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Elliot´s Trackside Diner - November 2013

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:50 PM

Hhhhhmmmmmmmmm......  Another downgrade I see.  Can't go to the last reply without an extra click and they made all the titles bigger so that they show up easier on dumb phones!

Oh well!  I'll probably get used to it...  or not....

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:57 PM

Ooops.  "Error on Page" message when trying to quote a previous post with the "Add Quote to your Post" button.  Windows 7, IE 8.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:01 PM
Just got back from a retirement lunch for a friend at work. He's one of the guys I eat lunch with most days, so our whole table from the caf took him out for real food for his "last meal" at work. He took the "voluntary layoff" package they offered last month to reduce head count. He was planning to retire in March anyway, so the package gave him 3 more months pay for 3 fewer months worked. I'm that age myself, and I considered it, but I've still got my daughter's college loans to pay off. I want to finish that before I go.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:03 PM
Ooops again. Let's try again. On the last "Quick Reply" post, the line breaks I put in to generate paragraphs got swallowed. This should be 3 paragraphs...

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Posted by kbkchooch on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:06 PM

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howmus

Hhhhhmmmmmmmmm......  Another downgrade I see.  Can't go to the last reply without an extra click and they made all the titles bigger so that they show up easier on dumb phones!

Oh well!  I'll probably get used to it...  or not....

72.5

 

 

Its uh,,,,,,,different, I'll give it that! Mischief

Hey, look on the bright side, that annoying little green bar hasn't come back!  Yet.............Confused

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:07 PM

Here, I'm using the full Reply option.

 

Again, I am inserting paragraphs.

3 of them once again, although the display shows that inserting a line break results in double spaced lines in this mode, as opposed to single spaced lines in the Quick Reply mode.

 

Make that 4 paragraphs.  Where is the little pencil to edit posts?  Oh, never mind.  There's an Edit button again.

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:10 PM

kbkchooch
Hey, look on the bright side, that annoying little green bar hasn't come back! Yet.............Confused

LOL, I'll give them +1 for that!  Will be fun to see how many bugs and such got added with this one.  You just about get used to a version so you know where things are and they go and mess it all up..... SighWhistling

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[edit] Mr. Beasley, they're just trying to keep us on our toes, or off the rails, or sumpin'...

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:33 PM

Evenin'....

Chloe, I'll have the hot roast beef sandwich w/ french fries and a cup of decaf for the moment.

Gee, I seem to be posting after my own post here!  Must be everyone is waiting for them to get everythingt back up and running with all the corrections, changes, undos and stuff that these downgrades always seem to have over the first few weeks.  Wow!  This new version even tells me how many words I have used... Probably important for those being charged by the word on the Dumb Schmartypants Phone thingies.  IguessIcoulduselesswordsbynottypingspacesbetweenthem.  Yep!  That works!

Currently 34°F here in the Finger Lakes.  The high earlier was 38°F under sunny skies so I can't complain.  Low tonight will be 29°F.  I have the wood stove lit for the evening.  I do have to go out for the Boy Scout District Committee Meeting tonight, but it will be nice to come home to a warm house. 

I spent a couple hours this afternoon putting some 1/2" pipe insulation on the lower grille on the PiP for Grille Blocking.  Supposed to increase mpg about 4 to 6 mpg over the Winter months.  It alows the ICE to warm up quicker and stay warmer longer so it won't run as often.  Time will tell.  I have seen a drop in mpg already with the temps falling 30° or so on average.  I'm only blocking the lower grille so the Inverter will get all the cooling it needs.  For the Inverter (radiator by the upper grille) the cooler the better for long life.

I also took a walk around the block this morning.  The Doc says i should be walking 30 minutes at least 3 times a week.  I need to add that to my daily schedule.  Today I got about 15 minutes in and was glad to get back to the house...  Both winded and cold!

Catch you all later!

73

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Posted by chochowillie on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:26 PM

howmus
I spent a couple hours this afternoon putting some 1/2" pipe insulation on the lower grille on the PiP for Grille Blocking. 

OK Ray, so tell me since it's -30C here today, how do they put heat into the interior of the PIP? Off the inverter? Years ago, I drove a VW with the old air cooled engine and just about froze to death in the winter. The so called heater could barely keep the frost off the windshield.

Just wondering? Big Smile

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:41 PM

Vincent .... I tried to quote your last paragrph. Oh well.

