SpaceMouse ATLANTIC CENTRAL But Randy, I can tell by that discription that it involves working knowledge of computers I don't have, and don't want to take the time to learn. Actually it is pretty easy. Edit: I just read further and can see you are not interested. Nevermind. I'm leaving the details for others though. Setting things up just requires you to make the purchase. The site will marry your domain name to your host. After that you just have to log on to your control panel. No harder than logging on to Amazon or eBay. Then you just select your file manager from the control panel, and drag and drop the pictures you want to post here. If you want to get fancy, you can create a directory like images or pictures. Next it's just a matter of using the insert image function and putting in http://www.sheldonspictures.com/images/mycoollocomotive01.jpg
ATLANTIC CENTRAL But Randy, I can tell by that discription that it involves working knowledge of computers I don't have, and don't want to take the time to learn.
Actually it is pretty easy.
Edit: I just read further and can see you are not interested. Nevermind. I'm leaving the details for others though.
Setting things up just requires you to make the purchase. The site will marry your domain name to your host.
After that you just have to log on to your control panel. No harder than logging on to Amazon or eBay.
Then you just select your file manager from the control panel, and drag and drop the pictures you want to post here. If you want to get fancy, you can create a directory like images or pictures.
Next it's just a matter of using the insert image function and putting in http://www.sheldonspictures.com/images/mycoollocomotive01.jpg
Asked and answered several times, I'm just not interested. And it would be VERY TIME CONSUMING to reconstruct the picture links for my postings on the garden tractor forum as they do not allow user editing of posts after the first hour.
Sheldon
ATLANTIC CENTRALBut Randy, I can tell by that discription that it involves working knowledge of computers I don't have, and don't want to take the time to learn.
Chip
Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.
Atlantic Central/Sheldon
I had a problem with my old internet provider who also hosted my BRVRR website. For whatever reason after they changed hands their organization fell apart and my website was only available intermittently.
I changed providers and went to BlueHost as my website host. I have been with them for 3-4 years now and never a problem. All of my photos and the pages for my website are on their servers.
BlueHost costs about $100 dollars a year but they assume most of the headache stuff and provide site security as well.
Here is a link to their website: https://www.bluehost.com/contact
Remember its your railroad
Allan
Track to the BRVRR Website: http://www.brvrr.com/
richhotrain I'm not going to bother to go back to Photobucket. I am happy with imgbb.com Rich
I'm not going to bother to go back to Photobucket. I am happy with imgbb.com
Rich
I'm with Rich...
Marlon
See pictures of the Clinton-Golden Valley RR
Well Don, building a kitchen, or a whole house, or restoring a 1901 porch is easy for me, but my clients are happy to pay me lots of money.
Just like I'm happy to pay my IT guy when he is needed.
I was writing code for early plc's in the early 1980's, I manage a lot of stuff on my computer just fine. But I don't have the time, need or interest to get deeper into it.
It simply does not interest me. For me a computer is a tool, not a toy, hobby or occupation.
And I am no longer in that occupation that had me programing plc's in the 80's........
ATLANTIC CENTRAL DigitalGriffin Sheldon, We are getting a bit off topic and I'm not going to argue your contribution to the work back then. But today's backbone providers and major companies are extremely sensitive to operating cost. They will upgrade networking equipment and servers if it delivers better efficiency. And the total estimated power draw hasn't increased that much with the exception of a few outliers which are now stablizing. Now that company growth has moderated. Intel makes most of their money selling chips that consume a lot less power to companies even though they aren't really faster. And setting up your own server is a trivial task for a computer engineer like me. Install Windows. Set up port forwarding on the router. Install is and then choose among the home brews for image web servers. The hardest part is getting the site certificate and dns. Like I said it's a half days work. Don, I said in that post that I realize that improved hardware has offset increases in power needs - but it all had to be built in the first place, and it requires maintenance. And if I wanted a web site I would pay someone like you, not struggle through it on my own. I have a great IT guy. But I don't need or want that in my life. I have no desire to put my life, or my business on the web. My business would not benefit from a web page, and I will repeat, I have no interest in having a personal site. So, even at $400, it sounds like I am both TIME and money ahead with Photobucket.......my time being much more important...... Sheldon
DigitalGriffin Sheldon, We are getting a bit off topic and I'm not going to argue your contribution to the work back then. But today's backbone providers and major companies are extremely sensitive to operating cost. They will upgrade networking equipment and servers if it delivers better efficiency. And the total estimated power draw hasn't increased that much with the exception of a few outliers which are now stablizing. Now that company growth has moderated. Intel makes most of their money selling chips that consume a lot less power to companies even though they aren't really faster. And setting up your own server is a trivial task for a computer engineer like me. Install Windows. Set up port forwarding on the router. Install is and then choose among the home brews for image web servers. The hardest part is getting the site certificate and dns. Like I said it's a half days work.
