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Posted by Howard Zane on Monday, August 8, 2016 2:42 PM

Just a passing thought...anyone know of any politicians running for national office who are model rails? I cannot think of any ever in our history back to 1900 and the beginning of Lionel.

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Posted by tin can on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 9:06 AM

Bush the 41st likes trains, but I don't think he could be considered a model railroader.  Our modular railroad group set up at his presidential library a while back.  And the UP lettered and named a locomotive in his honor.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 9:39 AM

I am not aware any of our chancellors ever confessed to be a model railroader, but some of them could have been. Frau Merkel certainly not.

One of our state governors, Horst Seehofer from Bavaria, is an avid model railroader and even had a TV home story made about his layout.

Politics and model railroading certainly don´t mix well, but music/arts and model railroading apparently does, looking at the number of celebrities having had their "coming out" as model railroaders.

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Posted by mobilman44 on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 9:42 AM

Hi!

I thought I read once that Harry Truman "liked toy trains" but I'm not certain of it.  In any case, if the wanna be chiefs took up the hobby and actually built a layout, the country would be much, much better off!

ENJOY  !

 

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Posted by ctyclsscs on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 9:57 AM

I can hear it now:

"This scratch on the Oval Office desk is when Gerald Ford slipped while trying to push on an Athearn metal coupler cover."

"This mark is where Richard Nixon spilled some Testor's cement while assembling an Atlas Crossing Shanty kit.

"These saw marks are where LBJ cut stripwood to length for a Campbell Models kit"

Big Smile

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Posted by Eric White on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 10:03 AM

Wasn't Spacemouse going to run for president?

I thought I saw that on Jeffrey's tagline.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 10:11 AM

Eric White
I thought I saw that on Jeffrey's tagline.

Eric, you are quite right - his signature read (among other things) "Spacemouse for President"!

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Posted by LensCapOn on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:00 AM

So this wasn't about puting lawn signs up on your layout?

 

 

(so sad!)

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Posted by NVSRR on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:11 AM

Biden  the vice president into trains.  Not sure to what extent

A pessimist sees a dark tunnel

An optimist sees the light at the end of the tunnel

A realist sees a frieght train

An engineer sees three idiots standing on the tracks stairing blankly in space

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Posted by Steven Otte on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:19 AM

So you know, folks... because this thread has the word "politicians" in its subject line, I'll be keeping a close eye on it, and will be less tolerant of off-topic deviations than usual. Talk all you want about political figures' affection for model trains, but do not get into forbidden territory of discussing other aspects of those politicians or your opinions on them. Thanks in advance.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:34 AM

LensCapOn

So this wasn't about puting lawn signs up on your layout?

 

 

(so sad!)

 

I wonder if thats ever been modeled for the mayor of our modeled town or city?

I recall seeing a photo of a Athearn observation(complete with red,white and blue blunting) with a president  candidate on the platform with a group of wee figures standing behind it.

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Posted by yougottawanta on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:51 AM

Steve - Do you all know of any ?

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:53 AM

Preiser of Germany offers a few HO scale politicians, historical persons as well as current, including the current President of the US and Pope Francis.

I have to admit that I´d like to see some of them reduced to this size, makes them more "manageable" - for our layouts, of course, nothing else intended.

 

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:57 PM

VP Biden is a big supporter of 'real' trains; while in the US Senate, he rode the train to and from Delaware every day. There have been some US public officials that have been photographed with toy or model trains (like while touring the Lionel plant) but not sure of any who actually were modellers or collectors.

FWIW legend has it that Hermann Goehring had an extensive O-tinplate layout / collection, mostly Marklin I would assume. Don't know that it's ever been proved.

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Posted by Geared Steam on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 1:13 PM

Steven Otte

So you know, folks... because this thread has the word "politicians" in its subject line, I'll be keeping a close eye on it, and will be less tolerant of off-topic deviations than usual. Talk all you want about political figures' affection for model trains, but do not get into forbidden territory of discussing other aspects of those politicians or your opinions on them. Thanks in advance.

 

Darn, I can think of a hundred jokes to reply with........Smile, Wink & Grin

 

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Posted by GP-9_Man11786 on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 1:17 PM

BRAKIE

 

 That actually sounds like a really good idea for those modeling a specific year.
LensCapOn

So this wasn't about puting lawn signs up on your layout?

 

 

(so sad!)

 

 

 

I wonder if thats ever been modeled for the mayor of our modeled town or city?

I recall seeing a photo of a Athearn observation(complete with red,white and blue blunting) with a president  candidate on the platform with a group of wee figures standing behind it.

 

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Posted by joe323 on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 1:38 PM

Model lawn signs would be appropriate this year.  I suppose I could photograph the signs and shrink them to HO scale.

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Posted by superbe on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 2:42 PM

joe323,

I have signs already saved on my computer I could send but I'm sure the lock would come out.

I attach them to e-mails going to people I like to aggravate. Big Smile

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Posted by Neil B. on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 4:51 PM

One of Al Kalmbach's close model railroad buddies was three-term Milwaukee Mayor Frank Zeidler. Reportedly, Zeidler had a big layout in his attic, I presume O scale. Zeidler was Milwaukee's mayor from 1948 to 1960. As a footnote, Zeidler's older brother Carl was elected mayor in 1940, joined the Navy, and died at sea during WWII.

