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Magnifying glasses
Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, January 29, 2016 11:13 AM

I guess I'm going to have to break down and get some type of magnifying glasses.  The #3 reading glasses are ok, but sometimes I need more.  I haven't started to shop around, and see whats out there, so I thought I'd ask what some of you guys use.

Thanks !

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Posted by davidmurray on Friday, January 29, 2016 11:14 AM

Mike:

I weaar bifocals, so I have a flip down visor at about 2.5-3.o times.  I got one with an adjustable head band, the new ones have an optional headlight.

This way you can flip it up to find tools, walk around, etc.

Dave

 

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Posted by ss122 on Friday, January 29, 2016 12:15 PM

Hi Mike,

 

By #3 do you mean +3.00 diopter? Reading glasses you can buy over the counter are generally available in steps from 1.00 diopters to 3.00 diopters. As you get into your forties, the lenses you are born with get stiffer and gradually lose their ability to focus at near. When most people find that their "arms are too short" they start with +1.00 or +1.25 diopter reading glasses. As modellers, we need more magnification, but it's hard to see distance with reading glasses.

I have an Optivisor which I love. As Dave says, you can flip it up to walk around, but for near work the optics are excellent. I'm 62 and I use the one with the 20" focal length. If you are older you might try the 14" focal length model. I was able to try them out at my LHS.

Best of luck.

Ken (Eye doctor by profession, but I'd rather be workin on the railroad).

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, January 29, 2016 12:17 PM

Mike, pick up an Optivisor.  Nothing could be better.

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Posted by 7j43k on Friday, January 29, 2016 12:31 PM

I'm nearsighted, and can focus down to about 10".  Which sure isn't close enough for modelmaking.

 

I've got Optivisors in #3, #5, and #10.  I use mostly the #5.  Then the #10 for teensy work.  The #10 doesn't have great depth of field for me, but sometimes it's just the thing.  The #3 may have been a mistake--I don't recall using it.

 

I would recommend getting the "old" ones, with glass lenses.  If nothing else, they should scratch MUCH less than plastic.

 

I'll note that I easily found on Amazon reading glasses at 4.0.  Another option.

 

 

 

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Posted by richg1998 on Friday, January 29, 2016 12:38 PM

Optivisor. Get one with a light. Amazon has a good selection. I just looked.

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Posted by rrebell on Friday, January 29, 2016 12:48 PM

I hated my Optiviser's and sold them on e-bay. I use reading glasses from the $ store, you can get them up to a 4 but on e-bay they can be bought for up to 7. I use 1.5 generally just doing stuff but the #4 works great for close up work and these are so cheap I leave pairs everywhere.

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 29, 2016 1:10 PM

I have a really good pair of progressives for day to day use. I did buy a three pack of very strong over the counters at Costco for cheap. They work great for close work and I keep a pair at the layout and the other two at the workbenches.

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Friday, January 29, 2016 1:13 PM

Optivisor is the best.  I have 2 other cheaper brands - they work but are not as comfortable and easy to use.  I use the #5 lenses.  I like that they flip down over my glasses - since my eyes are different corrections I need that.

Enjoy

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, January 29, 2016 9:36 PM

My wife laughs at me when I walk around the house with my Optivisor still on my head because I have forgotten to take it off.

Seriously, if I am doing any sort of work up close, the Optivisor is on my head the whole time.

I agree with the suggestion to get a light for it, BUT DON'T buy the ones that have LEDs in a frame that sits around the lenses. They do not focus the light worth beans. I bought a headlamp with a strap, removed the strap and used small bolts to attach the lamp to the top of the molded eye piece. The headlamp has an adjustable beam and two light levels. It concentrates the light right where you need it. In fact, on high with fresh batteries it is too bright.

Be aware that the headlamp eats batteries, or at least mine does. I'm using Duracells so its not a problem with using el-cheapo batteries.

