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Do you prefer noise or quiet?
Posted by robert sylvester on Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:24 AM

CoffeeZzz Early this morning, down in the  railroad room, around 3:30 A.M., I was just sitting there in a relaxed mood while a train was making its way around the rails, making all of the sounds that engines can do when I decided to take the sound engine off the tracks and replace it two older Stewart units in the Southern green and white scheme and placed them in front of the consist of stream lined passenger coaches, no sound unit.

I gave it some power and the train began to leave the station. With my cup of coffee in hand I leaned back in the chair and listened. All I could hear was the clickity clack of the wheels passing over the rail joints, no engine sound. I sipped my coffee and just listened. The Stewarts are so quiet, not even a hum. As the train made its way through the scenery I realized, "this is nice".

So, tomorrow morning I might just do the same thing, watch a beautiful train making its way from town to town in peace and serenity. I need that sometimes, with a good cup of coffee, just sitting back in peace and quiet. That's the beauty of this hobby, you can have noise or just quiet, it's a beautiful thing.

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Posted by CGW121 on Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:47 AM

I prefer quiet, the only sound being the sound of the wheels on the rails, no music or any other noise.

 

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Posted by mobilman44 on Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:53 AM

Ha, I like it both ways...........   While the sounds of the BLIs are amazing to my ears, so is the quiet noises of the trains running across joints, etc.

The wonderful news is that the sound can be adjusted, from off to full spectrum.   

ENJOY  !

 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Thursday, September 27, 2018 10:30 AM

I originally only went to DCC for the sound, I just love my two Cab Forwards and two AC-9s pulling my 3½% grades a huffing and puffing, but I have far more DC locomotives (50+) than decoder equipped (12) and often run them more than the sounders.  I enjoy the sound when I’m in operational mode but silence is much better when I’m just working around on my layout, I often let a DC train run the layout when working on scenery.  As they say “Silence is Golden” and at 81 I really like Golden a lot.
 
 
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Posted by 7j43k on Thursday, September 27, 2018 10:49 AM

I'll go with "both", also.  F8 is a swell button.

Regarding sound, there are a few diesels that sound GREAT with the sound on (Atlas S-2, Rivarossi U25C.....) and some that get irritating REAL fast (UP turbines, Bowser Red Barns, and some other EMD turbos).

In steam, I find it very irritating when the chuffs sound like the valve timing is off.  I prefer my steamers to sound like they've been properly maintained, not sounding "cute".

 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Thursday, September 27, 2018 10:54 AM

It's a mood thing for me.  Generally prefer quiet or music of choice and only train sounds now and then.

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Posted by selector on Thursday, September 27, 2018 11:12 AM

This has been discussed innumberable times since I joined the forums in early 2005.  As with any part of the hobby, we must suspend disbelief, including the tinny sounds the HO-sized speakers are capable of producing inside small plastic containers.

Even so, I do prefer the sounds, if only rude approximations, of working steam locomotives.  The silent clackety clack is like a knitting machine, which I do not use. Nothing like the sounds of the prototype at all.

What saves me, personally, is lowering the master volume to about the 40% level.  From there I lower the really repetitive and irritating sounds like pop-off and blow down, or even the injector sound.  My bell volume is low, just enough to hear it when its close.

Also, it is important to only have one or two locomotives making sounds at the same time.  Otherwise, it's just a raucous cacophany of tinny noise.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Thursday, September 27, 2018 11:24 AM

Silence for me pls.  It's sometimes nice for me to get about an hour at night in the cave to work on the train.  By not having a sound decoder, I can hear the clank of cars along the rails. 

Perhaps I'll venture out into a sound decoder when  I have more money.  Maybe  I should start a gofundme site.  Not that anyone would contribute... 

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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, September 27, 2018 11:29 AM

Both.Some days I use one of my DCC/Sound engine and other days by the press of a button on my MRC T-6 I use a silent DC engine.

Either way I'm as happy as a two headed woodpecker in a bucket of worms.

