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Grain elevators, anyone?
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:02 PM
I am wondering if anyone could post pictures of the grain elevators on your layout?
Thanks, J1
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Posted by railman on Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:09 PM
I second the motion! I see the real thing every day here in Minnesota, but I don't see the models all that often.
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Posted by tatans on Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:44 PM
Are you referring to small wooden grain elevators found in every small town which are disappearing fast, or large concrete silos called terminals, which have replaced most elevators and are fewer in number and farther apart. I can't distinguish between grain handling facilities or chemical sites on these newer silos.
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Posted by Hawks05 on Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:46 PM
i would but thats the only building i have up and it looks like crap along with the rest of what i call my layout. just track on top of particle board. nothing special. maybe i'll get a pick up sometime.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:19 PM
Heres some new pics of my Walthers Cornerstone Series Grain Elevator
http://community.webshots.com/photo/220799474/224163587GjbkIM
http://community.webshots.com/photo/220799474/224163677SbMwqr
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:32 PM
I love grain elevators so much, that I am devoting 40' of layout to the Hiawatha milling district in South Minneapolis. All of the mills and elevators are going to be scratch done using cardboard tubes and PVC pipe as a base structure. I have a lot of photos of the area, but nothing built yet.

I am working on the benchwork for this section, and as soon as it is finished, I plan to dig right in. To hell with the mainline and the rest of the railroad. I WANT TO DO SOME SWITCHING. [swg]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 7:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tatans

Are you referring to small wooden grain elevators found in every small town which are disappearing fast, or large concrete silos called terminals, which have replaced most elevators and are fewer in number and farther apart. I can't distinguish between grain handling facilities or chemical sites on these newer silos.


Anything and everything.

Nice pics Heartland.

Big Boy, that sounds awesome! Id love to see that.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:55 PM
I am thinking of having silo's on my layout as well. We have them at work except we use them to store plastic pellets. They are 86' tall and 14' in diameter, so i am thinking 2' PVC pipe is about right for the diameter and just cut it to length of 12" and it's a done deal. To cap it off will fill it with foam peanuts and then top it with plaster, or something else to finish it off. Of course it will have to have pipes and, a ladder, and all the other goodies but i think i have the basics covered.
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jamison1

QUOTE: Originally posted by tatans

Are you referring to small wooden grain elevators found in every small town which are disappearing fast, or large concrete silos called terminals, which have replaced most elevators and are fewer in number and farther apart. I can't distinguish between grain handling facilities or chemical sites on these newer silos.


Anything and everything.

Nice pics Heartland.

Big Boy, that sounds awesome! Id love to see that.


Thanks Jamison. In real life the milling district is about a block wide, and a mile and a half long. It forms a virtual canyon, with the tracks running down the middle. There are 7 or 8 different mills or elevators along this stretch, some rather large. A few are still active today.

At the north end there is a small storage yard which holds cars waiting to be spotted and empties waiting to be reasigned.

When I get a chance I'll upload some photos, and post them here.[:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:40 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

I love grain elevators so much, that I am devoting 40' of layout to the Hiawatha milling district in South Minneapolis. All of the mills and elevators are going to be scratch done using cardboard tubes and PVC pipe as a base structure. I have a lot of photos of the area, but nothing built yet.

I am working on the benchwork for this section, and as soon as it is finished, I plan to dig right in. To hell with the mainline and the rest of the railroad. I WANT TO DO SOME SWITCHING. [swg]


Are you modeling the Minnesota Commercial or the Milwaukee Road?
I drive around this area every day, so I'm familiar with it. I've corresponded with someone who modelled it in N, but HO...WOW! Can I come see?

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Posted by railman on Monday, November 29, 2004 12:26 AM
Hey, that would be slick. I have family that used to work at the A Mill and down on that district.
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Monday, November 29, 2004 12:35 AM
Gary, not HO, but O (3 rail). You are welcome to come over, I'm even looking for help with my monster project.

