-Kevin

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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, January 12, 2019 3:59 PM

 Afternoon Diners

 Flo, the gang and I will have a Beer please!

 Steven Had a 400 word post going on for you and then Poof, I hit the wrong dang button! Bang Head I will make another one in words and then post it. Far as parts you may need try this company.

 https://www.rockauto.com/

 There prices are good and so far no problems with there parts!

 Winter is here in Maryville ILL I am guessing we got 6 to 8 inches. Roads are clear and I had no problems going any where. Strangely the Gerocery Store where empty but still had plenty of Milk, Eggs and Bread?

 Later, Ken

 

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Saturday, January 12, 2019 3:58 PM

That would be the aforementioned former SP Englewood yard ( where we had the strike at the begining of the tour)

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, January 12, 2019 12:57 PM

Good morning from the sunny West Coast.

Jan I am so sorry for your loss. I hope I never have to go through losing a child, I can't imagine.

The boss is down in Seattle with my sister this weekend at a dog show, so I am looking after the herd of dogs along with my daughter. We have a new puppy that has been sired by a dog that died about 15 years ago. We call them pupcycles. This sire was a famous champion my wife owned and as with many of her really great muts, she keeps frozen sperm for future use. 

I think a long walk is in order today, maybe I'll take a dog and do the 10k one today. I have had this lousy virus for the last three weeks and have not been working out as a result. I am up 7 pounds which I am not worried about, however, the energy level is down as a result of being a deadbeat. 

Steven, I hate working on cars, however, two of my friends restore them and I have helped often in the past. Like anything you should do lots of reading on the subject before you start. There is nothing like educating yourself. The process is important and will save you a lot of money and frustration if done right.

An example would be ( this is how my friends do it) Taking right fender off.

Take bolts out in order front to back laying them on bench in order of removal.

If the bolts are all the same put them in a ziplock and label the bag. If the bolts are different lengths/size each one has to be labeled as to where it came out. Take photos of everything along the way. It is to be a slow methodical process and the impatient will not have an enjoyable time down the road. My friends will tell you from their own experience of their youth that if you don't have the means to put it back together, don't take it apart until you do. 

Both my friends have higher than average paying jobs and will tell you a proper restoration will cost thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours. So unless you have finished your education have a good job, and decided not to get married ( like myself and my two friends did) we were all around forty by the time we got married. In the end, though, I guess it boils down to what you mean by restoration. Do some reading on how much a restoration cost.

The kid got his marks back for his first term while home ended up with three 100%s, one 97% and one 93% He is taking Law and economics and will get degrees in both. He is also taking media which covers a broad range of subjects such as TV, Movies, video games, and advertising. On his way to be a movie mogul, I guess. We are pretty proud of his effort so far and we are happy that he changed direction, once he realized international affairs would not be as rewarding as he thought.

I have only flown through Texas (many a time) on the way to somewhere but never stopped. I think the wife and I will get there in the next couple of years now the daughter will be in University next fall. Travel will be at our leisure now for the most part. I have been in more States than I haven't been in, including Puerto Rico and maybe some other territories. I have been known to forget that I have been some places and have been reminded by the Wife that I was there. HMMMM.Hmm

Found this video of the Houston yard.

Got my Kadee washers and coupler height gauge so I have to start leveling up the Rapido coaches in anticipation of my Royal Hudsons arriving. Jason post photo's and video's on various Facebook pages of the progress. The only fault I have found with the Rapido coaches is the earlier ones couplers are way lower than the rest of them. I got three different sizes of washers so hopefully, all will be right in my Rapido universe before long.Laugh

Have an acquaintance that really wants to buy our house and the wife and I want to move, but not until the Daughter is out of school in June. We will see how things unfold as I don't think they can wait that long.

Time for bacon and eggs and then I will venture into the woods for three or four hours and beat off the wildlife. There was a cougar warning last time out, haven't heard any more about it, so I guess he was passing through. I have a mini bear spray can that I may take along just in case. I use to take a small bottle when hiking in the backcountry so I have a few sitting around, I hope it still works.Laugh

All the best to all.

 

 

 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, January 12, 2019 8:47 AM

BigDaddy
I am at a loss to find a Texas rail webcam this morning, so virtural railfan's Missouri webcam will have to do

I have a Railstream account, took forever to log in, which is out of the norm, and their Saginaw TX camera shows no snow, and blue skys, but their Rosenberg cam seems totally out of time. (still dark w/ snow and rain)

VR's KC camera is working, West looks good, but the East cam is snow covered. Wife's family is in KC, they say they are getting about 12".  Doesn't look like it on the cams.

