Kadee #119 SE type coupling

[CPPedler]

Hello everyone,

Can anyone explain where the Kadee #119 SE coupling is used . As far as I understand it, the #118 SF is used on tank cars but not sure where the SE is used.

Thanks in advance. Colin       UK

[JoeinPA]

Colin:

It looks like both are shelf type couplers. The 118 is a "standard size" Kadee while the 119 is the smaller "scale size" coupler. Some prefer the 119 as it is a little closer to prototypical in size.

Joe

[RR_Mel]

I cut over to #119 Shelf couplers on my Daylight passenger cars two years ago.  I wasn’t having a lot of false uncouples but the #119 stops it!

 

I was having problems between my E7s. My E7s are power houses, Athearn SD40-2 frames with heavy Cary cast metal shells.  Each locomotive weighs in at 2½ pounds or more and has tremendous drawbar pull.  I went with the larger #118 because they look stronger than the #119. 

 

 

I have three pairs of Athearn powered E7A/Bs and operate them in DC mode.  I balanced all of my DC mode E7s very close but constant reversal operations results in uncoupling with the standard Kadee, the #118s took care of that.

 

Both versions work very well with Kadee uncouplers, they’re a bugger to uncouple by hand.  At a creep they will uncouple moving over the Kadee 309 electric uncoupler when you apply power to the uncoupler.  A sudden shot of magnetism is enough to kick the couplers apart with the locomotive moving as long as it’s not on an uphill grade.

 

I also have three pairs of Model Power E7A/Bs and I use the #118 on them too.  I remotored the Model Power locomotives with Canon dual shaft EN22D motors and run them in DCC mode. I didn't have a problem with the Model Powers uncoupling but I converted them to #118 too.

 

All my steam fleet and freight rolling stock use the standard Kadee #5.

 

 

Mel

 

Modeling the early to mid 1950s SP in HO scale since 1951

 

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Bakersfield, California

 

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[dinwitty]

locomotives that may be more semi-permanently for me I'll use the SE couplers, and use on passenger cars if they start giving me uncoupling problems. If I use the scale coupler I need 2 of them on both mounting as they will still uncouple if used singly. The bigger SE is fine on a standard 5 Kadee knuckle to hold them coupled. I am finding myself installing the SE's on steamers.

[wp8thsub]

The type SE is more common on tank cars than the SF.  Some tank cars, mostly built before about 1978, that were originally built with type F couplers, were retrofitted with type SF.  Some could get them when new.  Most tank cars before the rules changed were built to use type E, and were thus retorfitted with type SE.  Hazmat tank cars built from around 1978 were typically equipped with type SE from the start.