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Old Tyco Silver Streak

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Old Tyco Silver Streak
Posted by DCHO on Friday, July 17, 2015 10:57 AM

I have an old Tyco Silver Streak locomotive with a burnt out motor.  I would like to replace the motor with something more powerful.  Is there some other manufacture's model that would be compatable with this locomotive?

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Posted by dstarr on Friday, July 17, 2015 11:10 AM

Depends.  If it's a diesel, you can pick up a similar diesel at a train show and swap the Tyco shell onto the other make drive.  It may require some hand work to make the Tyco shell fit onto an Athearn or Bachmann drive but it is doable.  If steam, you can do a motor swap  any twelve volt motor that is small enough to fit will work.  You can fabricate the necessary motor mounting brackets from strip brass or seat the new motor with silicone bathtub caulk.  Note: if it is a "pancake" motor with the motor shaft running crosswise to the locomotive it's probably not replacable. 

   Post some pictures and receive more specific advice.

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Posted by richg1998 on Friday, July 17, 2015 11:31 AM

I would doubt it is repairable but this is model railroading.

Maybe ebay or a train show for parts.

Google, Tyco Silver Streak. I jusrt did.

 
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Posted by Bernd on Friday, July 17, 2015 2:22 PM

Check out the Tyco Depot forum. Lot's of info there. might even find somebody that has a spare motor.

http://tycodepot.com/

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Posted by M636C on Friday, July 17, 2015 11:27 PM

DCHO

I have an old Tyco Silver Streak locomotive with a burnt out motor.  I would like to replace the motor with something more powerful.  Is there some other manufacture's model that would be compatable with this locomotive?

 

 

The Tyco "Silver Streak" was a reasonable scale model for its time of introduction of the Alco Century 430.

There is only one other plastic model of the C430 made by Mehano in the former Yugoslavia.

It should be generally similar in size to a General Electric U28 or U30 which had similar trucks to the Tyco model, and finding a model of this type to use for a replacement chassis should be easy. Athearn made a model of the U30 and U33/36 which should be available second hand.

Other maunufacurers still build models of these four axle GEs that should be suitable.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, July 18, 2015 12:21 AM

Bowser makes some very nice versions of the C-430, although I can't say if the mechanisms would be suitable for the Tyco.  As I recall, the Tyco had a plastic partial-frame, which held only the front truck. That truck contained a pancake-style motor and was the only powered one.  The body casting actually wasn't too bad for the time, especially if one took the trouble to strip the heavy finish and repaint it.  I also added a few details to the one I had, but never took a photo of it - the cost of getting film processed and printed meant not too many photos. Sad

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Posted by 16-567D3A on Saturday, July 18, 2015 12:56 AM

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Posted by ggnlars on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 8:45 AM

Power is actually not the problem with those old hi-torq motors.  I have shown that tuned up stock versions will deliver more than 100 grams of draw bar force.  They do that at 357 grams weight.  The corresponding recent engine will reqire an engine weight of 5-600 grams to deliver the same power to the tracks. 

Of course, they required traction tires.  As the tires age the force goes down because the coefficient of friction goes down.  To use these you have to find a source of traction tires. 

I find a number of reliablity issues with these units, Usually from either no maintance or way too much.  Often the bruches are literally swimming in oil.  That tends to kill the motor power and running real fast.

Depending on what your thinking, the best solution would be to repower with Kato's P42 power trucks.  It would take some work to mount them, but you would have all wheel electrical pick up and similar specifics with out the traction tires.

A second, much less work and cheaper option would be to find a classic Mantua drive.  Early versions of this unit had these motors.  The wiring is very similar and they mount in the same shell slots with very little trimming required.  This motor has about the same power and is not as subject to abuse.  A much cheaper approach, but it still required Traction tires.  These tires are harder to find, because they are unique to this power truck.

Larry

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