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Unit Trains
Posted by caldreamer on Monday, July 17, 2017 8:23 PM

Has any one else built and are running unit trains?  I am finishing building my 23 car N scale rock train.   I am using two bay fifty ton capacity hoppers, most of which are of the peaked end variety.  Any unit train that you have I would like to hear from you.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, July 17, 2017 8:40 PM

I have 11 of the old Tyco/Mantua operating clamshell door hoppers.  I usually run them as a unit train, even though that's not really a lot of cars.  It's the right size train for my layout, though.

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Posted by ckape on Monday, July 17, 2017 8:57 PM

It doesn't really fit my normal modeling focus, but I have a DM&IR ore train that I like to run at the club for open houses, and occasionally just when I feel like it.  Setting it up gets to be a chore, though.

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Posted by 7j43k on Monday, July 17, 2017 9:05 PM

I've got some BN and BNSF Bethgon unit coal trains--100 cars isn't a problem, if there's a layout that will take them.

And also a short-ish coil steel trail:  24-36 cars.

 

 

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, July 17, 2017 9:20 PM

 I have 2, one of all things is a 32 Tyco Old Dutch Hopper 50 foot cars. All so a 34 B&O Coal Train.

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Posted by marksrailroad on Monday, July 17, 2017 9:40 PM
I've got a Norfolk & Western 2-8-8-2 and caboose that I use to pull twelve coal hoppers. It sounds a bit short but looks long on my small layout...
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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Monday, July 17, 2017 9:47 PM

I have the equipment for a couple (albeit layout length - read short) unit Intermodal (Well cars and Spine cars) trains, and a decent sized unit coal drag. (NS Hoppers)

I'm working towards a layout sized unit tank train as well, but am not quite there yet...

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, July 17, 2017 10:01 PM

I run a unit trash train, 20 cars, which is long for my small layout,

and a unit frac sand train, which is 24 cars long,

Currently working a TOFC train, using spine cars, witha few long flats, which will be 20 cars long.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Monday, July 17, 2017 11:04 PM

Two identical unit trains, one loaded, one empty, Tomikawa Tani Tetsudo six and seven axle articulated hoppers with a four axle brake van on each end.

Identical numbers on one side, a different set of identical numbers on the other side.  The track arrangement that allows an empties in/loads out at the colliery is, schematically, a wye, so the opposite side of the train shows up every other cycle.  When they meet on visible track each has different numbers.

These are short trains, not Powder River monsters; sized to match the prototype trains and siding lengths I recorded in Japan over half a century ago.  The cars are all kitbashes of no acknowledged parentage.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)

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Posted by steemtrayn on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:17 AM

tomikawaTT

Two identical unit trains, one loaded, one empty, Tomikawa Tani Tetsudo six and seven axle articulated hoppers with a four axle brake van on each end.

Identical numbers on one side, a different set of identical numbers on the other side.  The track arrangement that allows an empties in/loads out at the colliery is, schematically, a wye, so the opposite side of the train shows up every other cycle.  When they meet on visible track each has different numbers.

These are short trains, not Powder River monsters; sized to match the prototype trains and siding lengths I recorded in Japan over half a century ago.  The cars are all kitbashes of no acknowledged parentage.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)

 

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Posted by joe323 on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:38 AM

I guess you can call my 6 car Tropicana train a unit train but the SiW is way too small to run real unit trains

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:42 AM

Sure, so far have the following unit trains ran by the D&RGW in the 1970's, from memory:

- Kaiser joint UP/D&RGW coal train Thrall gon's - 35 cars
- CSDPU 5-bay Ortner coal train - 32 cars
- Northern Indiana Power & Light NORX Thrall gon coal train - 25 cars
- Public Service cal PSCX Thrall coal train - 25 cars
- D&RGW Thrall gons (blue end) - 25 cars
- D&RGW Bethlehem quads (ExactRail) - 29 cars
- D&RGW Bethlehem quads (Walthers) - 35 cars

 

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Posted by dstarr on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:12 AM

A solid coal drag on my layout.  34 hopper cars with loads.  AHM Berkshire on point.  Its my only really long train, it far exceeds the lenght of my passing sidings. 

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:34 PM

Just a reminder that a 'unit train' isn't just a train where all the cars happen to be the same type. Unit train means the cars in the train are treated as one unit - they're hauled empty to a site to pick up say coal, then returned and unloaded as a unit at a power plant, usually with a loading/unloading balloon track at each end. There normally is no individual switching of cars in and out of train. 50 BN bathtub gons going back and forth together from the Powder River Basin to a power plant and back is a unit train; 50 refrigerator cars from various owners / lessors going from Los Angeles to Chicago on a Santa Fe reefer express isn't.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:41 PM

wjstix

Just a reminder that a 'unit train' isn't just a train where all the cars happen to be the same type. Unit train means the cars in the train are treated as one unit - they're hauled empty to a site to pick up say coal, then returned and unloaded as a unit at a power plant, usually with a loading/unloading balloon track at each end. There normally is no individual switching of cars in and out of train. 50 BN bathtub gons going back and forth together from the Powder River Basin to a power plant and back is a unit train; 50 refrigerator cars from various owners / lessors going from Los Angeles to Chicago on a Santa Fe reefer express isn't.

Yep.

