ATLANTIC CENTRAL any prototype built after 1954 (well nothing real obvious anyway) Would a 58 Chevy Bel Air be too obvious? Cheers, a wondering Bear.
ATLANTIC CENTRAL any prototype built after 1954 (well nothing real obvious anyway)
I cheated a little. My freelanced railroad is set in 1956, but due to a lack of variety in 1950s vehicles, I've put a few CMW 1959 Fords on the layout. The fins still say 1950s even if they post date my setting by a few years. Also I have some Jade Green NYC boxcars and one set of the cigar-band diesels. I figure if I can create a completely fictional place, why can't I fudge a little on the details. It's not as if I'm having Shoeless Joe Jackson batting right handed.
Things that will never exist on the STRATTON & GILLETTE:
1: Code 100 Rail
2: Automobiles built after 1954
3: Real water in the lakes and streams
4: Prototype roadnames
5: Off center cupola cabooses
6: Locomotives pulling more than 10 cars around the layout
7: A night scene
8: Little pink houses, none for you, none for me
9: Brass rail
10: An airplane
11: Anything harder than PG
12: Curve Radiuses sharper than 24 inches
13: Manual switches
14: Plastic wheels on freight cars
15: Metal wheels on cabooses
16: A wreck scene
17: Scale couplers
18: Sound from the trains
19: Forced perspective
20: Photo reallistic backdrops
-Kevin
Living the dream.
No flying saucers, aliens or dinosaurs.
No Matchbox or Hot Wheels cars. No race cars of any size.
If there is an inadequately clothed young lady in a window, there is a window shade or curtain. It's up to her to close it.
No "dummy" street lights, traffic lights or railroad signals. They all work.
No glowing structures.
No buildings on fire.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
SeeYou19014: Plastic wheels on freight cars 15: Metal wheels on cabooses
I don't get it. Please explain.
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
Sidenote,
I display 1/64 vehicles on the club layout, usually on the Orange Grove corner and the Route 66 corner.
I have Hotwheels, Matchbox, Johnny Lightning, and a few Greenlight cars.
The cars are selected by me personally. I may sometimes upload photos in the diner to show them off.
A Botchmann Car or Locomotive!
Rick Jesionowski
Rule 1: This is my railroad.
Rule 2: I make the rules.
Rule 3: Illuminating discussion of prototype history, equipment and operating practices is always welcome, but in the event of visitor-perceived anacronisms, detail descrepancies or operating errors, consult RULE 1!
SeeYou1904: Prototype roadnames
19: Forced perspective20: Photo realistic backdrops
MisterBeasleyIf there is an inadequately clothed young lady in a window, there is a window shade or curtain. It's up to her to close it.
dti406 A Botchmann Car or Locomotive! Rick Jesionowski
Well Rick, I don't know what era or roads you model, or what type of equipment interests you, but prejudging Bachmann today based on some product from 25 years ago might be somewhat short sighted.
And, just for the record, I would be posting this same response if you were bashing Athearn, or BLI, or most any brand.
Judging all the products from a company based on their past failings would pretty much rule out the whole industry......
I have 35 Spectrum steam locomotives that all run great. I only have a few Bachmann diesels, as most of their line does not fit my era or detail requirements.
But my GE 44 Tonners and 70 Tonners run just fine.
And the word is the new diesels run very nice, even if they are a little light in the detail department.
Understand this about Bachmann - first of all, their parent makes half the stuff you think is so good from those other companies.......and Bachmann offers products to every level and price point in the hobby, so not every product in their line will be a match for every modelers needs or standards. But their quality today is very good.
You know what you will never see on my layout? Despite their high quality? - Kato or Atlas diesels - because they make so few in my 1st generation era, they are expensive and hard to get (I hate preordering), and they are not that much better, if any better, than my fleet of 60 Proto2000 diesels of various types.
Most of my fleet of Protos were bought for less that $40 each.........no sound or DCC here.
Sheldon
BigDaddy14: Plastic wheels on freight cars 15: Metal wheels on cabooses I don't get it. Please explain.
I prefer to use only Kadee freight car trucks with metal wheels. I have used them exclusively since I switched to HO scale, and they have given perfect performance. Kadee has earned my loyalty with a wonderful product. So, no plastic wheels on freight cars.
