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New mainline rework

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 1:28 PM

While I like the Vollmer bridge, I agree with you Randy.  It lacks the buk of the Atlas truss bridge.

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 9:46 AM

 You can all shoot me, but the Atlas bridge looks more like the one in the prototype photo (not the exploding one!). The Vollmer one is a lot more airy and open, because it represents a lighter rated bridge using smaller structural members.

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:38 AM

richhotrain

I was able to snap a photo of the Atlas truss bridge at the moment of its demolition by Michael.

Rich

Rich,

I see that you finally got some use out of that Chemistry Set..Laugh

Michael,,Good job so far,,looking good.Yes

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:48 AM

YesYesYesBeer

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 11:49 PM

OK the bridge is finished. Weathered up and all.

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 9:48 PM

Thanks everybody! I appreciate that. I just finished weathering the bridge with powders. I will install the bridge track and walkways. Then I'll post up more photos.

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Posted by Schuylkill and Susquehanna on Monday, September 30, 2013 8:54 PM

Looks great!

Looking at the photos, it looks like there is a wooden beam on either side of the tracks by the walkways.  These are the outside guard rails, and are about 5" x 8".  To model them, I'd recommend using 1/16 x 3/32 basswood or 3/32 x 3/32 basswood and stain it using an india ink wash.

I have a similar bridge I need to work on, and this is a really great thread for reference.

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Posted by mlehman on Monday, September 30, 2013 8:46 PM

A longer bridge always looks better IMO.

Those walkways look great. Given how far back in the scene the bridge is, more detailed walkways might be a waste of good parts. Use them up front for something else.

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 7:50 PM

UPinCT

See problem solved looks great!

I do have a question, Is the new bridge longer in length than the old one or are they the same length?

Just curious, Derek

Thanks Derek! There's always a solution to MRR problems right?

This bridge was longer than the Atlas bridge, by about 3 inches. So I had to re-adjust the abutments back a little.

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Posted by UPinCT on Monday, September 30, 2013 7:46 PM

See problem solved looks great!

I do have a question, Is the new bridge longer in length than the old one or are they the same length?

Just curious, Derek

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 7:43 PM

I just painted and weathered the walkways. I think it looks real good. I'm going with this I think.

The prototype bridge I'm looking to match.

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Posted by UPinCT on Monday, September 30, 2013 7:11 PM

Hey Rich,  That's a good job out of you getting that pic of Michael's bridge demo.

Hi Michael, I like the bridge without the walkways but what do I know.  You are going to get opinions on both ways.  Why don't you go with what way you like or how a bridge in your neck of the woods looks like.

My two cents, Derek

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 6:33 PM

I got the brass walkways delivered today. And I got ripped off, I don't have enough for both sides, only one side. So I'm getting a refund.

I found a solution. I have a bunch of extra parts from the Milwakee Station, and I found some pieces that fit perfectly for the walkways.

I need some opinions. What should I do???? leave it as is, or add these parts. I will paint them same grey color as the bridge, and weather them up with rust powders.

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Posted by mlehman on Monday, September 30, 2013 5:47 PM

I'll bet that was hard to explain when the Fire Dept. showed up...Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, September 30, 2013 5:09 PM

I was able to snap a photo of the Atlas truss bridge at the moment of its demolition by Michael.

Rich

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Posted by zstripe on Monday, September 30, 2013 2:40 PM

Michael,

Yeah but,,,now we won't know what Rich's comment,would have been,,,,,it appears,now you made me the sacrificial lamb,,,,Laugh

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 2:24 PM

Fixed, that just didn't look right. Ooops. LOL

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Posted by zstripe on Monday, September 30, 2013 2:14 PM

Michael,

You mean,, Chi-Town,eh..But in Rich's case,,I don't know,,,Laugh Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Motley on Monday, September 30, 2013 1:45 PM

Well there's a lot more bridges in Chi-town, then here in Denver. We have like two or three rivers in the entire state. So were on un-experienced out here in the west.

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, September 30, 2013 12:28 PM

Mike, I agree with you on that.  And, I am sure that is the reason that Michael replaced the Atlas bridge with the Vollmer bridge.

But, being from Shi-caw-ga, we like our bridges built outta blood and iron up here, not that pansy steel work being installed in the Denver area.   Laugh

Rich

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Posted by mlehman on Monday, September 30, 2013 11:55 AM

Rich,

The Atlas is not a bad bridge, in fact it may even be to scale (I've not seen that particular bridge up close, so not sure). It's just that the Vollmer bridge has a more delicate look to it that pleases my eye better.

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, September 30, 2013 3:35 AM

While I will agree that the new Vollmer bridge looks darn good, I didn't see anything wrong with the Atlas bridge.  Both are pretty good looking bridges.

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Posted by mlehman on Monday, September 30, 2013 12:33 AM

Michael.

I agree. Replacing that bridge with a better looking one is a great upgrade. It makes that scene, so a better bridge makes that scene better.Yes

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Posted by UPinCT on Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:02 PM

Looking great so far.  I do like the new bridge better.  Keep up the great work and keep us posted with pics.

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Posted by Motley on Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:30 PM

No slackin here, been going at it for several days, non stop.

Got the river carved out.

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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:47 PM

Geez, that looks good, Michael.  You are really picking up the slack.   Laugh

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Posted by Motley on Sunday, September 29, 2013 1:38 PM

I removed the Atlas bridge, and now test fitting the Vollmer bridge. Damn it looks better already.

I also re-painted the bridge abutments and weathered them with powders. Then I flared them out, and used light weight sparkling to fill it in.

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Posted by Motley on Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:37 AM

Yes the bridge in the background you see in the photo, against the wall, is the Atlas bridge. I just wanted a better bridge there.

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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:11 AM

Michael, that is looking great, but help us out here a little.

In your most recent reply, you mentioned that the middle straight track will have an ME 160' Girder bridge spanning the river. And the inside curved track nearest the edge, will have a wood curved deck bridge. The Vollmer truss bridge will replace the Atlas truss bridge.

Which bridge is that in the background, and will it stay?

Why are you replacing the Atlas truss bridge?

Rich

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Posted by Doughless on Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:41 PM

Michael, I've been following this rework and I think it is coming along very nicely.  Having that big operating pit is a great idea for accessibility and you'll get better scene separations too.  Change presents opportunity...and with your skills at making scenery, I think its going to look great.

- Douglas

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