Sheldon,
We are getting a bit off topic and I'm not going to argue your contribution to the work back then. But today's backbone providers and major companies are extremely sensitive to operating cost. They will upgrade networking equipment and servers if it delivers better efficiency. And the total estimated power draw hasn't increased that much with the exception of a few outliers which are now stablizing. Now that company growth has moderated. Intel makes most of their money selling chips that consume a lot less power to companies even though they aren't really faster.
And setting up your own server is a trivial task for a computer engineer like me. Install Windows. Set up port forwarding on the router. Install is and then choose among the home brews for image web servers. The hardest part is getting the site certificate and dns. Like I said it's a half days work.
Don, I said in that post that I realize that improved hardware has offset increases in power needs - but it all had to be built in the first place, and it requires maintenance.
And if I wanted a web site I would pay someone like you, not struggle through it on my own.
I have a great IT guy.
But I don't need or want that in my life. I have no desire to put my life, or my business on the web.
My business would not benefit from a web page, and I will repeat, I have no interest in having a personal site.
So, even at $400, it sounds like I am both TIME and money ahead with Photobucket.......my time being much more important......
Don - Specializing in layout DC->DCC conversions
Modeling C&O transition era and steel industries There's Nothing Like Big Steam!
Don't go away Sheldon, you are one of the bright spots on this forum, whether we agree on an item or not, I mean that.
rrinker ATLANTIC CENTRAL rrinker ATLANTIC CENTRAL And so how much does it cost to have your own web site and host your own photos? I ask because I know nothing about that sort of thing, and apparently a few of you do that? Sheldon It costs me $60 a year for my web hosting. But my provider has a plan for $30/yr that would easily fit most people's photo posting. At one point I actually was running two different web sites on mine which is why I even upgraded from their most basic plan which is only $12/yr. Now I only have my one site, so I suppose I could back it down. Depending on what size photos you post, even the $12/yr plan might be sufficient. Domain names are about $10-$15 per year to register. I use an old version of Dreamweaver to maintain my site, so there is the content on my provider's server, a complete coppy of it on my local machine, which is backed up to my server, and all my pictures are also in the picture folder on my server which is replicated across at least 3 physical drives in the server plus backed up to an outside backup provider. Even if my web provider goes belly-up tomorrow (but I've been using them for at least 15 years now), my entire site won;t go away, and when I would re-establish it with another provider, all my broken images would be restored because the domain name is MINE. --Randy But Randy, I can tell by that discription that it involves working knowledge of computers I don't have, and don't want to take the time to learn. I don't want a blog, or to post all my business about my layout on the web, etc, etc. Sheldon You don't have to do any of that. And you can leave out the part about the server, although the server I used was DESIGNED for non-computer people. It's not like a server in a business. All that stuff it does - backing up my computers - it does automatically, I didn;t have to set anything. It doesn;t even have a keyboard and monitor attached to it. Too bad they discontinued it. FOr the web host, you can simply upload pictures and post links to them in forums. You don;t need to create a web site like mine in order to host pictures there. There are other easy, drag and drop programs to get pictures from your computer to your "web site" that are strictly for file copying, unlike Dreamweaver which is also (mainly) for actually creating web content. WHich BTW works like any word processor, you just type text and you can set colors and font sizes and so forth, it's not like these ridiculously complex content managers like Wordpress and Drupal. Since I haven't actually updated my web content in ages, I mostly just use it as a file transfer - I put the picture in my images folder, open Dreamweaver, and hit the sync button, and the file is uploaded t the remote server. That's it. In the days when Home Server was still a going thing, you actually could just share pictures right off it, didn;t even have to