Also, to reinforce a point that Paul made, spend the money on an Optivisor, not a clone. I made that mistake thinking that I would have two visors with different strength lenses, but the clone was so uncomfortable I tossed it.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, January 29, 2016 10:11 PM

Great guys, thanks, I guess I'll start with the Optivisor, and see what's it all about.  I do like to add details to locos, and freight cars, such as the hoses, plows, un-coupler levers, wipers, cross over plates, some piping, etc., not that I'm anything close to "rivet counter".  Just for my own satisfaction.

Thanks,

Mike

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, January 29, 2016 10:19 PM

So, I just did a quick search on Google, is it the Donagan Optivisor?

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, January 29, 2016 10:21 PM

I can't "quote" on Fire Fox, but, yes Ken, I mean the +3.00, and , after reading the replys, I might look the +4 or higher.

Mike

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Posted by hon30critter on Friday, January 29, 2016 11:44 PM

Yes Mike, it is the Donegan OptiVISOR.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:54 AM

Of all the tools that I own for working on my layout, the Optivisor is Number One.

Couldn't do without it.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, January 30, 2016 6:35 AM

Getting high diopter glasses may not help if have astigmatism.  You would have to wear those over your normal glasses.  I've got an el cheapo knock off of the Optivisor.  ....Hey I didn't know.  It has a flip up second pair of lenses, but the magnification is so high you have to working extremely close to your face.  It is not uncomfortable to wear.

Many of us are in an age group where we should be checked for glaucoma, which has no symptoms until you suffer significant vision loss.  If your source of eye care is trying on cheaters at Walmart, you are making a mistake.

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Posted by John Busby on Saturday, January 30, 2016 7:21 AM

Hi all

Well I do have a seriouse eye condition and have had it all my life and have a few more eye problems at the moment, and quite frankly the moral checker program would junk my post.

If I said what I think about people who don't take propper care of their eyes and get regular checks when they should.

You only get one set and if you seriously break them or ignore something fixable or controlable then thats pretty much it.

Just don't do it.

Erhm Sorry wild foot stamping rant over.

When it comes to fiddly stuff and fine detail's my prefered visual aid of choice is an optivisor with a 10x magnification that lense might have to be revised when the eye surgeon has finished with me hopefully lower.

It fits over my glasses is comfortable to wear and works.

Forget the it looks pretty and are pretty useless LED lights ones.

The light while bright doesn't shine where you want it so just stick with the non lighted one and the magnification level of lense that works for you.

And any one with possible real eye problem's please just go and get it checked out before its to late.

regards John

 

 

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Posted by ss122 on Saturday, January 30, 2016 2:45 PM
Excellent point Big Daddy. If you are over forty (close to the age where people start needing reading glasses) and you haven't had a good eye exam in the past five years this is the time. Some the saddest things I see in my profession are preventable eye trauma (so wear your safety glasses) and loss of vision due to glaucoma which is called the "silent thief of sight", but is easily detected with a proper exam.

Some might consider this reply off-topic, but it is hard to do model railroading if you can't see .
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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, January 30, 2016 3:46 PM

Point taken about eye health.  I have yearly exams, next one due in March.

Thanks for all the great feedback!

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Posted by LOCO_GUY on Saturday, January 30, 2016 9:19 PM

I got advice here when I was having the same problem seeing those tiny parts.

Here is what I got and its really good.

Carson Optical Pro Series MagniVisor Deluxe Head-Worn LED Lighted Magnifier with 4 Different Lenses

I only need the X2 lens but having four lenses is a real bonus if you have to look at something REALLY close.

 

 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, February 8, 2016 2:19 PM

Just a quick thanks to everyone.  I bought the Optivisor, Walthers has a sale, you get the optivisor and 4 different lenses, #'s 3,4,5 & 7.  Walthers is about an hour from me.  Great place, except the neighborhood they are in (and have been for ever, I think) is not great. 

Now, I just have to remember to take them off when I leave my "shop" area.  (wife has caught me a couple of times, and just laughs).

Mike.