All my cabooses are brass models. I had 19" radius hidden curves on the previous "spare bedroom SGRR layout", and had intermittent short circuit issues. I finally traced the problems to the cabooses. The metal wheels would contact steps or other details on tight radius cruves, and create a short circuit through the caboose brass body. I switched them all out to plastic wheels and the problem was solved. So, no metal wheels on caboose models.
Sorry there was nothing more dramatic or groundbreaking in the answer.
chutton014: Prototype roadnames - Wait - not even for interchanged rolling stock? That seems odd and a bit off. 7: A night scene - Do you have mini-lights installed, or did you mean the nightclub scene? 19: Forced perspective & 20: Photo realistic backdrops
7: A night scene - Do you have mini-lights installed, or did you mean the nightclub scene?
19: Forced perspective & 20: Photo realistic backdrops
I have lots of foreign road equipment that gets interchanged, just none painted for prototype roadnames. The real world is forbidden on the STRATTON AND GILLETTE world of nonsense. I painted and decalled every single piece of equipment except for five. Those five are NMRA Heritage models of the Gorre and Daphetid, Delta Lines, and Sunset Navigation Railway, and I also have two of the Fox Valley B&O Wagon Top Boxcar models for the Midland Road. If I can someday get Tony Koester to part with a set of black decals for the 1950's Midland Road, I have an Overland Brass B&O Wagon Top covered hopper ready for them!
Someday I hope to score a big collection of Rail Graphics decals someone had made for a real cool roadname, and that will become the main railroad the SGRR will interchange with.
I can photograph a night scene, no problem. What I meant is that I will not build a scene that only looks good as a night scene. I should have clarified that better. A miniature scene modeled specifically as night scene will require light-source highlighting and a different color pallet so they photograph better. These can be very dramatic, but they clash with the rest of the layout.
I have never been able to make forced perspective look right to my eye. I give up.
Photo reallistic backdrops looks great, but I prefer the backdrop to be more simple. This allows the layout to be the star. Again, this is just for my eye and not a suggestion to anyone else.
chutton01I have several adult nude female figure from a Presier set, and thru the magic of thick craft paint now sport shorts and t-shirts, while a number of the ladies are wearing "cut-off" shorts and bikini tops.
I also like the Preiser nude figures as a starting point.
The Citadel Liquid Green Stuff brushes on a little more thick, but dries very smooth. The Gunze "Mr. Surfacer 500" has a little more toothy texture.
I have also sculpted dresses onto nude females using PSI Kneadatite, which works very well.
1. No plastic structures. All my structures will be scratchbuilt using wood from local trees, metal, glass, stone from local quarries and beaches, glue, and paint.
2. No cork or plastic roadbeds. All my roadbeds will be constructed from processed local stone, processed local sand, and glue.
3. No plastic vegetation. All trees, grasses, etc. will be made from suitable local vegetation which will be processed to remove unwanted items (eg. bugs, bacteria) then dyed or painted.
4. No graffiti anywhere.
5. No straight tracks.
ATLANTIC CENTRAL dti406 A Botchmann Car or Locomotive! Rick Jesionowski Well Rick, I don't know what era or roads you model, or what type of equipment interests you, but prejudging Bachmann today based on some product from 25 years ago might be somewhat short sighted. And, just for the record, I would be posting this same response if you were bashing Athearn, or BLI, or most any brand. Judging all the products from a company based on their past failings would pretty much rule out the whole industry...... I have 35 Spectrum steam locomotives that all run great. I only have a few Bachmann diesels, as most of their line does not fit my era or detail requirements. But my GE 44 Tonners and 70 Tonners run just fine. And the word is the new diesels run very nice, even if they are a little light in the detail department. Understand this about Bachmann - first of all, their parent makes half the stuff you think is so good from those other companies.......and Bachmann offers products to every level and price point in the hobby, so not every product in their line will be a match for every modelers needs or standards. But their quality today is very good. You know what you will never see on my layout? Despite their high quality? - Kato or Atlas diesels - because they make so few in my 1st generation era, they are expensive and hard to get (I hate preordering), and they are not that much better, if any better, than my fleet of 60 Proto2000 diesels of various types. Most of my fleet of Protos were bought for less that $40 each.........no sound or DCC here. Sheldon
I would agree with your assessment of the Spectrum line which are a couple notches above their standard line but I would agree with the poster about their standard line. Unfortunately Bachmann has made the decision to phase out the Spectrum brand and market everything under the standard line and that makes it impossible to distingusih the quality merchandise from the junk. I simply won't purchase anything from Bachmann that isn't Spectrum which means I won't be buying anything new from them.