As far as the Milwaukee or the Commercial goes, it's a toss up. Even with 40 feet there will be some compresssion. My plan is to preserve the flavor of the area, while making it a good switching puzzle.

I just scanned in some old photos to show Jamison and the gang here. On the track plan the area is the detailed section at the bottom of the drawing.













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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 12:47 AM
Big Boy--

Sure, it sounds like fun--I'd love to help; E-mail me and we'll see if we can find time that would work. I live in the Midway. I have an odd work schedule, though.

Do you know Dave Zuhn? He knows this area.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 7:59 AM
BB4005, Thanks for those pics. What an interesting and challenging layout idea. I too have been by that area, although it seems like forever ago. Good luck on your project, Id love to see it when you are completed!
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Posted by rogerhensley on Monday, November 29, 2004 8:27 AM
Under construction on the HO ECI, here is an old elevator being updated with new bins and soon to follow, a modern Feed Store.


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Posted by ckape on Monday, November 29, 2004 11:59 AM
Well, I've been working off and on to model the steel grain elevator from my hometown. I've got most of the main structure done, but I've still got the larger bins, the office and some outbuildings left, plus all of the piping to do, but I might as well show off some of what I've got.

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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Monday, November 29, 2004 12:47 PM
Heartland, Roger and Ckape, nice models!!

Jamison, by saying "grain elevator", it was like putting out bait for the midwestern crowd. Just look at all of the Minnesotans coming out of the woodwork. I love it!! [^][8D] I kind of figured your being from Iowa, you might have gotten up this way.

By the way, the invitation I gave Gary is open to everyone, just let me know if you are coming to town. I designed the layout with visitors in mind. When complete, the visitor's entrance is going to be in the lower left corner of the plan above. The first thing people will see is the milling district, all the way down.[8D]
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Posted by steveblackledge on Monday, November 29, 2004 3:28 PM
Good pics for me to use BIG-BOY 4005,,, i am building a BN empire set in the 80's in my Garage, one wall has a concrete block section of wall sticking out 6" and about 16" above rail level so an elevator built from 2" pvc tubing is going to be built around it, i have built a couple by this method before , i use an electric cross cut saw !!! WITH CAUTION and EYE PROTECTION i must add to cut the tube square. the trouble with most kit elevators is they tend to be a bit on the small size and don't reflect the size of the "real thing", you can kitbash and combine several kits to make a big one but if like me you aren't on $$$$$$$$$ scratchbuilding is the way to go, you can build the basic structure, and for just a few dollars more you can add some quallity detail parts like lamps, ladders, etc, etc

How do you put a picture in here ?????????


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Posted by Noah Hofrichter on Monday, November 29, 2004 4:49 PM
Roger, Heartland and Ckape, you al have some nice models there! Keep up the good work!

Steve, you have to first have the image hosted on a website. Then you put the URL between the tags of [ img][/img ] without the spaces.

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Posted by Hawks05 on Monday, November 29, 2004 9:15 PM
heartland i have that same building, and it looks exactly the same. no detailing done to it. as a matter of fact my layout looks almost exactly like yours.

BB4005- those pictures are awesome. i wish i could get up there sometime and see those elevators in action. i want to get out and take some pictures of the elevators in town here and maybe model those.

next time i'm down at my grandparents i'm hoping my dad and i will be able to drive down to the ADM elevator down there. thats my primary focus really, ADM.

i don't really need to post pictures now, heartland posted my elevator.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 10:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

Heartland, Roger and Ckape, nice models!!

Jamison, by saying "grain elevator", it was like putting out bait for the midwestern crowd. Just look at all of the Minnesotans coming out of the woodwork. I love it!! [^][8D] I kind of figured your being from Iowa, you might have gotten up this way.

By the way, the invitation I gave Gary is open to everyone, just let me know if you are coming to town. I designed the layout with visitors in mind. When complete, the visitor's entrance is going to be in the lower left corner of the plan above. The first thing people will see is the milling district, all the way down.[8D]


Thanks for the invite Bigboy. I promise if I get in your neck of the woods, Ill take you up on that!! I hear ya on the Midwestern crowd. Thats exactly what I thought when posting this!