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Posted by G Paine on Monday, February 8, 2016 2:31 PM

This is what Walthers has for Optivisor

http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?category=&scale=&manu=&item=&keywords=Optivisor&words=restrict&instock=Q&split=30&Submit=Search

A great addition to the Optovisor is the Quasar Lighting System, a set of LEDs that attaches to the lens, and lights where you are loooking. MicroMark has it, as well as Optivisors

http://www.micromark.com/quasar-lighting-system-for-optivisor,8608.html

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Posted by E-L man tom on Monday, February 8, 2016 2:54 PM

I have probably an older Optivisor. It is a 10 power visor. I picked it up at a garage sale of the widow of a really great model railroader who has been selling his stuff off since he passed away 2+ years ago. I think, with some of the other stuff I bought, it probably was about $1 or less. With my aging eyes, I can't imagine having to do without that thing ever again for close up, HO scale work. Even at full retail its worth the money. Every detail is so much clearer

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, February 8, 2016 8:42 PM

Hi George:

I wasn't too pleased with the Quasar Lighting System. I found that mine produced very little useful light. The LEDs are not focused so the light is spread everywhere. I even upgraded to 5mm LEDs but that didn't improve things by much.

Instead I attached a strap on headlamp to the top of the visor with a couple of small bolts. I did away with the straps.

The headlamp can be focused right on the work piece and in fact gives too much light when its on the high setting. I got mine from Lee Valley Tools. The style I chose is a bit different from most strap on headlamps in that the batteries are in the lamp. The more common arrangement is for the batteries to be in a separate compartment. The compartment could be easily attached to the Optivisor head strap but mounting the lamp might have to be done differently:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=67596&cat=1,43456,43349

Price is in $USD.

The added weight on the visor means that you have to tighten the screws on the headband but it has it stays in place quite well.

The Lee Valley unit is also $10.00 less than the Quasar.

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Posted by Uncle_Bob on Monday, February 8, 2016 8:57 PM

BigDaddy

Getting high diopter glasses may not help if have astigmatism.  You would have to wear those over your normal glasses.  I've got an el cheapo knock off of the Optivisor.  ....Hey I didn't know.  It has a flip up second pair of lenses, but the magnification is so high you have to working extremely close to your face.  It is not uncomfortable to wear.

Many of us are in an age group where we should be checked for glaucoma, which has no symptoms until you suffer significant vision loss.  If your source of eye care is trying on cheaters at Walmart, you are making a mistake.

 

Glaucoma, cataracts, macular degeneration, diabetes, and sarcoidosis are all medical conditions that can lead to vision loss.  As others have said, get your eyes checked once a year.  (Because of multiple medical conditions I either have or that run in my family, I have to have my eyes checked every six months.)  This isn't one of those "put it off till tomorrow" things.  Optivisors are wonderful, as are reading glasses, but make sure there isn't more going on than fuzzy close-up vision.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, February 8, 2016 9:06 PM

Guys, if you look back, I already have yearly check-ups, and my next one is in March.

I know all about eye health.

Thank you!

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Posted by HO Loco loco on Monday, July 5, 2021 5:47 PM

Great info. Thanks. I daily wear progressive tri-focal eyeglasses.  Does anyone have experience with those and magnifiers like the Optivisor?   Do you wear your tri-focals along with it when doing detailed work?  Thanks.  

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Monday, July 5, 2021 6:29 PM

I just picked up a "optivisor" competitor from HobbyLobby that they had marked down. Built in LED headlamp, two brightness levels, and 3 seperate magnifiers used alone or together.

Can't believe I waited this long to get one...

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, July 5, 2021 8:17 PM

HO Loco loco
Do you wear your tri-focals along with it

I think you can do without unless you have astigmatism.

I upgraded my HF knock off optivisor with a real one, since I posted 5 years ago.  I got several different lenses but the downside of the higher power is that you need to get it closer to your face to be in focus.

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Posted by tstage on Monday, July 5, 2021 8:54 PM

ricktrains4824

I just picked up a "optivisor" competitor from HobbyLobby that they had marked down. Built in LED headlamp, two brightness levels, and 3 seperate magnifiers used alone or together.

Can't believe I waited this long to get one...

Unless I'm thinking of someone else, Rick, I thought I remember you being pretty adversed to getting them in the past because you stated your eyes were still good?  If so, what changed?

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