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Other Than Locos or Rolling Stock What Would You Like to See be Made

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Other Than Locos or Rolling Stock What Would You Like to See be Made
Posted by BATMAN on Friday, September 22, 2017 12:38 PM

The title say's it all, other than our wants and wishes for Loco's and rolling stock, is there anything you would like to see manufactured, from the smallest detail part to a particular building or something else altogether. 

C.P.has come out with these wildlife warning devices that I doubt would be a big seller in our hobby, but you never know.

 

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Friday, September 22, 2017 1:04 PM

I would love HO scale vehicles from the 1970s through the 1990s, and at reasonable prices. Several years ago Model Power and some other brands like Malibu International LTD, Motor Max Fresh Cherries made a bunch of nice cars which were sold at Walmart for $1 each. I bought one of each model but I wish I would have bought several. I see them now on eBay for 5, 10 even 20 times their cost. The model that seems to go for the highest price is the sole pickup truck except for the Bat Mobile which is being bought by a entirely different group of people. I would like to see a lot more variety of them. One model in particular I would like to see was the ever present Toyota SR5 4X4 pickup that was very popular in the 1980s especially among construction workers. Related image

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Posted by Attuvian on Friday, September 22, 2017 1:17 PM

I don't know about the warning devices, but the availability of bears, moose and elk would be nice.  Just not on the track.

My mind now returns to the early 50s and a first exposure to Lionel's auto-load/unload action cars and such.  Perhaps some enterprising company can produce wildlife that can climb onto the tracks (and off) at the push of a button.  Why it's the next iteration of DCC!

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Posted by chutton01 on Friday, September 22, 2017 2:24 PM

Attuvian

I don't know about the warning devices, but the availability of bears, moose and elk would be nice.  Just not on the track.

My mind now returns to the early 50s and a first exposure to Lionel's auto-load/unload action cars and such.  Perhaps some enterprising company can produce wildlife that can climb onto the tracks (and off) at the push of a button.  Why it's the next iteration of DCC!


Well, there were some attempts made back in the 1980s...
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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, September 22, 2017 2:46 PM

I have always wanted to show a "raw" locomotive boiler being worked on or shipped in to my back-shop area. It would make for an interesting flat car load as well:

I could probably scratch something using styrene and some of those rivet decals but it is one of those projects WAY on the back burner.

Seems to me an outfit like American Model Builders (Laserkits) could knock something out like this. They have the Navy guns and other large flat car loads in their catalog. Maybe I'll send them a suggestion.

Thinking of shop scenes, I'd also like to see a diesel carbody with parts of the hood and cowling removed so you could easily see the prime mover and internals. Again, like an engine being stripped or in for a major overhaul. I've seen it done by a few modelers but I simply cannot find the time for such an endeavor.

I have a bunch of spare carbody shells around but the plastic sidewalls are just too thick, even using a Highliner shell, the cutting gets messy being so thick.

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Posted by DavidH66 on Friday, September 22, 2017 3:32 PM

I aree with Lone Wolf, there needs to be more 1:87th scale vehicles from the 70s and 80s. It seems most of the vehicles from that time are ones made By the german manufacturers and thus are mostly model used in Germany during the 70s / 80s.

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Posted by Eric White on Friday, September 22, 2017 3:43 PM

Another vote for cars and trucks of the '70s.

And something to fill open auto-racks that didn't weigh a ton and cost a fortune.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, September 22, 2017 4:04 PM

gmpullman
...a "raw" locomotive boiler being worked on or shipped in to my back-shop area. It would make for an interesting flat car load as well...

This would be of interest to me, too, especially if it included stationary boilers, as I'll have an "engine works" on my layout.  My use would be mostly as flatcar loads.

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Posted by LensCapOn on Friday, September 22, 2017 4:04 PM

"Other Than Locos or Rolling Stock What Would You Like to See be Made"

 

Coupler springs that don't spring away going Weeeeee! at the first attempt to install.

 

Please note you didn't ask for what's possible, just what people want. (And I CAN'T be the only one who wants this...)

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, September 22, 2017 4:21 PM

doctorwayne
This would be of interest to me, too, especially if it included stationary boilers, as I'll have an "engine works" on my layout.

Hi, Wayne

Are you familiar with the Builders In Scale double boilers?

http://www.builders-in-scale.com/bis/kit/607.html

Speaking of "Engine Works" I'm in the process of building these beauties:

https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Faller/180383.aspx

Ever since my boyhood visit to the Henry Ford Museum I have had a fascination with huge stationary engines.

Take a look at what these folks have done:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/antique-machinery-and-history/pictures-old-boiler-power-houses-209380/

OK, back to the original thread...

