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Wonder what the next MR Project RR Should Be?

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, December 12, 2018 9:38 PM

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There is so much of a model railroading world outside of the Americas, but I guess that only few US/Canadian modelers would take an interest in participating in the making of a "foreign" layout.

I agree with Ulrich on this one. The history of the Hejaz Railroad is absolutely fascinating, hard to stop reading about it once you start. It featured so much German equipment that was "kitbashed" to deal with the desert sand that the MRR staff would be given a good challenge to come up with decent looking stuff.

Chinese model railroading is huge. An international sidetrack would be most welcome in my book.

http://www.chinesemodeltrains.com/encyclopedia_brand.html 

In two years Asians will make up 24% of the population of Canada. If MRR expanded on what it covers, it might pick up more subscribers. I am always am interested in what the other guy is doing.Cowboy

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Posted by Lonehawk on Wednesday, December 12, 2018 9:00 PM

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I cannot remember the last time a Model Railroader project layout had steam power.

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Posted by Harrison on Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:59 PM

SeeYou190

 

 
nw2
I hope it's a urban/ industrial from the 70s, that's right no steam

 

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I cannot remember the last time a Model Railroader project layout had steam power.

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The 2014 project "rice harbor" was steam, set in the 1930's.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:09 PM

nw2
I hope it's a urban/ industrial from the 70s, that's right no steam

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I cannot remember the last time a Model Railroader project layout had steam power.

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Posted by nw2 on Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:24 PM

I hope it's a urban/ industrial from the 70s,  that's right no steam

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Posted by xboxtravis7992 on Monday, December 10, 2018 9:49 PM

Tinplate Toddler

 

 
xboxtravis7992
I dunno a few other ideas, go international?

 

What a splendid idea!

There is so much of a model railroading world outside of the Americas, but I guess that only few US/Canadian modelers would take an interest in participating in the making of a "foreign" layout.

With streetcars becoming more popular in US and Canadian cities these days, how about a modern traction layout?

 

I am surprised the Siemmens S70 has not been mass produced in HO scale yet from what I have seen. So many cities run them now, I would assume there would be a market there. Its not like light rail excludes freight either, here in Utah on the UTA TRAX system after the light rail has shut down for the night, freight trains run 'under the wire' to serve industries after dark. It could make for an interesting layout, to run passenger operations during day, dim the lights, then start up freight services. 

Its just, light rail; especially modern light rail or DMU's is just either hard to find or pricey to get into. I tried finding some Stadler FLIRTs for HO scale, and all I could find were some 3D printed bodies on Shapeways. I don't want to plop down several hundred dollars on a few body shells and scratchbuild the rest, at least not now. Its strange to because the larger 'commuter' rail stuff is far more available, with the Bombardier bi-level coaches and Comet cars all in several popular paint schemes. Not to mention there are no real standards for any other 'fixed guideway/rail' transportation models such as monorails or peoplemovers. On my trip to Seattle last month I noticed the city's street car terminates just a half block away from the monorail depot, that would be an interesting 'rail' scene to recreate, but neither light rail or monorail stuff is out there unless your ready to scratchbuild like crazy. 

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Posted by Outsailing86 on Monday, December 10, 2018 6:13 PM

With the App, looking up the older magazines is borderline painful. Scrolling to find a magazine... nice. =-( 

 

on on the compute, mine logs out every 10-15 minutes. Kinda frustrating

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Posted by PED on Monday, December 10, 2018 4:28 PM

I really don't care what modular standard is used. My main objective was to demonstrate how a great layout can be built within the constraints of a modular standard. Might inspire a modeler with limited space to design a big dream layout for the future yet get started by building some of the modules now that can be accomodated within whatever limited space the modeler has.

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Posted by NittanyLion on Monday, December 10, 2018 12:17 PM

Tinplate Toddler

 

 
PED
I would be interested in seeing a modular layout that is compliant with the NMRA guidlines for modules yet shows all the creativity that the MR staff can fold into those constraints.

 

How well established are those standards among model railroasders? It seems to me that Freemo standards are much more popular.

 

NTrak is pretty universal in the US and most HO modular clubs I've seen are NMRA or derived from it. Freemo is fairly uncommon in the regions of the US that I'm familiar with. 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, December 10, 2018 11:31 AM

I just hope the next project has a custom roadname and the magazine includes decals for it so we can decorate our own freight cars for it.

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My favorite part of the Turtle Creek Central was the decals!

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Posted by NWP SWP on Monday, December 10, 2018 10:47 AM

Again a modular mountain layout would be cool. Ok so not in the Cascades, but perhaps Donner?

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Monday, December 10, 2018 9:29 AM

PED
I would be interested in seeing a modular layout that is compliant with the NMRA guidlines for modules yet shows all the creativity that the MR staff can fold into those constraints.

How well established are those standards among model railroasders? It seems to me that Freemo standards are much more popular.

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Posted by PED on Monday, December 10, 2018 9:12 AM

I would be interested in seeing a modular layout that is compliant with the NMRA guidlines for modules yet shows all the creativity that the MR staff can fold into those constraints. I mostly see a lot of flat round and round layouts at the train shows. I know the clubs have limitations but it would be nice to see a NMRA modular compliant layout that would knock your socks off yet still be very mobile.