upload them anywhere. But it was mainly for sharing entire folders with family and friends - you could give Grandma a login to see the latest pics of the grandkids, for example. No need to try to email pictures. I built my own server, because I build all my own computers, most of the ones you buy at the store already made are overpriced junk. But when Home Server was a going thing, you could go to a store and buy, off the shelf, a system ready to go - take it out of th ebox, plug it in, answer a few questions similar to any new computer, and you were off. None of that server management stuff. It only supports 10 computers connected to it, so it was targeted specifically to home users with one or two. Cynical side says they discontinuted it because small businesses, the types that can;t afford a dedicate computer person, were buying it as a simple way to hook up all the PCs, back them up, and share files. --Randy
ATLANTIC CENTRAL rrinker ATLANTIC CENTRAL And so how much does it cost to have your own web site and host your own photos? I ask because I know nothing about that sort of thing, and apparently a few of you do that? Sheldon It costs me $60 a year for my web hosting. But my provider has a plan for $30/yr that would easily fit most people's photo posting. At one point I actually was running two different web sites on mine which is why I even upgraded from their most basic plan which is only $12/yr. Now I only have my one site, so I suppose I could back it down. Depending on what size photos you post, even the $12/yr plan might be sufficient. Domain names are about $10-$15 per year to register. I use an old version of Dreamweaver to maintain my site, so there is the content on my provider's server, a complete coppy of it on my local machine, which is backed up to my server, and all my pictures are also in the picture folder on my server which is replicated across at least 3 physical drives in the server plus backed up to an outside backup provider. Even if my web provider goes belly-up tomorrow (but I've been using them for at least 15 years now), my entire site won;t go away, and when I would re-establish it with another provider, all my broken images would be restored because the domain name is MINE. --Randy But Randy, I can tell by that discription that it involves working knowledge of computers I don't have, and don't want to take the time to learn. I don't want a blog, or to post all my business about my layout on the web, etc, etc. Sheldon
rrinker ATLANTIC CENTRAL And so how much does it cost to have your own web site and host your own photos? I ask because I know nothing about that sort of thing, and apparently a few of you do that? Sheldon It costs me $60 a year for my web hosting. But my provider has a plan for $30/yr that would easily fit most people's photo posting. At one point I actually was running two different web sites on mine which is why I even upgraded from their most basic plan which is only $12/yr. Now I only have my one site, so I suppose I could back it down. Depending on what size photos you post, even the $12/yr plan might be sufficient. Domain names are about $10-$15 per year to register. I use an old version of Dreamweaver to maintain my site, so there is the content on my provider's server, a complete coppy of it on my local machine, which is backed up to my server, and all my pictures are also in the picture folder on my server which is replicated across at least 3 physical drives in the server plus backed up to an outside backup provider. Even if my web provider goes belly-up tomorrow (but I've been using them for at least 15 years now), my entire site won;t go away, and when I would re-establish it with another provider, all my broken images would be restored because the domain name is MINE. --Randy
ATLANTIC CENTRAL And so how much does it cost to have your own web site and host your own photos? I ask because I know nothing about that sort of thing, and apparently a few of you do that? Sheldon
And so how much does it cost to have your own web site and host your own photos?
I ask because I know nothing about that sort of thing, and apparently a few of you do that?
It costs me $60 a year for my web hosting. But my provider has a plan for $30/yr that would easily fit most people's photo posting. At one point I actually was running two different web sites on mine which is why I even upgraded from their most basic plan which is only $12/yr. Now I only have my one site, so I suppose I could back it down.
Depending on what size photos you post, even the $12/yr plan might be sufficient.
Domain names are about $10-$15 per year to register.