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Posted by Water Level Route on Thursday, September 27, 2018 11:42 AM

Both for me too.  If I'm actively operating, then 99% of the time, I have the sounds on.  If I'm just letting a train run while I work, then it sort of depends.  I can listen to a steam engine chuff away for quite some time, but the drone of a diesel starts to get annoying after a short while.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Thursday, September 27, 2018 12:04 PM

My old Marklin 3-rail AC trains make such a terrific noise running on the infamous Marklin tinplate track, that sound is a waste of money.

Happy times!

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Posted by tstage on Thursday, September 27, 2018 12:14 PM

I like them both, as well, but I generally enjoy sound slightly less - i.e. maybe 30-40% of the time.  F8 is indeed a wonderful option.

Yea, I totally get the clickity-clack comment, Robert.  All my rolling stock is outfitted with Kadee couplers and metal wheels.  So, the longer the train; the longer the clickity-clack.  I find it a very enjoyable and soothing sound.

I think the early morning hours is very conducive to quiet.  So have at it, Robert...and enjoy your coffee. Big Smile

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Posted by nealknows on Thursday, September 27, 2018 12:49 PM

I like both sound and non-sound. If I have some non-model railroaders over to see the trains, I try to have at least one sound engine running a train. During my operating sessions, with a small room (20'x20') and 6 or 7 guys in the room, you can barely hear the guys talk, so I prefer no sound engines running. 

On a few occassions I have two of my model railroad friends over with their sound engines (both guys don't have layouts), and with just the three of us, the sounds on the trains they bring, as we like to say are 'very nice!'

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, September 27, 2018 1:16 PM

I prefer a quiet room.  I do run sound engines, but I have the volume set pretty low.  I don't like TV,  radio, cell phone conversations, lawnmower noise or other distraction's.

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:06 PM

Sometimes the sound is fun.  But mostly I run with the sound off.  The sound of the wheels on the track and the clicking at the joints is usually as much as I want.

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Posted by oldline1 on Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:07 PM

I prefer sound. The main reason I went with DCC was the sounds.

My layout had no continuous run capability so when working of something I just left one engine powered up and listened to the sounds of a steamer at rest. The airpumps, pop valves, injectors and fireman Fred were nice in the background to me.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:42 PM

I like the trains quiet and the music of my choice.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:54 PM

The pollster has asked a leading question. Hmm

I prefer sound and therefore prefer my locos with sound to the ones that don't have it.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Thursday, September 27, 2018 4:02 PM

All quiet here, no sound, no DCC.

Music is ok in the train room, but only if played thru good quality speakers.

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, September 27, 2018 4:22 PM

As others have mentioned, sound is nice — in moderation.

I relate it to seasoning in a cooked dish. Too much of anything spoils the whole meal.

Often, it can depend on how I feel at the time and for what reason I'm "firing-up" the layout. If I simply want to do some diagnostic work or try out a recent decoder install I'll keep everything in silent-mode.

If, on the other hand, I plan to have a whole evening of running trains I like to be able to hear, in moderation, the varied and individual sounds of the locomotives (and cars, as I have a few "soundcar" equipped cars, too) going through their paces.

Listening to a few idling diesels with their occasional condensate air drain (I don't much care for the sound of the modern "spitter") or if it's steam, some random air-pump or blower sounds when sitting are sounds I like to hear while I'm putzing around the layout with other things.

Again, like the spices — delicately balanced with not too much of any one makes for a tasty operating session.

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Posted by NHTX on Thursday, September 27, 2018 4:22 PM

    Quiet, please.  No noise other than metal wheels rolling, with an overlay of big band music, playing at normal conversational level.

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Posted by Attuvian on Thursday, September 27, 2018 5:01 PM

NHTX

    Quiet, please.  No noise other than metal wheels rolling, with an overlay of big band music, playing at normal conversational level.


 
Preference here, too, for rail noises.  I suspect because that is what I heard most while standing beside the MCRR (NYC) as a kid.  Whether steam or diesel, the motive power came and went rather quickly.  The far greater portion of the time it was the clack of a long freight consist.  Perhaps with an occasion squealing journal or clunk from a flat spot on a wheel (BTW, has any enterprising sound vendor come up with these?).
 
