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Trainfest - Where was the new Bachmann HO 2-8-2?

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Trainfest - Where was the new Bachmann HO 2-8-2?
Posted by don7 on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:14 PM

I was really sorry to see that there was no interview with Bachmann about their new 2-8-2. This engine did have a release date of December 2014, but then again a lot of release dates are missed.

As this locomotive is not a Spectrum I would assume detail level will be a bit skimpy.

The last Spectrum HO steam engine with an amazing amount of detail was the 2-8-2 SY.  Now if Bachmann would give their North American market the same level of detail I know I would have a lot more Bachmann engines. However, that is not the case.

The level of detail is what makes a model versus a toy, I assume I will be sadly disappointed, but then again perhaps Bachmann may surprise with thier new 2-8-2.

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Posted by richg1998 on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:22 PM

You really should ask at the Bachmann forums if you have not done that yet. Makes sense. There are forums for different scales and some Bachmann reps there.

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Posted by don7 on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:36 PM

richg1998

You really should ask at the Bachmann forums if you have not done that yet. Makes sense. There are forums for different scales and some Bachmann reps there.

Rich

 
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Posted by steemtrayn on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:12 PM

Will it be yet another USRA? Or something more interesting, like maybe a Virginian MB?

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Posted by fmilhaupt on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:37 AM

It's a USRA Mikado. They're varying the tenders a bit, from roadname to roadname, though. Thankfully, they've corrected the engine number announced for the Pere Marquette model since the announcement in July.

I'd like to see someone release a smaller Mikado, but the manufacturing/sales problem is that once you get away from the USRA designs, there aren't many designs that were owned by multiple roads. Just too much variety out in the real world...

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Posted by oldline1 on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:44 AM

ANOTHER USRA Mike? Why? When is someone going to do an F-7A unit? LOL

I think a lot of us would like to see something besides those 2 engines. I understand they were "universal" engines but, still, considering most manufacturers will paint anything for any railroad then why not give us something different?

I'm not a Pennsy modeler but I would think a plastic Spectrum quality L1s would be a hit. The Virginian MB mentioned earlier would be a good sized Mike. How about a small logging type Mike like the NWSL brass engines? A GN O-8 would be great too.

Please STOP THE MADNESS!!! (That is........USRA's and F-units)

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Posted by TheWizard on Saturday, November 22, 2014 6:25 PM

MB Klein just got the N&W consolidation in today (announced at the same time I believe), hopefully the 2-8-2 comes in the next shipment.

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Posted by don7 on Sunday, November 23, 2014 2:11 PM

I am hoping that they have undecorated models available as well, also i hope the selection of tenders includes vanderbilt tenders as well.

 

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:50 PM

don7

I was really sorry to see that there was no interview with Bachmann about their new 2-8-2. This engine did have a release date of December 2014, but then again a lot of release dates are missed.

As this locomotive is not a Spectrum I would assume detail level will be a bit skimpy.

The last Spectrum HO steam engine with an amazing amount of detail was the 2-8-2 SY.  Now if Bachmann would give their North American market the same level of detail I know I would have a lot more Bachmann engines. However, that is not the case.

The level of detail is what makes a model versus a toy, I assume I will be sadly disappointed, but then again perhaps Bachmann may surprise with thier new 2-8-2.

 

Don,

You must be looking at different Spectrum steam locos than the ones I have. 

USRA heavy 4-8-2, USRA 2-6-6-2, C&O H4 2-6-6-2, USRA light 2-10-2, are all exceptionaly well detailed and while it is generic even the 2-8-0 is nicely detailed.

Every loco I listed above is easily better detailed then the generic 2-8-2 and 4-6-2 from Broadway Limited. And I woud say every one of them is as well detailed as my Broadway Reading T-1 and N&W Class A - if not better.

I also have a number of the Bachmann regular line 2-8-4's, which I have convered to freelanced heavy Mikes. While not as well detailed as the Spectrum models, they are again easily as well detailed as the BROADWAY 2-8-2 and 4-6-2.

   

And they are more correctly detailed than the MTH 2-8-4 with its grossly oversized cast on boiler details.

As for this new Mike, I would expect it to be similar in detail to the recent 2-6-0 or the 2-8-4.

As to when it will be out, that is hard to say. I had a hard time finding much even on the Bachmann forum.

The Spectrum SY isa very nicely detailed loco - however not a prototype of interest to me.

Right now Broadway is the only game in town for a Mike - Bachmann will likely be just as nice at a better price.

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Posted by don7 on Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:51 PM

Atlantic Central,

Yes I have one, and in most instances more of all of the Bachmann Spectrum steam engines you mentioned, plus a few you did not mention such as the 4-6-0's , small and medium drivers and the 2-10-0.

I repeat that the Bachmann Spectrum SY 2-8-2 has a higher level of detail than any of the engines you mentioned.

The only reason I mentioned the Bachmann SY is that I did not realize that of all of the steam engines Bachmann makes, it is the Chinese market segment which has the models with the highest level of detail.

Check out their diesels and electrics, for what ever reason the Chinese models have far more detail than either the North American market items or the Europeon market items.

If anyone had asked me which market would have had the models with the highest level of detail I would have guessed it was the Europeon/UK market, go figure.

Yes, if the new 2-8-2 has the same level of detail that the 2-8-4 has I will be happy.

The newest base locomotive, the 2-6-0 certainly is lacking in detail. It can be fixed though by adding on 3rd party detail parts.

 

 

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:14 PM

Don, I agree the SY has a superior level of detail - more along the lines of Proto2000 steam.

But looking at all the North American offerings as a whole, current and over the last 10-15 years, most of the Spectrum models are as well detailed, or better detailed, than a great number of their competitors asking much higher prices.

And yes I neglaected to mention the 4-6-0 and the 2-10-0, both well detailed also. I have several copies of the 4-6-0 kit bashed with Bachmann Vandy tenders, I do not own a copy of the Russian.

I am about to the end of my need for locos, but a nicely priced USRA light from Bachmann could prompt me to add another sub class to the ALANTIC CENTRAL roster.

The only Bachmann diesels on my layout are the 44 tonner and the 70 tonner - although some of the newest pieces are very nicely done.

Sheldon

    

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