I use an old version of Dreamweaver to maintain my site, so there is the content on my provider's server, a complete coppy of it on my local machine, which is backed up to my server, and all my pictures are also in the picture folder on my server which is replicated across at least 3 physical drives in the server plus backed up to an outside backup provider. Even if my web provider goes belly-up tomorrow (but I've been using them for at least 15 years now), my entire site won;t go away, and when I would re-establish it with another provider, all my broken images would be restored because the domain name is MINE.
--Randy
But Randy, I can tell by that discription that it involves working knowledge of computers I don't have, and don't want to take the time to learn.
I don't want a blog, or to post all my business about my layout on the web, etc, etc.
You don't have to do any of that. And you can leave out the part about the server, although the server I used was DESIGNED for non-computer people. It's not like a server in a business. All that stuff it does - backing up my computers - it does automatically, I didn;t have to set anything. It doesn;t even have a keyboard and monitor attached to it. Too bad they discontinued it.
FOr the web host, you can simply upload pictures and post links to them in forums. You don;t need to create a web site like mine in order to host pictures there. There are other easy, drag and drop programs to get pictures from your computer to your "web site" that are strictly for file copying, unlike Dreamweaver which is also (mainly) for actually creating web content. WHich BTW works like any word processor, you just type text and you can set colors and font sizes and so forth, it's not like these ridiculously complex content managers like Wordpress and Drupal. Since I haven't actually updated my web content in ages, I mostly just use it as a file transfer - I put the picture in my images folder, open Dreamweaver, and hit the sync button, and the file is uploaded t the remote server. That's it.
In the days when Home Server was still a going thing, you actually could just share pictures right off it, didn;t even have to upload them anywhere. But it was mainly for sharing entire folders with family and friends - you could give Grandma a login to see the latest pics of the grandkids, for example. No need to try to email pictures.
I built my own server, because I build all my own computers, most of the ones you buy at the store already made are overpriced junk. But when Home Server was a going thing, you could go to a store and buy, off the shelf, a system ready to go - take it out of th ebox, plug it in, answer a few questions similar to any new computer, and you were off. None of that server management stuff. It only supports 10 computers connected to it, so it was targeted specifically to home users with one or two. Cynical side says they discontinuted it because small businesses, the types that can;t afford a dedicate computer person, were buying it as a simple way to hook up all the PCs, back them up, and share files.
Randy, no matter how "easy", it still requires, time, money and has a learning curve.
Do you realize how close I am to not spending any time on this forum anyway?
And this and the one tractor forum are my ONLY online activities of this sort.
It was worth $400 to keep the tractor thread intact, that has earned me $15,000 in "spare time money" over the last 6 years. Keeping the train pictures up here was a free bonus.
hon30critter Hi gang: Yesterday I got an email from Photobucket offering to host pictures for 3rd party use for $99.99/year. That is $8.33 per month as opposed to the $39.99/month fee that they were demanding to continue to host 3rd party access when they first dropped their free service. That is an 80% drop in price. Ya don't suppose they have figured out that they shot themselves in the foot with the original price hike do ya? I asked specifically if that included restoring the old photos and they said yes. So, my question: Is getting your Photobucket pictures back onto the forums worth $100 per year. I'm pretty sure I'm going to see a predominantly negative response. IMHO it is still a rip off. Cheers!! Dave
Hi gang:
Yesterday I got an email from Photobucket offering to host pictures for 3rd party use for $99.99/year. That is $8.33 per month as opposed to the $39.99/month fee that they were demanding to continue to host 3rd party access when they first dropped their free service. That is an 80% drop in price. Ya don't suppose they have figured out that they shot themselves in the foot with the original price hike do ya? I asked specifically if that included restoring the old photos and they said yes.
So, my question: Is getting your Photobucket pictures back onto the forums worth $100 per year. I'm pretty sure I'm going to see a predominantly negative response. IMHO it is still a rip off.
Cheers!!
Dave
Absolutley not. They are dead to me.
IMGUR is still working well for me after a year.
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I hope it stays that way.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
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ATLANTIC CENTRAL I don't want a blog, or to post all my business about my layout on the web, etc, etc. Sheldon
Hey Sheldon,
I understand, but I'm hoping one day you'll relent and post a little something. And I don't think I'm the only one who's curious. Nothing personal or exploitative or anything, just basic layout stuff.