I'm about 15 miles north of the WI/IL border, and we are not suppose to get anything but a few flurries.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, January 12, 2019 8:21 AM

I am at a loss to find a Texas rail webcam this morning, so virtural railfan's Missouri webcam will have to do.  We are supposed to get our snow at 4pm and we might get 4". 

Sheldon pointed out in another thread that the Baltimore Society of Model Engineers has lost their lease.  It is one of the oldest MR clubs in the country.  Next Sunday is their last open house and I would almost suggest that MRVP make a field trip to Baltimore, except I no longer consider that part of Baltimore safe.

Oddly, my grandmother used to take me by bus shopping to big department stores and the bus stop had to be withing a half a block of the club and I never knew.  It was an upscale area then.  Now people get shot waiting for the bus, literally a block away from where we got off.  The morning news is a family attacked by 12 squeege kids.  No more  Baltimore for me.

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Saturday, January 12, 2019 8:02 AM

Morning all. 

That K4 Live steamer is a work of art.  

Unfortunately I know nothing of rebuilding cars, so I cannot be of any advice there. 

Ive gotten some leads for jobs, But some of my friends are being annoying sbout this. They keep saying "take the first job, no matter the distance or pay".  Easy for them to say, since they don't have a house to  take care of. Im being particular for what I'm looking-FT and at leadt 10 an hour.  ive also got undiagnosed anxiety, so flex schedules and non structured enviromentd arent good for me. I need stability so I can find finslly grt around to scheduling the therapist visits I need.  

anyway, I will hopefully be moving into yhe house by February.  So that's something  be thankful for. My club is getting ready for our train show st the end of the month, hopefully the weather keeps cooperating with us like it always has. 

I soldered all leads for my module up.... let's hope it works.  

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, January 12, 2019 7:45 AM

Hello? Saturday morning and no donuts? well, at least Brunhilda has the coffee steaming.

Speaking of steaming, here's a video made a few years ago at the Pennsylvania Live Steamers of a beautiful K4 (1361) and a string of equally beautiful heavyweight cars in Tuscan Red:

Thankfully, the camera work is steady and the action moves along.

Enjoy, Ed

 

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Friday, January 11, 2019 10:02 PM

Jan - You have my deepest condolences. So sorry you and your family are going through this.

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, January 11, 2019 9:42 PM

NWP SWP
I know you guys have messed around with old cars so I was wondering if I could get some pointers on where to start.

Hi Steven:

I'm not sure if you are referring to me, but I have done my share of work on my own cars.

The first piece of advice that I would give is to do a budget, and then break that budget down into affordable bits. Obviously you don't have $50,000 to drop on the car next week so figure out what you can afford to do now.

The second bit of advice is to start from the very beginning and not cut any corners. That means stripping the car to the point where there is nothing attached that isn't welded in place. Then look at the stuff that is welded in place to see what needs to be fixed. Have a professional measure everything to make sure nothing is bent or out of alignment. 

Don't fool yourself into thinking that any plastic or rubber mechanical parts are reusable. I can tell from the pictures that the front suspension bushings are shot.

Replace the springs! Springs wear out.

Don't buy poor quality replacement parts. I needed a pair of lower front fenders for my MGC. I got a set for a real steal - in other words they stole my money. The panels were useless.

Never give up! It may take you 20 years to do the job right, and you might have to leave it alone for months or years at a time, but don't sell it! I sold my MGC because I couldn't afford to repair it properly at the time (young family, big bills....etc.) I still kick my rear end for letting it go! It wouldn't have cost me anything to just let it sit in the garage, and we wouldn't have starved.

My 2 Cents

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Posted by NWP SWP on Friday, January 11, 2019 8:54 PM

Tomorrow I plan to pull the car out into the sun and get some more pictures of it to post here, TF, Ken and Dave (I think Dave's mentioned working on cars), I know you guys have messed around with old cars so I was wondering if I could get some pointers on where to start.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Friday, January 11, 2019 7:54 PM

Evening folks,

Jan, my condolences to you and your family.

Well I finally pulled by 'Stang out.

Steve

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, January 11, 2019 6:35 PM

Jan we are very sorry for you loss.  Life isn't fair.

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Friday, January 11, 2019 6:26 PM

Jan , 

Sorry to hear of your loss, condolences to you. 

