"Ray" the movie - 1950s Double Stack Intermodal?

[DSchmitt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

Highiron--you're probably thinking about the film "Emperor of The North Pole" with Lee Marvin and Ernest Borgnine as the sadistic conductor. It was filmed on a short line in Oregon, and used pretty much Depression-era equipment--the film took place in the 1930's. Luckily, that particular shortline is a railroad that collects museum-quality equipment and runs it for tourists. It's one of the rare occasions where Hollywood actually took note of what period trains were supposed to look like. It's also due to the fact that Robert Aldrich, the director, was also a railroad buff.
Tom

You are probably right except the movie was "Emperor of the North". It is available from Amazon http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000JBJK/ref%3Dpd%5Fsl%5Faw%5Falx-jeb-6-1%5Fvideo%5F2158122%5F1/002-8631773-7014450 [:)]

[Anonymous]

Ive notice Hollywood doesnt care about accuracy on train for years now, ever since White Christmas. Trains from NYC to Pine Tree Vermont, pulled by SP and SF F units........yeeah right!!!

[rrinker]

There are some more subtle ones too. In the 1960 movie "From the Terrace" with Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward, Reading T-1 #2124 is used. The scene is supposed to be in Reading Terminal in Philadelphia, but the T-1 couldn't run there, so they used CNJ's Jersey City terminal instead.

--Randy

[twhite]

Highiron--you're probably thinking about the film "Emperor of The North Pole" with Lee Marvin and Ernest Borgnine as the sadistic conductor. It was filmed on a short line in Oregon, and used pretty much Depression-era equipment--the film took place in the 1930's. Luckily, that particular shortline is a railroad that collects museum-quality equipment and runs it for tourists. It's one of the rare occasions where Hollywood actually took note of what period trains were supposed to look like. It's also due to the fact that Robert Aldrich, the director, was also a railroad buff.
Tom

[Anonymous]

I watched a old rail movie about Train 19, I forgot the title. It was about a brutal conductor.. That equitment looked authetic enough to me.

[railman]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Robert Langford

kEver noticed the "con trails" from jets in the skys in some of the old western movies?
If not, look next time you watch one of AMC.
Bob

I will be watching the next time I'm watching some of the westerns.

[Robert Langford]

kEver noticed the "con trails" from jets in the skys in some of the old western movies?
If not, look next time you watch one of AMC.
Bob

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by railman

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

There are some people in Hollywood that aren't doing their homework. On the other hand, finding vintage trains is impossible on real working railroads. It is much easier to find vintage automobiles to fill the streets.

They could have at least found a train with box cars in it.

yeah, if you think about it, there aren't many old boxcars lying around that can be cut together to make a real looking train without a great deal of expense for such a small scene...maybe they thought people wouldn't notice. But not on trains.com![;)]

I don't think it would have been too hard to find a manifest train with mixed cars.

Some of the oldest equipment riding the rails today is about 40 years old. There aren't too many 40 foot box cars left. Brakewheel requirements forced most of them into retirement in the 60's,and they were replaced by 50' and longer.

Now if Ray had been a railroad man, maybe they would have at least paid a little more attention to that kind of detail.[:p][;)]

[twhite]

Hollywood has never been one for much railroad authenticity. All you have to do is look at some of the older films from the '40's and '50's. Even Alfred Hitchcock in "Strangers on a Train" has the "Daylight" pulling into a station on the East Coast, where the film is presumably set. Sierra Railroad #3 was built by Rogers in 1895, yet it was constantly used in westerns set in the 1860's. About the most authentic use of rolling stock I've seen is a 1939 western called UNION PACIFIC which used old 1870's Virginia and Truckee locos and stock--at least they were relatively close (ten years) to the actual time period of the film. When you see scenes like this in a movie, all you can do is shrug your shoulders and say, "Oh, well--" Hollywood doesn't really care. A train is a train is a train--
Tom

[railman]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

There are some people in Hollywood that aren't doing their homework. On the other hand, finding vintage trains is impossible on real working railroads. It is much easier to find vintage automobiles to fill the streets.

They could have at least found a train with box cars in it.

yeah, if you think about it, there aren't many old boxcars lying around that can be cut together to make a real looking train without a great deal of expense for such a small scene...maybe they thought people wouldn't notice. But not on trains.com![;)]

[Big_Boy_4005]

There are some people in Hollywood that aren't doing their homework. On the other hand, finding vintage trains is impossible on real working railroads. It is much easier to find vintage automobiles to fill the streets.

They could have at least found a train with box cars in it.

[cspmo]

The same thing was in the movie ,Oliver Stone"JFK"

[railman]

Caught by a railfan! Great observation, brothaslide.

[brothaslide]

There is a scene in the movie Ray which is from the early 1950s. He and his band are driving in a truck under a train bridge while a train is rolling overhead. The only thing is that the train is a modern Double Stack intermodal.

The movie was excellent!!!

Sean