Robert
LINK to SNSR Blog
$100 a year might be alright for a business, but I'm moving everything to Imgur since it's free and fast. Most of my major photos are moved now.
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Photobucket made thousands of enemies when they changed their policy so I imagine their quest to bring people back is falling on deaf ears.
Buzz off PB.
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BMMECNYC...Doctor Wayne either figured out how to get to a real person or is also AI. Really the only two options I could see here.
Well, I'm certainly not "artificial", and it's probably best that I don't address the "intelligent" part at all.
I was seriously considering abandonning photobucket when my "grandfathered" status expires, but, in my opinion, their $99.00/year option wouldn't be all that out-of-line, considering the ease of use. If I did opt out, I wouldn't likely bother going to another provider...I enjoy sharing photos because it's probably the best way to provide answers to questions, but it takes a lot of time, too.
As for rebuilding threads, I've done it extensively on Big Blue when our "Gallery" (an in-forum hosting site for photos posted within the forum) was removed. Photos posted there now can be from a site such as photobucket or Flickr, etc., or they can be added as attachments, although that requires the user to first re-size the photos - not that difficult.We also lost a lot of photos there when some technical difficulties arose - don't know the cause or details, but there were several threads there where the photos disappeared, but their identification remained visible. The one I remember best was a real-time exchange between a veteran modeller (the late biL Marsland, also a member here) and a relatively new, but very accomplished and committed member at Big Blue. The latter built a large outbuilding for his layout and proceeded to duplicate scenes in his area - photos of the prototype locales and photos of the modelled version were stunningly similar. However, he needed a backdrop, and while a commercially-made photo backdrop, even as large as might have been required, was a possibility, biL suggested that it be painted. The ensuing back-and-forth was possibly the best example I've seen of a well-skilled teacher with a talented and willing student (who had no prior knowledge of the subject), all played out before an enthralled on-line audience. That exchange went on for several pages, and anybody who cared to look was learning, too.Anyway, I got the photos from the "student" and labouriously re-inserted them into the thread in their proper places, all re-sized and added as attachments. Some time later (don't recall how long, probably 'cause I don't like thinking about it), more technical difficulties and the pictures were gone completely - no trace of them that would allow replacement.
As for back-ups of our own photos, sometimes even that doesn't escape technical glitches. My old computer was beginning to fail (still running Windows XP) and I was fortunate to get a new computer from my brother, so began transferring photos and documents, much of it to either discs or flash drives. I stumbled across a couple of items that I had overlooked, so plugged in an almost-full flash drive, and attempted to add those items to it. However, the computer didn't recognise that the drive had been plugged in, so I plugged an empty one into another port and transferred the items without difficulty. I then removed the almost-full one, and before putting it away, wanted to see something which I knew was on it. I quickly discovered that the key words were "was on it"...as in "but no longer is". Totally gone, not in the flash drive, not in the old computer, either. I'll be taking both for a professional assessment of what might have happened, but I'm not hopeful about that, either.
There are a few of my own threads on Big Blue that I intend to redo with attachments, just in case I do quit photobucket, but since things there move more slowly (smaller membership, so you don't have to dig too far back to find useful articles) than here, where posts drop off the first page fairly quickly, it's probably worthwhile. The "Search" function there also does actually function fairly well, so it's easier to find things than it is here.
While I'd like to think that I provide useful information and photos for the enjoyment and edification of others, I try to keep in mind that it's not really important if it survives and not always worth the time and effort to ensure that it does.
Wayne
Ok, it has been mentoned about the cost of installing servers was X, I hope you relize that those servers were opsolete, probubly on day one. A modern server over lets say 20 years would be 2,129,088 times capasity of one back then and that is not even considering other factors. I hope you don't think Photobucket still owns their own servers, they may but I doubt it. You also may not know that they disrupted e-bay sites, amazon sites and millions more or that they have another free site (or more) in their family.