As for music?  Dvorak, Debussy, Stanford, Brahms, or perhaps Bach.  John Cage, Charles Ives, or Tschaikovsky only when derailments and collisions are planned.
 
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Posted by PRR8259 on Thursday, September 27, 2018 5:45 PM

Some nights, with my challenging work, and declining parents' health (both in nursing homes, not doing so well), it can be hard to sleep soundly the whole night, so I'll go downstairs and run a train at 3 or 4 am to get sleepy again.

There's something beautiful about running a train in peace and quiet, when all the world outside is dark and sleepy, and the wife and kids are asleep in their beds.

For me it depends:  Rapido's sound engines are fantastic.  They nailed the sound particularly in the most recent releases, so I can actually enjoy running them despite my general preferences for silent.

Then there's the Atlas QSI dual-mode decoder engines, like the C420, which don't sound very good by comparison, to put it nicely, and the whole gamut of other more recent "with sound" offerings to boot.  My C420 is nos, from more than 10 years ago, so perhaps is not the best comparison...but even the Walthers Mainline PA-1 is well, not so great in the sound department.

So for me it depends upon just what the engine(s) are that are being run.

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Posted by xboxtravis7992 on Thursday, September 27, 2018 6:01 PM

Sound for me. I can understand the logic of not wanting enough sound to distract from the experience, but I do think its possible to strike a balance. I remember in one of David Popp's books how he discussed his railroad having a background track, with localized speakers playing different sounds in different areas of the layout (industrial in the city, birds chirping and distant vehicles in the country, the sound of a brook near a river etc.) 

With that said, such over abundance of sound really only makes sense during a large operations session, were the ruffling noise of operators is going to muffle a lot of it anyways; and really only be noticable when the operators pause briefly in the action. I am sure the sound of birds chirping while a layout owner is working alone in the room would get old fast. 

Of course I am the dork who hopes some company like Bath and Bodyworks makes a 'Sage Brush' smelling candle in the future so I could populate some hypothetical future layout room with the smell of the desert. I could also use some Cresote and Diesel exhaust candles please. Stick out tongue

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Posted by The Winter Wolf on Thursday, September 27, 2018 6:19 PM

Diesel sound is good, steam sound gets annoying. Too much chuffing for me.

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Posted by Attuvian on Thursday, September 27, 2018 6:34 PM

Layout size and ops type are a factor to consider, along with what I'll call "scale sound", for want of a better term.

Unless one's sound is turned down low and he's at the far end of a really large pike, the sound of any yard operation or engines merely parked there will be heard in the no longer pristine countryside where you're watching a long-haul freight.

And as for "scale sound", I'd bet there's a difference in our expectations and preferences simply because we're used to hearing railroad sounds from ground level, rather than the hundreds of scale feet above the ground that our ears actually are for most of our activities in the hobby. I'm presuming, though perhaps in error, that any railroad noise presents differently from above than beside, even at the same extended distance, because of differences in what is immediately behind the source.  Perhaps there's a railfan or two that have done it from a balloon that can can offer their observations on the matter.

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Posted by Doughless on Thursday, September 27, 2018 6:42 PM

Turbocharger whine is always annoying.

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:39 PM

I prefer sound as long as it is good sound. There is nothing worse than a tinny squealing high pitched scratchy whine.

I prefer the volume to be at the 30% - 40% level except for shows when I crank it up to the highest volume that still sounds decent. Otherwise the background noise at the shows cancels the sound almost completely.

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Posted by Southgate on Friday, September 28, 2018 3:12 AM

xboxtravis7992



Of course I am the dork who hopes some company like Bath and Bodyworks makes a 'Sage Brush' smelling candle in the future so I could populate some hypothetical future layout room with the smell of the desert. I could also use some Cresote and Diesel exhaust candles please. Stick out tongue

 

Living in the high desert of central Oregon, where true silver sage brush abounds, I can tell ya, it smells like the spice that it's named after. Open a jar...

On topic, I'm happy with quiet. DC.  If I do go DCC it won't be for sound. Dan

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, September 28, 2018 3:20 AM

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