NYBW-John ATLANTIC CENTRAL dti406 A Botchmann Car or Locomotive! Rick Jesionowski Well Rick, I don't know what era or roads you model, or what type of equipment interests you, but prejudging Bachmann today based on some product from 25 years ago might be somewhat short sighted. And, just for the record, I would be posting this same response if you were bashing Athearn, or BLI, or most any brand. Judging all the products from a company based on their past failings would pretty much rule out the whole industry...... I have 35 Spectrum steam locomotives that all run great. I only have a few Bachmann diesels, as most of their line does not fit my era or detail requirements. But my GE 44 Tonners and 70 Tonners run just fine. And the word is the new diesels run very nice, even if they are a little light in the detail department. Understand this about Bachmann - first of all, their parent makes half the stuff you think is so good from those other companies.......and Bachmann offers products to every level and price point in the hobby, so not every product in their line will be a match for every modelers needs or standards. But their quality today is very good. You know what you will never see on my layout? Despite their high quality? - Kato or Atlas diesels - because they make so few in my 1st generation era, they are expensive and hard to get (I hate preordering), and they are not that much better, if any better, than my fleet of 60 Proto2000 diesels of various types. Most of my fleet of Protos were bought for less that $40 each.........no sound or DCC here. Sheldon I would agree with your assessment of the Spectrum line which are a couple notches above their standard line but I would agree with the poster about their standard line. Unfortunately Bachmann has made the decision to phase out the Spectrum brand and market everything under the standard line and that makes it impossible to distingusih the quality merchandise from the junk. I simply won't purchase anything from Bachmann that isn't Spectrum which means I won't be buying anything new from them.
Respectfully, what you are failing to realize is the that nearly the intire regular line has been retooled in the last 5-10 years, and that new newer items in the regular line, like the NKP/C&O Berkshire, were introduced with drivelines equal to the Spectrum line, with just slightly less detail.
And that items like the 2-8-0 are still exactly the same, even though they are no longer in a "Spectrum" box.
NYBW-JohnBachmann has made the decision to phase out the Spectrum brand and market everything under the standard line and that makes it impossible to distingusih the quality merchandise from the junk. I simply won't purchase anything from Bachmann that isn't Spectrum which means I won't be buying anything new from them.
I think you may be looking in the wrong direction..DCC on board seems to be their "Spectrum" of late. My Bachmann DCC/Sound Alco S-4 is a very good engine.
Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!"
Well, I guess its my turn.......... Ha, I actually have an operating layout so I'm telling it like it is, not wishful thinking or projecting...... Anyway, on my 1950s era layout you won't see.........
- locos/cars/autos built beyond 1960
- prisons, jails or police stations
- vagrants, slums, or poverty
- burning or damaged structures
- out of place/reason industries (i.e. West Virginia type coal mine on the Texas plains)
- solar systems, dinosaurs, static models of "The General", or other nonsense type additions.
ENJOY !
Mobilman44
Living in southeast Texas, formerly modeling the "postwar" Santa Fe and Illinois Central
BRAKIE NYBW-John Bachmann has made the decision to phase out the Spectrum brand and market everything under the standard line and that makes it impossible to distingusih the quality merchandise from the junk. I simply won't purchase anything from Bachmann that isn't Spectrum which means I won't be buying anything new from them. I think you may be looking in the wrong direction..DCC on board seems to be their "Spectrum" of late. My Bachmann DCC/Sound Alco S-4 is a very good engine.
NYBW-John Bachmann has made the decision to phase out the Spectrum brand and market everything under the standard line and that makes it impossible to distingusih the quality merchandise from the junk. I simply won't purchase anything from Bachmann that isn't Spectrum which means I won't be buying anything new from them.
It does amaze me sometimes how people are about "names" and fancy packages.
Like somehow the Bachmann 2-8-0 magicly became lessor quality when they stopped putting it in a big fancy box. It would make no sense from a manufacturing standpoint to "cheapen" the quailty. Any retooling to cheapen the model would cost more than any production savings they could realize.
What they did was smarter, they "cheapened" the part that does not matter - the box. Does the box run or your layout? Or just boost your ego because it is big and expensive looking like a brass loco box?