carl425 ATLANTIC CENTRAL We have Fios fiber, 50 mbit/sec, $65 a month. We could get faster for about $100. So to host my own photos I would have to spend $400, spend more per month, learn a bunch of stuff I don't know much about, invest a lot of time I don't have? Your Fios terms of service prohibit running a server on a residential account. From Verizon Online Terms of Service " You also may not exceed the bandwidth usage limitations that Verizon may establish from time to time for the Service, or use the Service to host any type of server." Anyone interested can find the whole document here: http://www.verizon.com/about/sites/default/files/Internet-ToS-09122017-ENGLISH.pdf
ATLANTIC CENTRAL We have Fios fiber, 50 mbit/sec, $65 a month. We could get faster for about $100. So to host my own photos I would have to spend $400, spend more per month, learn a bunch of stuff I don't know much about, invest a lot of time I don't have?
Your Fios terms of service prohibit running a server on a residential account.
From Verizon Online Terms of Service
" You also may not exceed the bandwidth usage limitations that Verizon may establish from time to time for the Service, or use the Service to host any type of server."
Anyone interested can find the whole document here:
http://www.verizon.com/about/sites/default/files/Internet-ToS-09122017-ENGLISH.pdf
And there you have it, even more expense and more stuff I know too little about.
I'm a professional at what I do, and I am willing to pay professionals for what they do.....
ATLANTIC CENTRALWe have Fios fiber, 50 mbit/sec, $65 a month. We could get faster for about $100. So to host my own photos I would have to spend $400, spend more per month, learn a bunch of stuff I don't know much about, invest a lot of time I don't have?
I have the right to remain silent. By posting here I have given up that right and accept that anything I say can and will be used as evidence to critique me.
I'm glade 98% of the photos I'v posted on other forums are from my picture files. They are still up. I do not like to depend on others (PB) to control what I do and can't do. Still wish this Forum would let me upload pictures directly from my picture files and not have to link from another location, (a $middle man$). Tired of looking at that PB black speedometer. I have a very small amount of pictures on Flicker.
hon30critter Overmod The difference there is that the original posters were willing to go through and edit all the post links to new and better servers; one poster changing something like 734 separate links (and of course uploading each linked image to hosting first). I'm not sensing the same desire to replace the lost images here. Has anybody gone to that trouble? I've thought about doing it but I'm not sure that the time and effort required would be worth it. Dave
Overmod The difference there is that the original posters were willing to go through and edit all the post links to new and better servers; one poster changing something like 734 separate links (and of course uploading each linked image to hosting first).
I'm not sensing the same desire to replace the lost images here. Has anybody gone to that trouble? I've thought about doing it but I'm not sure that the time and effort required would be worth it.
On another forum I post on, for a totally different subject matter (GRAVELY garden tractors), users cannot edit posts after about 1 hour.
And I have a seven year, 62 page running instructional thread, the 2nd most viewed thread in that section of that forum.
So replacing all my photo links would require administrator help, would take dozens of hours, and the loss of that info would be a loss to that community.
richg1998Many clueless do not realize these online companies are A.I. Artificial Intelligence. Essentially no way to get to a Real Person.
Wierd, because Doctor Wayne wrote this yesterday:
doctorwayneWhile I agree that their new policy was very poorly introduced, and is outrageously priced, I can't say enough good things about their support staff. They've always been quick to respond, very helpful, and very polite, too.
Doctor Wayne either figured out how to get to a real person or is also AI. Really the only two options I could see here.
ATLANTIC CENTRAL So, going by your analogy, who in their right mind has there only copies of their photos on a photo hosting site? To be lost when they fold up shop or charge too much? No matter about my use of photobucket or any other site, every photo I have is on my hard drive and backed up several other places. The real loss is wasted time..... Sheldon
So, going by your analogy, who in their right mind has there only copies of their photos on a photo hosting site? To be lost when they fold up shop or charge too much?
No matter about my use of photobucket or any other site, every photo I have is on my hard drive and backed up several other places.
The real loss is wasted time.....
Alton Junction
Being an old man, I don't know much about photobucket but, this reminds me of the Union Pacific's licensing debacle of the mid 1990s. They also got hit with such a "dirty blizzard" that they dropped the whole mess and simply gave the licenses away.
hon30critterI'm not sensing the same desire to replace the lost images here. Has anybody gone to that trouble?
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