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Please suggest replacement couplers for Athearn Metrolink Bombardier coaches

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Please suggest replacement couplers for Athearn Metrolink Bombardier coaches
Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:37 PM

Please suggest replacement couplers for Athearn Metrolink Bombardier coaches. The stock couplers come uncoupled too often when I reverse directions. I would normally use Kadee #5 but I want to know if there is something better.

Thanks

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Posted by dstarr on Saturday, November 12, 2016 4:53 PM

Go with Kadee's.  Assuming your railroad is into knuckle couplers.  Kadee was the first, and the Kadee clones cost as much as real Kadee's.  Why buy clones when you can get the real thing for the same money?  You do want to check the Kadee what-fits-what list on the Kadee website. Although you can warp a #5 Kadee into anything, you can save a lot of hacking, filing, and cussing, if you purchase the recommended Kadee coupler from the list.

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, November 12, 2016 5:01 PM

Kadee recommends a plain old #5, or a #148 if you don't want to hassle with the spring.

http://www.kadee.com/conv/hocc_athearn_rtr.htm

There are some other options too. You can find out what the alternate couplers are here:

http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/HO-Scale%20Couplers.htm

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, November 12, 2016 6:05 PM

When I replaced the drawbar between my Broadway Limited Baldwin centipedes, somewhere I came across a suggestion to use Kadee SF or SE couplers (I don't exactly remember which) but they act like a "Tightlock" passenger coupler and do not allow vertical movement.

I "think" they were the #118 SF type coupler. If you have room for them these might be a good choice. Kadee says either the top or bottom "shelf" can be filed off if they interfere.

If I recall correctly, the #119 is geared to represent the shelf type coupler used on modern tank cars and not the ones you would want. I can't seem to find out exactly what the difference is between them but they might be a good choice if false uncoupling is your problem. [edit] Yes, the #118 is like the type F Tightlock coupler for passenger cars, it has the "lug and pocket" on either side of the knuckle.

http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page118.htm

My Kato bi-level cars have nice "Tightlock" couplers but I'm not sure if they would fit anything other than Kato cars. They are a pain to separate, too!

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Posted by ATSFGuy on Monday, November 14, 2016 12:17 PM

The Kadee coupler chart says #148 or #5 couplers will work with the bombardier cars. Try those and see what happens.

If you want, you can also swap out the plastic couplers on the locomotive for metal ones, that way the train won't uncouple when going around curves.

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Monday, November 14, 2016 1:04 PM
Thank you all. I think #148 is the answer I was looking for. I always try to use Kadee couplers because the plastic ones fail.
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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Monday, November 14, 2016 1:07 PM

ATSFGuy
If you want, you can also swap out the plastic couplers on the locomotive for metal ones, that way the train won't uncouple when going around curves.

That is mandatory for me. Locomotives are too rough on couplers for anything but Kadee's. Cool

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Monday, December 12, 2016 9:48 PM

Now I am thinking about maybe trying Kadee 158 scale couplers. Has anyone tried these? Would you recommend?

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, December 12, 2016 10:00 PM

Hi, Lone Wolf

Your original problem was unwanted uncoupling. I suggested the #118 Tightlocks. I have used these where a more secure connection was desired. I had some A-B Life-Like E8s that the draft gear would not align well (as pull between the engines changed they would "ride up") and the #118s fixed that.

The #158s are about a third smaller than the standard head. You have to have very reliable draft gear and smooth track with very little transition on approach to grades.

If you had uncoupling problems with the stock couplers I don't see where Scale Size heads will help.

Maybe others have a different opinion.

Good Luck, Ed

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