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wire size from controller (Zephir) to terminal strip, please? bus wire is 12ga . . thank you,jjrs

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wire size from controller (Zephir) to terminal strip, please? bus wire is 12ga . . thank you,jjrs
Posted by upfifties on Thursday, May 1, 2014 1:27 PM

 

5-1-2014

 

Hi all!

 

 
This is the extent of my question: what wire to use from the terminal strips to the power pack/controller?
I intend to use 16-14ga stranded wire to connect two grounding terminal strips (one for each polarity) from the Zephyr. Same size/type of wire to connect each of the grounding terminal strips to two two-screw terminal strips to allow for dividing the track into several "blocks",  to which my 12ga bus wires are connected . . . this may sound confusing; let me explain: the 12ga solid wire is very stiff, but, if I go from the terminal strips to the two grounding terminal strips with a few inches of the smaller wire, it will provide me some flexibility to locate/move my wiring around. . . thank you, jjrs

 

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Posted by mlehman on Thursday, May 1, 2014 1:59 PM

In cases like this, it is acceptable to solder on a short extension of lighter gauge wire to connect directly from the bus to the command station or booster.

Resistance in wire depends on two things: resistance of the wire itself based on diameter/gauge and the length of the wire. A short wire can carry a high load that a longer length of it cannot. I faced the same situation and so do most DCC users, as command stations connection rarely accept wire the size commonly used in busses.

Use the largest gauge wire that will fit the connection. Use as short a length as possible. Even two feet is getting long, so shorter is better. Make a good connection to the fat wire, preferably by soldering. Properly insulate everything.

Mike Lehman

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Posted by dstarr on Thursday, May 1, 2014 2:15 PM

Ordinary zip cord (lamp cord) which is usually 16 gauge stranded will work fine.  18 guage is enough for that matter.  Your 12 gauge bus wire is electrical overkill.  I find 12 gauge too stiff to work easily even with long nose pliers.  I use 14 gauge just cause it's easier to bend.  We use  such heavy wire for buses 'cause it's common house wire, easy to get, and mechanically very rugged.  But both 14 and 12 gauge is much heavier than we need from an electrical standpoint.  So a lesser gauge jumper from your 12 gauge bus wire to the power pack is just fine.

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Posted by carl425 on Thursday, May 1, 2014 5:29 PM
If you were going to solder to track I'd do it the way you suggest. If I'm connecting to terminal strips I'd just solder or crimp spade lugs to the 12 gauge wire.

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