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Posted by chutton01 on Friday, September 22, 2017 4:39 PM

Forget vehicles of the '70s and '80s, I need HO vehicles from the '90s till today (only so many 50s and 60s vehicles you can have on a module without it looking like a classic car show), particular some transit buses of the modern era (eh, Rapdio?)
I took a look on Shapeways, and while there are some modern era transit buses available from Michael Peng et. al, they seem to be solid, which I hate the look of ('painted' windows never look right, and no interior possiblities without a lot of fuzty carving). That said, there are some N scale '5' packs of 1990s vehicles for 40.00-50.00US$, solid of course, but that might not matter for autoracks. HO scale didn't see 5-packs, but single HO Toyota Camry's went for 10.49. To be fair, they did offer a few open (non-solid) buses in the line, which is cool.

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Posted by gdelmoro on Friday, September 22, 2017 4:40 PM

HO Code 100 re-railers wothout those large black plastic crossing ramps. If they are made I can't find them. I would like to install a couple on the main line.

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Posted by csxns on Friday, September 22, 2017 5:09 PM

Modern detailed loaded to the gills 18 wheelers.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, September 22, 2017 5:27 PM

Thanks for sharing those links, Ed. Big Smile

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Posted by groundeffects on Friday, September 22, 2017 7:34 PM

I'd like to see at least half of the building and landscape detail parts made for HO also be made available in N scale.  It would be nice to see N scale building kits with a greater variety of architectural styles (especially those found on the west coast).  I'd love to see some N scale kits such as the spanish/mission revival style train stations that the Espee built, such as those seen in the California Central Valley (Modesto, CA)and the LA Basin (Glendale, CA). 

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Friday, September 22, 2017 7:47 PM

I would like to see a revised working HO scale trolley bus system like Brawa once made.

Trolley buses were short lived in the US, but saw limited use in nearly every major US city at the end of the street car era. With the transition era still one of the most popular with modelers, a nice trolley bus system might do well for some manufacturer.

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Posted by KemacPrr on Friday, September 22, 2017 8:02 PM

A bulk trailer !!!  Good for the late 50's on. Second on the bi/tri level auto loads. Cars with no hub caps diferent colors and maybe even station wagon styles. --  Ken 

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Posted by oldline1 on Friday, September 22, 2017 8:51 PM

As a Western Maryland Ry fan and fan of all coal mining I would like to see details suitable for coal mines like the coal loading convetor belts and the equipment to support them. Lots of details would be usable for other industries too.

I agree with a detailed basic boiler being built or worked on in a shop would be a good thing.

More coal mine models would be nice. Perhaps a modular type that could be expanded and changed into various shapes and sizes.

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, September 22, 2017 9:09 PM

Just thought of something else... can I make more than one requestGeeked

How about a truly "integrated" signal system. One where I can source all the needed hardware from one supplier and add-on or customize the system as the layout grows or as my operating plan expands.

I have lots of Signal Animators from Logicrail and they work great for what they are but you have to find signals from other vendors (hit-or-miss, at best) and some are common anode, some common cathode, often you need different resistors on each of the LED colors.

I'd like to see more of a "plug-and-play" setup that can easily be integrated into a detection system and possibly JMRI. I'm aware of different manufacturers offering boards ov varying styles but I'd like to be able to work with a "Package Deal" including a reliable way to plug the signals into a easy to wire mounting pad.

If I recall Atlas began something of this sort some years ago but didn't seem to get much support.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Friday, September 22, 2017 10:05 PM

gmpullman

Just thought of something else... can I make more than one requestGeeked

How about a truly "integrated" signal system. One where I can source all the needed hardware from one supplier and add-on or customize the system as the layout grows or as my operating plan expands.

I have lots of Signal Animators from Logicrail and they work great for what they are but you have to find signals from other vendors (hit-or-miss, at best) and some are common anode, some common cathode, often you need different resistors on each of the LED colors.

I'd like to see more of a "plug-and-play" setup that can easily be integrated into a detection system and possibly JMRI. I'm aware of different manufacturers offering boards ov varying styles but I'd like to be able to work with a "Package Deal" including a reliable way to plug the signals into a easy to wire mounting pad.

If I recall Atlas began something of this sort some years ago but didn't seem to get much support.

My 2 Cents  My 2 Cents  Ed

 

The Atlas signal system was way too expensive, and if I recall did not offer transition era or older signals - both it seems would be a death spell.

True signaling is so complex it is hard to make it "plug and play".

I found it much easier to eliminate "block" signals and only model interlocking signals - a suggestion made decades ago by a number of experianced modelers from those decades past.

I found it rather easy to use relays and inductive detectors to accrately model interlocking or "home" signals, skipping over open country permissive block signals.

I also only model some "yellow" aspects. 