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 5:09 PM

Biden is the only one I can think of. 

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These are the opinions of an under 35 , from the east end of, and modeling, the same section of the Wheeling and Lake Erie railway.  As well as a freelanced road (Austinville and Dynamite City railroad).  

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 5:34 PM

Steven Otte

So you know, folks... because this thread has the word "politicians" in its subject line, I'll be keeping a close eye on it, and will be less tolerant of off-topic deviations than usual. Talk all you want about political figures' affection for model trains, but do not get into forbidden territory of discussing other aspects of those politicians or your opinions on them. Thanks in advance.

 

I guess my question is, why do we even start threads like this? And, to what good end?  ConfusedConfused

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Posted by hardcoalcase on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 5:47 PM

The reason that so few policiticans are MR's is because they could never unify their base.  Imagine trying to get HO and N scalers together!  Or have Steam and Diesel fans in lock step.  Never would rivet counters vote with free-lancers. 

And this just scratches the surface... on it goes with eastern roads vs. western, narrow vs. standard, proto operators vs. toy train collectors..... Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Howard Zane on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 7:22 PM

richhotrain
 
Steven Otte

So you know, folks... because this thread has the word "politicians" in its subject line, I'll be keeping a close eye on it, and will be less tolerant of off-topic deviations than usual. Talk all you want about political figures' affection for model trains, but do not get into forbidden territory of discussing other aspects of those politicians or your opinions on them. Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

I guess my question is, why do we even start threads like this? And, to what good end?  ConfusedConfused

 

Simple reason for this thread. If any well known figure be it sports, entertainment or politics is into our hobby, it is certainly good for growth. I personally have met a few folks who entered the hobby after reading about Rod Stewarts really well done pike.

HZ

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Posted by retsignalmtr on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 7:51 PM

Why are you being so PC about politicians? Afraid they will stand you up against a sandbag wall? I think most of them are into railroading, railroading us into the poor house.

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Posted by JDL56 on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:35 PM

One thing politicans in the U.S. and Canada used to do was whistlestop tours by train. The last Canadian Prime Minister to do so was Pierre Trudeau (father of our current PM) in 1974. The last time a federal politican used a train was In 2008 when Green Party leader Elizabeth May travelled across Canada to meet voters. 

Read more about this on my blog at http://cprailmmsub.blogspot.ca/2015/11/canadian-and-us-elections-and-whistle.html

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Posted by JDL56 on Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:39 PM

And more from Canada about politicans and trains: Our former PM showed no love for VIA Rail, but he had fond memories of going to the railway yard with his dad as a kid.

Some of his "fondest memories are of walking to the old Leaside station with his father to watch trains come and go," one article put it. 

An article in the Toronto Star quoted Harper as saying: "I always remember going there. It's one of those moments when I could see my dad standing there just as if it was yesterday, and what I look at now is remembering how young he was."
 
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Posted by "JaBear" on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:11 AM

Railways have inspired art, music, films and  literature generally in a positive light, whereas  the few times that model railroading is mentioned, the principle participant is generally shown as, how shall I say, someone that you would not like living next door especially if you had kids.
 
So while many of us got into the hobby for our own selfish reasons and couldn’t care less that others may wonder at grown men playing with their train set, I can understand, and it certainly doesn’t hurt the hobby, those who need some form of legitimism by way of endorsement from the likes of Rod Stewart or Neil Young or other celebrities.
 
However while I’m an optimist, I’m also a terrible cynic and I can’t see any politicians of any ilk that I would rate as celebrities, so if none are into this great hobby, that’s a good endorsement in its self!!

wjstix
FWIW legend has it that Hermann Goehring had an extensive O-tinplate layout / collection, mostly Marklin I would assume. Don't know that it's ever been proved.

This may add some light......
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Posted by Steven Otte on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 9:00 AM

Thread has been cleaned up to remove off-topic posts that I very specifically warned you to avoid. One participant earned himself a three-day suspension. I hope the chuckles were worth it.

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Posted by mlehman on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 9:10 AM

Neil B.
One of Al Kalmbach's close model railroad buddies was three-term Milwaukee Mayor Frank Zeidler. Reportedly, Zeidler had a big layout in his attic, I presume O scale. Zeidler was Milwaukee's mayor from 1948 to 1960.

Frank was in town some years ago for a political event sponsored by some friends. He was just modestly surprised when I whipped out my current NMRA membership card for him to autograph, as Frank was a charter member of the Association (the last of which died just a couple of years back - Frank's been gone a decade or so, RIP.) Frank told me he hadn't had much time for model railroading since being elected mayor...but he did enjoy the hobby.

Sadly, I suspect our hobby might not fare well in the current media environment. Too many chances for people to make a stink about not focusing on public business. Personally, knowing someone running for office was a model rail would tend to humanize someone in a positive way. We could probably use more fun in politicsSoapBox

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Posted by snjroy on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:09 PM

Well, senior politicians are probably too busy to do anything else than politics... However, our club is located near Ottawa (Canada's capital as you know), and we had two members of Parliament among our club members until very recently. Clubs in the vicinity of Washington DC may also have politicians among their members...

Simon

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