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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2004 10:18 PM
Modeling a modern ethanol plant so all diesel, about time the switchers get
some glory.
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Posted by mikebonellisr on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 8:30 AM
All of the above.In the past I was jealouse of youse guys that ran diesel because they proformed so well.But now with all the new,quality steamers We are right up there with you.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 6:37 AM
I used to think I new the answer to that one , but the longer I'm in this thing....... Hey! Waht happened to electrics? TURBINES WHOOOOSSHHH !
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Posted by Texas Zepher on Monday, November 29, 2004 10:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bnsf6733

which one?

In what context? To make a detailed model of? to watch in real life? to run on a model railroad?

In real life - Steam Passenger. There is a reason excursion trains get a 90 MPH road block of all the cars of railfans chasing them.

To model - Freight Diesels are so much easier and low maintenance.
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Posted by steveblackledge on Monday, November 29, 2004 4:07 PM
UK Class 47 diesel's, the Jack Of All Trade's, 95mph on a passenger train or getting to grips with a coal train, you can't beat it,,, then when they die at 40 or so years old they get a re-build with a reconditiond SD40 engine and get upgraded to Class 57 for what will prove to be one of the longest lasting locomotives ever built,,,,, but still not as good as an 8P "Duchess" class steam locomotive
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Posted by Virginian on Monday, November 29, 2004 4:06 PM
Too many choices. I vored for steam freight, but could have just as easily voted for steam everything.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 1:13 PM
Steam passenger! Steam locomotives rule and one hauling a passenger train is a sight to behold! When people talk about the golden age of rail travel, they usually mean the steam era.
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Posted by cwclark on Monday, November 29, 2004 8:59 AM
most of my trains are diesel freights but i also have a diesel passenger train so the question isn't a fair reflection on what i run on my layout...I have the cars from the SP daylight and it's pulled by an F-7 black widow A and B unit and will add two more as soon as I get them ordered...Chuck[:D]

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Posted by orsonroy on Monday, November 29, 2004 8:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mark300
Now..... if I only could find 60 or 70 ft heavyweight undecorated coaches with 4 wheel trucks........
Mark


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Posted by Mark300 on Monday, November 29, 2004 7:58 AM
Voted steam freight but would've made steam passenger a close second choice.

Now..... if I only could find 60 or 70 ft heavyweight undecorated coaches with 4 wheel trucks........


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Posted by ClinchValleySD40 on Monday, November 29, 2004 7:30 AM
Era is 1980. All diesel (first and second generation) freight - no steam and no passenger.
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Posted by LuthierTom on Monday, November 29, 2004 7:13 AM
ALL THE ABOVE! [:)][:D][^][:p]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 4:51 AM
Limited Allegheny excursions because of EPA restraints & hign liability insurance.
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Posted by tstage on Monday, November 29, 2004 12:20 AM
Steam freight then diesel freight. More interesting to me than passenger any day. [:)]

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Posted by twhite on Monday, November 29, 2004 12:02 AM
Whoa, Trainjunky, I thought you were talking about SP in the Siskiyous there for a moment, not Santa Fe in Cajon! Either one is a pretty darned spectacular show! Have to go with steam freight--and steam passenger. Something about all that noise and chuffing and clanking that kind of gets to me, always has. My dream is a big 2-8-8-4 (or 2-8-8-2) at the head of a long reefer block, with a couple of 4-8-2's cut in, one in the middle and one ahead of the caboose, all whacking up a mountain grade at 25 or 30MPH. Or a big, beautiful 4-8-4 at the head of a string of Pullman Standard cars with passengers crowding the deck of the observation car going OOH and AAH at the scenery. Gets me every time.
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Posted by brokemoto on Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:54 PM
I voted for the steam passenger train, because a pacific or a mountain flying down a speedway with whistle blasting , throwing a hiuge cloud of smoke (hey, *bleep* the fuel savings, we need speed which means we need steam which requires fire) as it hustles its mail train to its destination is railroading at its best.

Mail trains are also ideal modeller's trains because you can throw anything onto it and even mix roads with the passenger equpment.

Although I do have to admit that the consist of CRI&P 15 in one issue of the CLASSIC TRAINS caught my attention: head end cars, an RDC followed by another coach--there is an interesting consist for a diesel powered train. I wonder if 15 ever looked like that but with a steam engine on it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:50 PM
NO WAY!!! STEAMERS ARN'T KING!!!! DIESELS PUT STEAMERS OUT OF A JOB!!!!!!

DIESELS ARE THE REAL KING!!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wmlurgan

The wonderful sound of F units growling past pulling a long freight. What could be better.


What could be better?

A long freight with a 2-10-2 and a 2-8-2 on the point, three 2-10-2's cut in the middle, and two 2-10-2's just ahead of the caboose, all sending massive plumes of smoke skyward as they blast up Cajon Pass in a deafening cacaphony of the symphony of steam, shaking the ground as they pass....

Steam is, was, and always will be KING!!!!

I guess you know which one I voted for [:)].

See you around the forums,
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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:27 PM
Steam passenger service is utterly stunning in every respect.

Having said that, I love stream freight, and diesel freight, and diesel passenger. I LOVE TRAINS!!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 5:51 PM
Steam engines pulling fluted side passenger cars. Works for me!

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Posted by ShaunCN on Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:30 PM
Diesel freight,is anythig better than GP9's on a local freight? NOPE!!
derailment? what derailment? All reports of derailments are lies. Their are no derailments within a hundreed miles of here.
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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:13 PM
Steam freight. And to a lesser extent, steam passenger.

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Posted by CP5415 on Sunday, November 28, 2004 3:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Fergmiester

Steam, The only choice!


Oh my how some are delusional[;)]

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YA ok Fergie! [;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 2:49 PM
I run all of them, but prefer the appearance of a pair of Dash-8's pulling a long freight.
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Posted by orsonroy on Sunday, November 28, 2004 2:29 PM
Six Berkshires, two Mikados and a consolidation all simmering away on the ready tracks next to a 400-ton coal dock, waiting for three 0-8-0s to assemble their trains, which are currently waiting for a Mike to bring a train onto track #2, while a meat reefer block heads out of track #1, pulled by two Berkshires.

That's what my main yard will look like once the track gangs get that far. I think I'll have to vote steam freight!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:41 PM
I run diesel freight although I do have one ATSF Steam excursion train I run when the spirit moves me
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:46 PM
Give me a 4-8-8-4 Big Boy pulling a long mixed freight anyday.
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Posted by RMax1 on Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:47 AM
AMTRAK E unit's and misc. freight.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:45 AM
diesel frieght

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