I suggest you obtain a copy of Kalmbach's "Detailing Diesel Locomotives" by Jeff Wilson. The book is full of stuff you like to do.

In particular, it tells how to modify a Kato GP35 to follow CB&Q prototypical practices. The headlight is part of the project. He used a Detail Associates 1003 headlight on the nose of the GP35. That should agree with the SD40.

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Posted by galaxy on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:44 PM

Ok, Ok. I tried to sign on earlier and found the message about "maintenace"..I did NOT know it meant a total reformation opf the site! BUT..i had a sneaky suspicion and idea it meant so! A premonition!

Dunno If I will like it or not, but I am sure I will get used to it. Somehow. Someday. Maybe.

 hmm. Glad i checked tonihgt instead of the morning while bleery-eyed!

Maybe I will have a look-seee.

Don't see a COLORED script option! I will miss that and have to reformat my morning bright and cheery messages!

Geeked

-G .

Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:38 PM

chochowillie
OK Ray, so tell me since it's -30C here today, how do they put heat into the interior of the PIP? Off the inverter? Years ago, I drove a VW with the old air cooled engine and just about froze to death in the winter. The so called heater could barely keep the frost off the windshield.

Yep, I drove several of them little VW Bugs way back when....  That's where I learned to live without heat while driving a car!  Smile, Wink & Grin  Actually, near the end of the line for the Bug, the heaters were pretty good as they pulled heat off the exhast manifold rather than the air cooling the engine.  As far as the PiP goes.  In EV only you get a seat heater.  Keeps my tush nice and warm, but that is about it....  However the ICE when running heats up very quickly and provides very good heating for the interior of the car just lijke any gas burning vehicle.  If I am just going across town, like to the meeting tonight, I just use the seat heater and stay in EV.  If I was driving to Canandaigua or Rochester, etc., I would let the ICE fire up and warm the cabin.  I would for a longer trip still get the advantage of the electric charge as it would be used as part of the power used to move the car.  Odly enough the cooling fluid in the PiP can be cycled by the exhaust manifold like in the old VWs to help heat the water jacket quickly so with the ICE running heat comes up very quickly (like about 3 minutes).

73

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Posted by Cederstrand on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:39 PM

Chamomile tea, please.

Hope everyone is doing well these days. Can't seem to make it in here as often as I would prefer. Well, I'll be over by the wood stove, probably nodding off. Have a nice night all.

Cheers! Cowboy Rob

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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:05 PM

Evening guys

Been working on a few cars, mostly sticking kadees on them. I did assemble a con-cor covered gondola kit, but I'm going to weather the "wood" bracing and the rest of the car tomorrow. I'll also weather 3 of the kadee cars a friend gave me wo weather. I still have a P2K covered hopper, accurail autorack, and a McKean centerbeam flat.

Garry, Thanks for the info.

Ray, I was curious about heat in hybrids as well. I'm suprised they don't just use an electric heater adapted to car use... My car (and AFAIK most fords from at least the 70s until the late 90s) runs the engine cooling fluid into a heat exchanger (heater coil, a real pain to replace) in the cabin under the dash. when the heater is on, the air is sucked through said heat exchanger. My car doesn't get warm though, it gets really hot on the inside with it on. But being in florida I only use it a few times a year. The plus to this system is it can be used to cool the engine if it overheats (like mine did when it blew it's water pump gasket).

anyways, I'm hitting the hay

Vincent

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:13 PM

Nothing more to report from the day. Time to call it a night. See y'all tomorrow.





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Posted by kbkchooch on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:54 PM

Almost 1 am, been working since 9 to fix a misbehaving Kato SD40 (electrical pickup issues) but now were picking up power on all 12 wheels (was 6 before), no longer hesitating at turnouts, or driving the Tsunami crazy with power losses. Been like this awhile, finally got a   

Sandman is calling,,,,Ray, don't drink all of Bill T's coffee

,,,I'm gonna need some!Sleep 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:36 AM

Good Morning Folks!

What a surprise on this frosty Thursday morning! I had a hunch something like this would be coming up, as the old version was not "user friendly" for all those of us, who use a smart phone or tablet PC. I am not sure whether I like the new format. Needs some time to get used to.