Even on large layouts, the distances between interlockings simply does not justify too much complexity.

I install "approach" signals half way between interlockings, which give a "block signal" appearance but actually are just repeating the infor on the signal at the next interlocking - makes wiring easier, and gives operators only the info they need.

Detection and turnout position control each signal, signals do not go green until CTC disaptcher clears the next block.

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Posted by Paul3 on Friday, September 22, 2017 10:06 PM

I would like to have a realistic wireless DCC throttle for retail sale (hopefully for Loconet).  Yes, I know of the one custom made out of a Digitrax UT4R, but something professional would be nice.  It would have an 8-notch throttle, train brakes, independant brakes, dynamic brakes (all adjustable on the throttle), headlights, rear lights, horn, bell, and DCC address selector.  Adjustable momentum on the throttle would be nice, too.  What I want is to recreate the experience of actually running a real locomotive, and not operating a cell phone or a calculator.

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, September 22, 2017 10:29 PM

Paul3
I would like to have a realistic wireless DCC throttle for retail sale...

What I want is to recreate the experience of actually running a real locomotive, and not operating a cell phone or a calculator.

I'll second that request, Paul Yes

Are you familiar with the Iowa Scaled Engineering project, Paul?

http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/25866

I hope I'm around long enough to get to play with one of these. There was a bit of discussion about realistic throttles here some time ago.

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/744/p/254524/2846858.aspx

 

[edit] If you go to the YouTube site there are a couple more videos by Scott Thornton of the Proto-Throttle.

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Posted by G Paine on Friday, September 22, 2017 10:38 PM

Some more vehicles for the 50s & 60s

Nash Metropolitan
Jeepster (50s, not 70s version)
Jeep wagon (Wiking made one, but has not been avaiable for years)
Corvair
Ford Hideaway hardtop (maybe with the top that retracts?)


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Posted by andrechapelon on Friday, September 22, 2017 11:32 PM

Actually, Sheldon, trolley buses are still being used in San Francisco.

https://www.sfmta.com/about-sfmta/our-history-and-fleet/sfmta-fleet/muni-trolley-electric-coaches

And Boston, although it appears that these are diesel-electric hybrids similar in idea to New Haven's FL9's.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ZXi2gdHSI

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:20 AM

andrechapelon

Actually, Sheldon, trolley buses are still being used in San Francisco.

https://www.sfmta.com/about-sfmta/our-history-and-fleet/sfmta-fleet/muni-trolley-electric-coaches

And Boston, although it appears that these are diesel-electric hybrids similar in idea to New Haven's FL9's.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ZXi2gdHSI

Andre

 

 

Yes, I am aware that there are still a few still running here in the US.

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Posted by NVSRR on Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:35 AM

There is a good number here in philadelphia.  They recently got new ones

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:41 AM

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Coupler springs that don't spring away going Weeeeee! at the first attempt to install.

Get a needle and thread and run it down the center of the spring.  I use a piece of thread about 6", only so the thread doesn't come of the needle.  You want the spring down at the other end, with only an inch or two sticking out.

It makes maneuvering the spring a little different, but the spring never leaves the table. You might think pulling the thread after installation would dislodge the spring, but so far I haven't had that happen.

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Posted by NVSRR on Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:44 AM

gmpullman

Just thought of something else... can I make more than one requestGeeked

How about a truly "integrated" signal system. One where I can source all the needed hardware from one supplier and add-on or customize the system as the layout grows or as my operating plan expands.

I have lots of Signal Animators from Logicrail and they work great for what they are but you have to find signals from other vendors (hit-or-miss, at best) and some are common anode, some common cathode, often you need different resistors on each of the LED colors.

I'd like to see more of a "plug-and-play" setup that can easily be integrated into a detection system and possibly JMRI. I'm aware of different manufacturers offering boards ov varying styles but I'd like to be able to work with a "Package Deal" including a reliable way to plug the signals into a easy to wire mounting pad.

If I recall Atlas began something of this sort some years ago but didn't seem to get much support.

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integrated signal system.  He will build signals for any era.   With all the propper electronics to support it as a complete prototype operating system.  

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Posted by NVSRR on Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:50 AM

I agree.  We need more conveyors and support equipment. Not just coal mines.    

I would like to see more kit systems like Dpm. And what walthers had

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, September 23, 2017 8:41 AM

I put together a working crossing gate system, but I had to go to three different manufacturers to get all the components.  It ended up working pretty well, but it turned out to be quite a project and it definitely took a lot of experience to figure it all out.

There are some toy-like grade crossings, but that's not what most of us are looking for.

So, a crossing gate system where all the components come in one box and all play together right out of the box.

I've got all the subway trains I need, but few are in production.  It would be nice to see some from systems other than NYC, too.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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