 

Ken: the Bizzard has arrived here. Lucily I was able to avoid all the bread and milk. Getting pretty heavy snow at the moment. 

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Posted by cudaken on Friday, January 11, 2019 4:50 PM

 Eveing Diners

 Flo, give the gang an I a Beer please.

 Jan I am so sorry his time had came at such a young age. I hope the fact you knew is time was coming helped a little.

 Caboose Hobbies or what ever they called them selfs now days.

 Good News They can do the needed repairs on my PCM Y6b and PCM Big Boy! Big Smile

 Bad News They are not taken in any more HO scale repair job's for 2 months? ConfusedSigh Should asked if there is a waitting list I could get on.

 Fell again today at a Wallmart Market. This is the 3rd time I have fell in the last 4 weeks! This time no Beer was involved! Store was packed so people could buy the Needed Milk and Bread god forbid you don't have Milk and Bread! They normally mark walking hazards, in this case all long the front of the sidewalk was marked in red. On the side, well the side walk was just around 1" tall and not marked and I was distracted by a sign. Caught the lip of the crub and down I went! When I saw there was no way to catch my self I just went limp and rolled.

 Good thing the Army taught me how to fall! When got the new porpane bottle I pointed where I fell to the sales clerk. She said she will let managment know.

 Guess I still have strong bones. What would folks take to keep them strong?

 Looks Like The Blizzard is here! Whistling So far we had some sleet and just a tad of snow. Guess we will see, thank God we have Milk and Bread! LaughLaugh

 Trains are running great.  Later Ken

 

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Posted by howmus on Friday, January 11, 2019 4:30 PM

Jan,

My deepest sympathies to you and yours!  Yes, little in this life can be a hard as burying a child!  Do know you are in my thoughts and prayers at this difficult time!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, January 11, 2019 10:19 AM

Jan .... I just read your news..... Very sincere condolences to you.... Please know your friends in the Diner care. 

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Friday, January 11, 2019 7:21 AM

Jan, I'm so sorry for your loss. 

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, January 11, 2019 4:12 AM

herrinchoker
On Tuesday morning at 03:17 my #1 stepson crossed to the other side. I was able to give him his last sponge bath, and tell him that I loved him one last time. I trust he is with his Mother now. July the 15th. I lost #3 stepson. It is unfair we should have to bury our children. Ed was 50, Mike just turned 60 on 12/17/18. 

Jan,

Words are so inadequate at a time like this, but you and your wife have our deepest sympathies. Burying a child is a truly devastating experience. Dianne and I know how hard it is. Burying two in such a short period of time is almost incomprehensible.

The only comfort that I can offer you is, at least in our experience, that the grief will dissipate somewhat over time, and you will be able to get on with your lives just as your loved ones would want you to do. They know that you will never forget them.

Dave

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, January 11, 2019 3:56 AM

cudaken
Called one called Critter Control and spoke with John. He has a flat rate of $500.00 no matter how many trips he has to make. He told me 10 visits is normal. It all so incudes patching where the critters are getting with in reason. Price sounds fair, what do you folks think?

$500.00 for one trip isn't out of line when you consider the operating expenses involved. It costs him somewhere around $130.00 just to turn the ignition key off in your driveway. If he can get the varmits out in one trip consider yourself to be very lucky. If it takes two trips he is barely breaking even. If it takes 10 trips he has lost his shirt!

My 2 Cents

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, January 11, 2019 3:41 AM

herrinchoker
On Tuesday morning at 03:17 my #1 stepson crossed to the other side.   It is unfair we should have to bury our children.

My sincere condolences to you and your loved ones, Jan.

Regards, Ed

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Posted by herrinchoker on Friday, January 11, 2019 3:35 AM

On Tuesday morning at 03:17 my #1 stepson crossed to the other side. I was able to give him his last sponge bath, and tell him that I loved him one last time. I trust he is with his Mother now. July the 15th. I lost #3 stepson. It is unfair we should have to bury our children. Ed was 50, Mike just turned 60 on 12/17/18. 

Ulrich, you and Petra are in our prayers. Perhaps if more had a taste of fear in their lives their view of the world would perhaps change.

Best to all, prayers for those in need

Jan

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Thursday, January 10, 2019 8:41 PM

Meanwhile, back in Texas.... The Katy Railroad had a very attractive paint scheme on it Alco PA1's . It looked perfect hauling the Texas Special. 

GARRY

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