No plans for the day. Maybe I´ll go over to my friends house to do some finishing touches on that little 0-6-0 steamer. Those gaps need to be filled prior to giving it a coat of primer...

 

Make it a great day!

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Posted by Kyle on Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:34 AM

Sir Madog

Good Morning Folks!

What a surprise on this frosty Thursday morning! I had a hunch something like this would be coming up, as the old version was not "user friendly" for all those of us, who use a smart phone or tablet PC. I am not sure whether I like the new format. Needs some time to get used to.

No plans for the day. Maybe I´ll go over to my friends house to do some finishing touches on that little 0-6-0 steamer. Those gaps need to be filled prior to giving it a coat of primer...

 

Make it a great day!

 

I use an I-Phone, and the new forums software is more annoying, and less user friendly than the old one.  It takes me twice as long to postbecause ofstupid spell check, and it is impossible RO go back to the topics.  I also can't see the right side of some pictures and post as they are cut off.

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Posted by galaxy on Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:57 AM

I tried posting this once, but *poof* it went bye bye when I clicked to post! and the color is there by accident?

morning coffee in the diner..

GOOD THURDAY MORNING!!!

Today is Thursday, November 21st, 2013!!!

Today's fun limmerick:

Limericks alone make me wary
discussing often gets hairy
so utterly cheesy
I get so uneasy
I'm thinking of giving up dairy 

Today's weird words:

Gossoon: a boy or male servent

villein: a serf, a  member of the lowest fuedal class; an agricultural laborer

heresiarch: the founder of a heresy; the leader of a heretical sect

Used in a snetence:

The gossoon villein  started the revolting heresiarch group.

Geeked

 ** Hmmm: I see a problem! it seems the bolded lines run into each other! A FIX is needed for THAT!

 

-G .

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:32 AM

Kyle
I use an I-Phone, and the new forums software is more annoying, and less user friendly than the old one. It takes me twice as long to postbecause ofstupid spell check, and it is impossible RO go back to the topics. I also can't see the right side of some pictures and post as they are cut off.

To me these are small problems. They're just minor nuisances to be dealt withSuper Angry. Imagine how that pilot who landed his 747 at the wrong airport feels this morningEmbarrassed. The plane can't take off because the runway is too shortDead. Now that's a problem!Oops

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:35 AM

I like the big font.  It's much easier to read.  Of course, here in the "Reply" box, the font is N-scale.  I'll have to try that in Firefox, because I've noticed that some stuff in this new forum software is more Firefox-friendly than IE.

I am just getting so excited!  I've had a U28B on pre-order at my LHS since the Clinton era, it seems.  (DeWitt, not Bill.)  Walthers is showing it scheduled for next Thursday, which is, of course, Thanksgiving.  I should have it a week after that, assuming it doesn't slip again.

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:39 AM

Good Morning! from Tipton IN.

Mischief

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Posted by kbkchooch on Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:43 AM

Cowboy Good Morning y'all! Cowboy

Coffee Flo, please! 5 hours of sleep requires at least 3 cups!  CoffeeCoffeeCoffee Plus some PizzaPizza and I'll be good as new!

Speaking of new, wazzup with the new format?? Question

No spell check (gotta be mpore careful now), Bright colors & fonts are missing Dots - Sign yet we can post videos?

 (which I've tried several times with no luck)

At least it will kick up the level of chatter for a bit!Laugh

Question is, who gave Galaxy a pink Hi-Lighter??Oops - SignLaugh

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:47 AM

kbkchooch
Question is, who gave Galaxy a pink Hi-Lighter??

That's what I'd like to know!

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:54 AM

jeffrey-wimberly
Imagine how that pilot who landed his 747 at the wrong airport feels this morningEmbarrassed. The plane can't take off because the runway is too short  Dead. Now that's a problem!Oops

Yes, he's got issues.  However, the runway length numbers they quoted were for a fully-loaded plane.  They may be able to get it off if they empty it out.  It's a cargo jet, so empty is really empty.  Something similar happened nearby in New Hampshire, when a passenger jet landed at the tiny Nashua airport by mistake, instead of their intended destination of Manchester.  They had to strap JATO packs to it to take off.

Planespotters should look at that one, though.  It's a specially-modified 747, with an elevated roofline the entire length of the fuselage, not just the short upper deck which is the hallmark of 747s. 