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Posted by angelob6660 on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:49 PM

The longest unit trains I have are.

1.) Coal A mix of 90 ton 3 bay hoppers in ATAF, BN, and BNSF. loaded with coal. A few Bethgon coalporters in BNSF and Union Pacific 16-18 cars.

2.) Intermodal 8 TTX 89' flatcars with 45-48' trailers. (5) 3-5 unit well cars with containers.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:19 PM

marksrailroad
I've got a Norfolk & Western 2-8-8-2 and caboose that I use to pull twelve coal hoppers. It sounds a bit short but looks long on my small layout...
 

Actually prototypical for late 1950s mine runs to a small mine.  There is a GSVP N&W frieght trains video that shows this.  

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Posted by jjdamnit on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:21 PM

Hello all,

I've collected 30 of the Tyco Operating Hoppers.

They have been upgraded to Kadee trucks and body mounted couplers.

With a 4-unit GP40 consist I could only fit twenty-six of these cars on the "mainline" of my 4'x8' pike.

It was "nose-to-tail" and was quite ridiculous.

Typically I run a 2-unit consist of GP30s; with a GP30 helper on the end with eight hoppers that serve the upper unloading platform.

Sixteen hoppers are then pulled by the 4-unit GP40 consist under the loading platform to receive the discharge.

Hope this helps.

"Uhh...I didn’t know it was 'impossible' I just made it work...sorry"

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Posted by j. c. on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:35 PM

at modular club i run 110 PK2 PS2 covered hoppers pulled by 4 proto 1000 f units or 3 PK2 SD's with a cab.

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Posted by ATSFGuy on Thursday, July 20, 2017 5:55 PM

I'm working on putting together a Intermodal train, It will have the following;

 

 Athearn Genesis SD75M SF #232 (facing forwards)

 Athearn Genesis SD75M SF #226 (facing backwards)

 Athearn RTR SD40-2 SF #5031 (facing forwards)

 20 Athearn Maxi III Well 5 - Unit cars lettered for TTX with 48 containers in each one

 6  Athearn 57' Spine 3 - Unit cars behind the double stacks with 53' trailers or 53' chassis's

A FRED on the end of the last spine car.

 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, July 21, 2017 9:07 AM

ATSFGuy

I'm working on putting together a Intermodal train, It will have the following;

 

 Athearn Genesis SD75M SF #232 (facing forwards)

 Athearn Genesis SD75M SF #226 (facing backwards)

 Athearn RTR SD40-2 SF #5031 (facing forwards)

Of course diesel consists were almost never the same so you can vary how that MU consist is arranged, and mix and match a bit.  Just sayin...

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Posted by dti406 on Friday, July 21, 2017 9:48 AM

Here is my 36 Car Ore Jimmy train that used to run from the Whiskey Island Docks in Cleveland to the Steel Mills in Pittsburgh. Power is Alco C628 & C630 Diesels.

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Posted by caldreamer on Friday, July 21, 2017 2:40 PM

Here is a picture of my completed 23 car N scale rock train.  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gsrrman/35230464644/in/dateposted-public/ 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 28, 2017 9:41 PM

You can see my unit grain train being sideswiped in this video (not my video): 

https://youtu.be/oNiSSMzRDKs?t=405

 

The box car on the end holds the Fred, I had not yet put a fred on a covered hopper.

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Posted by carl425 on Friday, July 28, 2017 9:55 PM

Do you make sure all the cars have different road numbers or aren't bothered by duplicates? (no wrong answer, just curious)

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 28, 2017 10:01 PM

carl425

Do you make sure all the cars have different road numbers or aren't bothered by duplicates? (no wrong answer, just curious)

 

I have no rolling stock with duplicate road numbers.  Most are accurail cars, so that is pretty easy to do.  I carry a list when I go train shopping at shows and so forth, so I dont pick up duplicates.

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Posted by ckape on Saturday, July 29, 2017 1:19 AM

For my ore train they are almost all unique numbers.  Walthers had actually made the exact number of different cars that I had wanted, but I was unable to track one of the old runs down so I doubled up on a different set to get the right amount of cars.  I don't think anyone has noticed.

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Posted by Metrolink on Saturday, July 29, 2017 3:15 AM

I love unit-trains! Most of my trains are unit-trains:

• 31K crude-oil tank train: 40+ cars (will be buying 30+ more soon).
• Railbox unit-train: 40+ cars.
• Military train: mixed (pre-ordering 16 DODX MTL 150-ton flats with M1A1 loads).
• FedEx spine-car train: 25 cars complete with Trainworx FedEx trailers.
• Double-stack: very short (only 11 articulated well-cars).

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Posted by nealknows on Saturday, July 29, 2017 7:56 AM

I run 3 types of unit trains. I have two 20 car Intermodal trains which switch out at the Intermodal facility; two 14 car auto rack trains, which are really long on a 20'x20' HO scale layout. They head right to the auto rack termianl to be switched; and I have my two Tropicana Juice Trains. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py2Brn8sa5A

In addition, when I'm hosting an operating session, I have an 18 car TTX Box car train that will be given to someone who has never operated on the layout. I send them all over so they familiarize themselves with running a train for the the first time during a session. It makes no stops, starts and ends in staging. It's a great looking train, and powered by a Kato SD90MAC. A real beast!

Neal

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