Beutiful work ckape on your elevator and bins, I love it. Very nice work there.[:D]
What did you use to model those steel bins? I can almost hear the grain filling them!
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Monday, November 29, 2004 11:02 PM
Jim, I think that bottom picture in the group above is ADM. Here's one taken from the Hiawatha side.



Recognize any of these Jim?[swg]









I told you guys I liked grain elevators. [swg]

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Posted by ckape on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:12 AM
The bins are made by Rix, and I just added some styrene channel strips to simulate the external bracing on my prototype.
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Posted by steveblackledge on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:23 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Noah Hofrichter

Roger, Heartland and Ckape, you al have some nice models there! Keep up the good work!

Steve, you have to first have the image hosted on a website. Then you put the URL between the tags of [ img][/img ] without the spaces.

Noah
[:)] thanks,, not got a web site with any of my pics on,, i'll have to get my finger out and get it sorted
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 10:41 PM
Man theres a lot of great ideas out there. Im doing something a litle different,
I plan to use two ADM elevators and make one, with a brewing plant behind it for my
ethanol plant.
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Posted by Hawks05 on Saturday, December 4, 2004 1:01 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005
of course i recognize those. some of them i had to try and figure out what angle you were shooting from. the one with the train coming at you was that taken from down across from that trucking place? or where were you on that one.

i should get out and take some pictures soon before it gets to cold.


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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Saturday, December 4, 2004 1:42 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Hawks05


of course i recognize those. some of them i had to try and figure out what angle you were shooting from. the one with the train coming at you was that taken from down across from that trucking place? or where were you on that one.

i should get out and take some pictures soon before it gets to cold.


Well Jim, those were taken on a Friday night last summer. We parked at the crossing 2 blocks east of the highway, then walked the tracks back to the highway waiting for the train. I think by the time the train got there, I had already walked all the way back, and was actually east of where we parked, closer to the ballfields. I used the zoom on the camera.

If you want pictures this time of year, you'll want to take them on a day when there's no school, so you have some light. Those structures have so much character, I love small town America.[;)][8D]
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Posted by ericsp on Saturday, December 4, 2004 3:40 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by danny t

Man theres a lot of great ideas out there. Im doing something a litle different,
I plan to use two ADM elevators and make one, with a brewing plant behind it for my
ethanol plant.

With ethanol coming into widespread use as a fuel additive the demand has increased considerably recently. Therefore most of the ethanol plants are probably relatively new. When you say a "brewing plant" is that what you are calling the ethanol plant or do you mean that you plan on buying a model of a brewery and use it? None of the ethanol plant I have seen look like the breweries listed in the Walthers catalog (although that does not mean there are not any). Here is an ethanol company's website that includes pictures of the plant (including it being built).

http://www.badgerstateethanol.com/
http://www.badgerstateethanol.com/photo_album.htm
http://www.wsorrailroad.com/monroe/ethanol1a.html

"No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld)

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 4, 2004 2:01 PM
any elevators in urban northeast areas, still? all i see up here are cement, gravel & sand silos. funny thing is, there must be, since i see covered hoppers with coop names parked on sidings in the boston area, but i cant identify any elevators or food storage silos. maybe they hide them underground?...
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 4, 2004 3:27 PM
Hey guys, love all the pics. I also love grain elevators. Gonna model some on my layout, when I get one. Have anything about elevators at ports.[?] I'm interested in modeling one, where grain is unloaded from RR hoppers, then, loaded onto ships. Also, there's an abandoned elevator about 4 mi. south of where I live. With a track connection. It's not that big, but, I think it would be a perfect fit on any layout. I don't have any photos of it, yet. Anyone interested.[?]

Guys, I mean those pics are[8D].

Erdle, RDL, or Robert

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