And by making the box smaller, they also saved on shipping, keeping costs down in an ever inflating global market.........
They also found that a great percentage of the market was actually happy with just a "little" less detail. So the newer steam, the 2-8-4, 2-6-0, 2-8-2 and 4-6-2 are reasonably well detailed, just not quite old "Spectrum" level, but with drive lines equal to any older Spectrum.
In fact, the Bachmann 2-8-4 has more correct and better road specific details than the MTH model..........
Well what has Broadway Limited done? Generic 2-8-2, 4-6-2, 2-8-0 with less and/or molded on detail, and not one small road specific detail change on any version. Bachmann can at least manage correct trailing trucks, different headlight locations, different tender versions.......guess they are all seeing the same trends in the market........
Except for a couple handrails on the tender, and no deck plate between the engine and tender, my regular line Bachmann 2-8-4's (converted to freelance heavy 2-8-2's) are every bit as nice as my Spectrum 4-8-2, 2-6-6-2, 2-8-8-4, 2-10-2, 4-6-0, etc.
One of my five Mikado conversions before the paint shop:
I added some weight, changed some details, added a bridge plate.....
You are all most welcome to pay more for those big glossy BLI and MTH boxes......
Like my daddy once said, A Caddilac is just a big Chevy with power windows and power seats - and in that business, if any of you had any idea how many different cars were/are build from the exact same parts........
I've enjoyed reading everyone's submission so now I guess it's my turn to have a go. For context, I am modeling the Santa Fe transcon in NW Oklahoma in 1964 using Garrison Keillor's "Mist County" method; i.e. stereotypical but fictional locations/scenes inspired by actual prototypes.
1. Any cute little scene ever marketed by Woodland Scenics.
2. Any other cute little scene that might give Woodland Scenics ideas.
3. An outhouse, even if not part of a cute little scene, with a crescent moon on the door.
4. Any kind of luxury car, such as Cadillac or Lincoln, or any import at all except for VW Beetles and maybe a minibus. I wish someone would make a Rambler.
5. Taxi, ambulance, fire vehicles, or city-style delivery trucks.
6. Plastic wheels on rolling stock.
7. Onboard sound (because even if I completely change my mind someday and retrofit my 40+ locomotives, you still won't see it!)
8. Anyone fishing, swimming, or boating in that certainly polluted and possibly hazard-filled waterway under the railroad bridge.
And finally, given my current rate of progress:
9. Fully finished scenery end-to-end.
10. Half of my steamer trunk full of unbuilt kits.
This topic was brought up in another thread, so I thought it was worth another look... sorry Rich... I am bringing back another one.
I need to revisit my original list... a lot has changed in three years. I also want to hear from new members in our group. I was very new when I posted my list.
I Revisited my list of things that will never exist on the STRATTON & GILLETTE:
I have since discovered I will have two staging tracks with the capacity for 12 car trains!
100% change on this one. I will absolutely have lighted buildings and night scenes.
For the branchline I will drop down to 22 inches, and 18 in the industrial area.
I have since decided it is better to modify the caboose underframes and use Kadee trucks and metal wheels.
"Things you will never see on my ho layout".
the old train man 7 a wye in a tunnel 8 a spur track in a tunnel 9 a turntable in a tunnel
7 a wye in a tunnel
8 a spur track in a tunnel
9 a turntable in a tunnel
Yeah, but just because we can't see them in the tunnel, that's no guarantee that they're not there.
Probably the worst thing anybody could have seen on my layout would have been me, laying on the upper level of the layout at the far end of this aisle, painting the rails with a brush...
There's all sorts of stuff on my layout that shouldn't be there, but since nobody can come to visit, nobody's gonna see it unless I post pictures of it.
On the other hand, nude women would be welcome if they wanted to drop in to run some trains. I'm no prude.
Wayne
Not on my railway.
Any tunnels. The Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway Company only built tunnels as a last resort. The line from Earlsheaton Junction to Leeds Sovereign Street was on low ground. Even the line to Wetherby bypassed the hills to the west of the built line.
Locomotives running out of era. The LMS locomotives (bar 1) are all preserved so can run as steam specials.
Out of era scenes. The scenes portrayed on the layout have to be in the right timeframe.