And yeah, my IE8 at work can't quote in these posts, but Firefox can.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:19 AM

Good morning. It's 60° with 100% humidity and patchy fog. The high will be 75°.
 with

Got online late last night and quickly discovered the Model railroader forums have been upgraded - again. Just as I was comfortable with their old setup they throw in this new curve ball. So far it looks like about half the stuff on it doesn't work properly or not at all. Some of the features like spell check, preview and a couple others aren't working from what I can see. I haven't had a chance to wade through it all yet so I'm sure there's more to find.

I may work on Oliver's layout adventure later. That depends on the weather. Looks like a good possibility of thunderstorms today. No other plans - so far.


Now that's some serious community service!



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Posted by TMarsh on Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:26 AM
Good Morning!!!
 
 
Indifferent Hmm Confused Welp……., it’s not overly colorful I’ll give it that. Kinda bright too. Oh well, Huh? I’ll get used to it.
 
Coffee and biscuits and gravy please. Thanks.
 
Gary- Oh you’re funny! Me not good with any computer fix that requires more than a reboot.Laugh
 
I wonder…Hmm..maybe my issues with signing in were related to this new remodel. Maybe I’ll check out IE today. See if I can get in. I have a notsosmartphone, but I don't use it here so I wouldn't know if it's more friendly or not.
 
Then, I got a basement to cover the blocks with cement or, as his wife calls it…plaster the walls. No, they aren’t fixing it up for a train room. Already asked. I just got a squinky face and a “that’s your thing, not mine”. Hey, not everyone knows what’s good for them.

 

Ya’ll have a good day, ya hear!!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:33 AM

Good afternoon Folks!

Janie, how about some coffee in my SWOK mug, please.

I am still not sure whether I like the new format. I had comfortably settled in handling the old version. I miss the spellchecker, and the post are not automatically sorted the way I want them to. I have to press an additional button each time I change a page or a thread Grumpy

I have been playing with my track planning programm, attempting to develop a diorama for that 0-6-0 steamer. Out came another micro-layout, using the Peco track I have.

Here it is:

Wow, inserting a picture really does work!

I could built this one with all the material I have on hand - a tempting thought...

 

CUL!

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Posted by TMarsh on Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:38 AM
Well, IE is back to what it did Sunday except now I can sign in. I just can't access the forums while signed in, nor can I sign in if I enter the forum then try to sign in. I just sits there and thinks. Or...., whatever a computer does. Hey, at least I can sign in which is more than it did Sunday through.....whenever they did the change.

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Posted by howmus on Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:42 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Zoe, I'll have the....  huh?  I have to place my order with a Schhhmartypants phone now???  All I own is a dumb type phone.  All I can do is talk on it.  Well, it can take pics, but there is no way to get them on my computer so I just delete any that are accidentally taken.  No I don't text or have voice feemail on it either!  Oh!  You were kidding about the downgrades...  Then I'll have a short stack of buttermilk pancakes with real NYS Maple Syrup and a pot of my dark raost coffee to get me going this morning.

Packer
Ray, I was curious about heat in hybrids as well. I'm suprised they don't just use an electric heater adapted to car use... My car (and AFAIK most fords from at least the 70s until the late 90s) runs the engine cooling fluid into a heat exchanger (heater coil, a real pain to replace) in the cabin under the dash.

Packer, I know there was model of the prius back a few years ago where they used an electric heater.  Folks at the Prius chat group have said it ended up being more expensive and didn't work better than the old core off the ICE.  AFAIK most of the Hybrids with an extended EV Range just use the standard old fashioned engine heat ones.  Of course pure EVs use Electric elements for cabin heat.  The small EV range in the PiP would use the battery too fast too be useful I think.  It would also likely kick on the ICE early in very cold weather.  That seems to be an issue with the PiP so when the temp gets down around freezing the ICE tends to fire unless you start off in "Golf Cart" mode for a mile or so.  In fact I have been following a thread about that very issue over there.  During Winter if I am driving to Rochester or Canandaigua, I generally just turn on the climate control to Auto and let the ICE run (That starts the ICE).  Over that distance I would have to use some gas anyway and the electric charge adds to the mpg so it comes out about the same as if I froze in EV and then let the ICE run the rest of the way...

Hey!  The sun just came out for a while...  Think I shall enjoy it while I can.  Currently 38°F outside with a predicted high of 45 later this afternoon.

Later!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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