I think this would appeal to modlers who have a decent size space to build a new layout in yet want to build it for mobility so it can be moved to their next house.

Could address issues such as how to mount structures for easy removal yet still look good when installed, different module shapes yet still NMRA compliant, lift out section for a walkway, timeless landscape to allow operating in almost any era, etc. 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, December 10, 2018 8:50 AM

Now if only I could access the digital archives to check out some of the past projects mentioned in this thread.

Seems to be on-again-off-again.  Bang Head

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Posted by Lonehawk on Monday, December 10, 2018 7:37 AM

Personally, I'd like to see something steam-era (pre-transition).  Maybe a short line rural or industrial layout.  Probably never happen though because the transition and modern eras seem to be the most popular among subscribers, and business-wise, it makes sense to keep them engaged.

And those MR guys really love their diesels. Wink

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:59 PM

 It's actually been done by a now-defunct hobby shop in Australia. Dave Jones from the EEVBlog has it now. Here's one of the videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWm7hMkytyI

It actually covers all of the movies with various scenes. I know there is another of his videos that shows some of it running. 

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Posted by tstage on Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:17 PM

A working version of the mine run from "Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom"...in Z-scale...including animated crocodiles.

https://tstage9.wixsite.com/nyc-modeling

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Posted by NittanyLion on Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:05 PM

The Cripple Creek Central will always have a special place in my heart. I loved the no plan organic development of it. I also loved when they violated the "no soldering" rule on a late article on the justification of "well you'll have to learn sometime."

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, December 9, 2018 2:53 PM

 Two I always wanted to build were the Kinnikinnick from the 70's (I think that might have been the first project railroad that Russ Larson worked on), and Dave Frary's PRR Middle Division from 1993. 

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Posted by Outsailing86 on Sunday, December 9, 2018 11:12 AM

I was curious if they are due for a “let’s build a layout at David‘s house” aka the crystal lake series (?)

 

whats everyones top 5 project layouts? 

Virginian with Thin Branch (not going to lie, gave this a lot of thought) 

Black River Junction

Canadian Canyons

Wisconsin Central from the mid 90’s

Mohawk Valley from the early 90’s 

 

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, December 9, 2018 11:02 AM

 You've pretty much described Joe Fugate's layout. Doubt MR would be interested in duplicating another magazine's work.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Sunday, December 9, 2018 9:43 AM

I'd like to see something like SP in the Cascades or Sierra Nevadas in the 70s, they could do it in modules, its take some creativity to hide the joints in the scenery but a nice 5x15 layout would be cool.

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Posted by angelob6660 on Sunday, December 9, 2018 9:12 AM

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What are the size limitations of a project layout?

 

It has to be sized to get it out the door of their workshop.

 

And their elevator. Let's not forget placing it in their van. The Canadian Canyons needs to transported in a bigger van due to its height.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Sunday, December 9, 2018 1:37 AM

xboxtravis7992
I dunno a few other ideas, go international?

What a splendid idea!

There is so much of a model railroading world outside of the Americas, but I guess that only few US/Canadian modelers would take an interest in participating in the making of a "foreign" layout.

With streetcars becoming more popular in US and Canadian cities these days, how about a modern traction layout?

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Posted by maxman on Saturday, December 8, 2018 10:43 PM

Outsailing86
What are the size limitations of a project layout?

It has to be sized to get it out the door of their workshop.

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Posted by xboxtravis7992 on Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:02 PM

I am surprised I haven't seen any recent attempts to do a model railroad set in the Pacific Northwest. My recent trip up there for Thanksgiving sure has the area on my mind a lot lately.

I dunno a few other ideas, go international? I thought that OO Scale layout was a highlight of this year's articles, and would love to see more of that. It would make for an interesting story if it is prototypical, just how would a group of American modeler's go about recreating a prototype scene from an ocean away?

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Posted by Outsailing86 on Saturday, December 8, 2018 3:29 PM

What are the size limitations of a project layout? island plans are great, but shelf and around the walls are more realistic for a train room. 

One idea might be a commuter layout, maybe a modern take of those Mike Welch plans? But I am biased to a Chicago track plan. 

the background, planning, LDE, compression, operations, and design parameters might be the best value. Applying roadbed and building benchwork might be a little redundant. 

After being a armchair modeler for years, the Operating the Virginian video inspired me to build a railroad. 

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Posted by jmbjmb on Wednesday, November 21, 2018 4:57 PM

I recall seeing picture of the highway that went in front of my childhood home being constructed exactly  how you described.  Tiny trains on something like 15 or 18 inch gauge track.  Horse drawn drag pans and graders.

 

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Posted by Harrison on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 4:50 PM

Steven Otte

Canadian Canyons may be already familiar to MRVP subscribers, but we'll be bringing it to Model Railroader magazine subscribers starting in the January 2019 issue. The project for 2020 is an O scale (Proto:48) layout built by MR contributing editor and Model Railroad Planning editor Tony Koester. We're just beginning discussion of our project for 2021. All we can tell you for sure at this point is it will be HO scale. We're looking at what new structure, scenery, and rolling stock products will be coming out in the next year to help guide our choice of prototype, era, and setting.

 

Just an idea, you could do the D&H in Plattsburgh or Mecanicville NY in the early 80's, interesting track, interesting industries, interesting power.

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