No DCC. Do not understand it nor want to
David
To the world you are someone. To someone you are the world
I cannot afford the luxury of a negative thought
SeeYou190This topic was brought up in another thread, so I thought it was worth another look... sorry Rich... I am bringing back another one.
And such an interesting topic it is!
Doesn't look like I responded the first time around, why start now?
Mike.
My You Tube
Things You Will Never See On My HO Layout(s):
1. Any prototype dating from after the Kennedy adminstration.
2. Residents who drink cheap domestic beer. They have to drink high-end cocktails, or they don't get to live in the residential section.
3. Any structure that is not mid-century moderne, unless it is something like a tool shed.
4. Weathered cars, as size and distance take care of the weathering by themselves.
5. A NYC car on a PRR train.
6. A locomotive newer than an F unit.
7. Any locomotive or car that can't handle an 18" radius curve.
8. A spaghetti bowl track plan.
9. 1970s-era cheap plastic glossy Tyco or Life-Like kitsch.
10. Disasters, injuries, deaths, crimes, racism, UFOs, conspiracy theories, and the like.
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the old train man 1 spider webs on the mainline 18 telephone poles with scale working wires
1 spider webs on the mainline
18 telephone poles with scale working wires
Was just pondering this- I have been trying to train the spiders to string the telephone lines for years..........
Besides I live in the south some of our spiders are big enough to carry off a locomotive...... (well at least Z scale)
I'm going to try, since I thought I posted earlier but I didn't.
1. Automobile that fit the appropriate era timeframe. So no 1950s vehicles with modern one vise verse.
2. Change a building or station that no longer exists.
3. Maxi-Stack containers in the correct period. Like in Sea Land or Neptune in the 20-- and written websites in the 90s. Just because the container didn't change in 90s doesn't mean the internet really exist for normal people. Who couldn't afford it.
4. Freight cars and locomotives that no longer exist.
5. No superheroes, Godzilla, etc. I love Vicki Vale and Daphne Blake in cameo but nothing else.
More later I hope.
Amtrak America, 1971-Present.
The M4A3 (76) HVSS was the backbone of reserve formations until around 1956, a few units got used M46's as replacements, but most got the tail end of the M47 production run. As far as the 105mm goes, I presume you are talking about the WW2 vintage M2, which was gradually replaced in the Regular Army during Vietnam by the M102. In spite of that, I remember firing the M101 (as the M2 was renamed) in 1962 in 1973 at ROTC Advanced Camp at Ft Riley. I'm not sure how long it lingered with reserve outfits - maybe into the Eighties.
(2) A Sherman is hit by an express train in Barberton, Ohio in 1951. 3 of the 6 crew were crushed to death, and the train was derailed. : DestroyedTanks (reddit.com)
Oh, I'll chime in here. Not on my layout:
Whimsey? Not on purpose.
Accidents? Also not on purpose. They happen sometimes, usually operator error.
Locomotives that don't run smooth. They HAVE to run smoothly. I just finally relegated a cog belt Bachmann 2-8-0 to the deadline. (Not picking on Bachmann, I got it years ago used and abused, who knows it's history. Maybe made it worse myself.) It looks too good to hide, and I do have a railroad owned deadline-scrap yard I want well detailed. Which also brings up...
(no) Solid lump cast junkpiles
UFOs, bigfoot, dinosaurs. Aircraft hanging motionless. Frozen action scenes like water skiing, swing sets with the person up in the air, etc.
Anything out of scale; Hot Wheels,etc. No forced Perspective 3-d items.
No commercially made turnouts. I can make 'em faster and FAR cheaper in code 70 than finding and ordering. No code 100 except in hidden stage. No plastic wheels. No brass track. Real Kadees, no copycats.
Any of the banned-from-forum-discussion or offensive subject items. Probably some other little things too. Dan
Cats.
Rio Grande. The Action Road - Focus 1977-1983
steemtraynA single track main that goes double just as it enters a tunnel.
I might end up with this situation. It is a compromise. There is an area where I want two hidden staging tracks, and would rather not have the turnout hidden inside of the tunnel.
cowmanWW II tank can be a static display in a memorial park. I have a 105 mm howitzer, if I ever get the layout going to put a park on.
If I put any military vehicle on display on the layout (which I 99% will not), it will either be a 1944 model of a T-34/85, or a 1910 Baldwin Steam-Tank from AQotMF.
I have not assembled and painted mine yet, but it is an impressive model.