It is often claimed that modelling the "Modern Diesel Era" is now getting to be more popular than the "Transition Era" because we tend to model what we know and are familiar with.
Now I don't wish to reignite that debate,but am more interested in why do you model what you model ????
I"m a New Zealander and am far from being unusual here "down under" in modeling the North American prototype, in my case a Free lanced north Eastern road in the "Transition Era.
Why??? When I renewed my interest in model railways, and finally had some disposable(??) income I visited the local club, where they had, at that time, the following layouts,an N and OO British, a HO Marklin, and a HO North American.
Now as New Zealand was a former British colony and especially after WWll had a large number of European immigrants, I could understand the British and European layouts, but North American ????? What sold me, ( and I don't wish to reignite the "I miss Athearn BB" debate either) was the price, running abilities and reliability of the aforementioned and "like brands", locos and rolling stock. An article by W Allen McClelland on his "Virginian & Ohio" was also a big influence.
Why not "New Zealand Railways" ??? well everything has to be virtually scratch built and what RtR locos there are are very expensive!!! I take my hat off to the hardy souls that do, do a great job, but too much for me!!
So What and Why do you model what you do????
Remember the is no "right " answer and there fore no prizes or second place, and this time I will now thank you all for your contributions.
Have Fun
Cheer, the Bear.
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Why do I model the Northern Pacific? I was a very small child when I was exposed to both the Northern Pacific and Great Northern Railways, driving along highways where their mainlines were located. Having been born in 1950, I have some hazy recollection of steam still in use on these lines. However, most of my knowledge about them has been gleaned from being a model railroader. When I first started my present layout, I was totally freelanced in my thinking. Then, I came across and bought "The Mainstreeter", the magazine put out by the Northern Pacific Railway Historical Association and I realized I was very interested in this line. The N.P. won out over the G.N. as I don't like the Belpaire fire boxes on G.N. steam locomotives.
Why do I model the Transition Era? I would have no interest in Model Railroading, if it would not include Steam Locomotives! However, I also like early diesels; F units early Jeeps and Alcos, so the transition simply makes sense for me.
NP 2626 "Northern Pacific, really terrific"
Northern Pacific Railway Historical Association: http://www.nprha.org/
NP2626 I model the Northern Pacific in the transition era.
I model the Northern Pacific in the transition era.
But WHY????
Cheers, the Bear,.
"JaBear" It is often claimed that modelling the "Modern Diesel Era" is now getting to be more popular than the "Transition Era" because we tend to model what we know and are familiar with.
Well, neither apply to me. I model the New York Central in the early 40s because:
I'm not old enough to have seen the latter "live" first-hand. I also grew up in the Florida and the NYC didn't even make it further south than Kentucky and West Virginia.
I do find steam and early diesel more interesting than modern stuff. And there was much more variety to the locomotives back then.
Tom
https://tstage9.wixsite.com/nyc-modeling
Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.
I model the Bangor & Aroostook line (with the Aroostook Valley shortline thrown in for seasoning) in Northern Maine during the late transition era, circa mid 1950's.
Why? Well, because I grew up in Aroostook County, Maine during that time period. I remember marveling at the BAR's BL-2's, GP-7's and the AVR's little 44 Tonners shuffling frieght around the Fort Fairfield/Caribou/Presque Isle area. I was also fortunate enough to have seen some of the last runs of the BAR's sole remaining Consolidated 2-8-0 steam loco, which was finally retired in 1956. So, it's kind of a nostalgic thing for me and I enjoy modeling & recreating that area, as I remember it then.
Carl
"I could never belong to any club that would have me as a member."
What?
I model the pre-Chessie B&O [1968-72]. Why, you ask? Coupla reasons:
1) It's the one railroad I got to know really well, especially after I got my drivers license and was able to chase trains. Brings back a flood of happy memories.
2) I loved the dark blue diesels with yellow trim, because they reminded me of the C&O in Michigan where I lived until I was 13.
3) The paint scheme was very easy to duplicate (unlike the original blue-and-gray), no special talent needed. Blast 'em with Floquil Dark Blue, throw on some Champ decals and your good-to-go!
4) They still had a broad variety of 1st Generation EMD - F's, Geeps, SD7's and 9's, And they each had their own unique spotting features.
Since I came back to the hobby in 1988, I've had the impression that the B&O during this period seemed like the "forgotten middle child" among modelers. Lots of people modeled the Transition era, and another group modeled the Chessie era (which I hated because they killed the Western Maryland). Maybe that's because this was a very unhappy period in railroading history due to declining freight business and loss of passenger trains?
-Ken in Maryland (B&O modeler, former CSX modeler)
I model the W&N in 1900-1905.
Why? Because I grew up in SE Pennsylvania, the PC and PRR were too big, the LV and CNJ were too far gone. The RDG was the right size and traffic mix, a little of everything. The W&N branch of the RDG was the longest single track branch of the RDG, it was both rural and heavily industrialized.
Why 1900? Because I like the smaller equipment. It has big advantages in radii, track length, switch size. Its unusual and different. I am not building just another 1950, 1960 or 2000 era layout. I like to kitbash and scratchbuild so it presents better opportunities to do that.
Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
I model the Conrail Lowgrade line from Dubois to East Brady PA - which is in western PA.
The time period is 1975 to 1985 which was the peak of Coal Operations in this area so the 6 shortlines in the modeled area were running coal as fast as they could with 100 car trains the norm!
This also made it easy to model prototypicaly as I just had to hop in the car and drive down the road a few miles to see the area I needed a few more pictures of.
The terrain has lots of hills so there are lots of Bridges and Tunnels as well as cuts and fills. Just what most modelers love! And Lots of Trees!
There were a lot of industries yet (they are all gone now along with the Railroads) so there was lots of additional freight (which makes for a fun Layout to Operate on).
AND WHY?
No one will ever want to model a little Bridge line of the old PRR railroad which connected the two North/South PRR/PC/Conrail mainlines
Pittsburgh to Buffalo & Harrisburg to Buffalo mainlines.
While some try and model the mainline traffic convincingly - Few ever are able to devote the necessary area that is needed. Doing a feeder Bridge Route one can run any type of Train (as the line is a BRIDGE between Major Mainlines ) and Yet have the slower pace of a backwoods railroad (running the latest equipment) and the charm of 6 little Shortlines that fed the 100 car trains of coal to this Bridge Line.
LEF&C - P&S - Falls Creek RR - Sligo & Rimersburg - B&P - Reynolsville & Falls Creek RR - B&LE Kaylor Branch as well as parts of the Pittsburgh/Buffalo mainline from Kiski Jct to Phillipston yard.
And it all within an hours drive from my house!
BOB H - Clarion, PA
Hi Jabear
Well you defy the way things are supposed to be
All the evidence I have come up with which isn't really a whole lot states that all the models no matter which nationality.
Come from the persons youth so there is an element of nostalgia to it just for starters
I think this explains why the models are the figure I heard quoted was generally thirty years or so behind where the real ones are.
So according to that you should be modelling NZR approximately thirty years or so ago??,
and although I live Aus I should be modelling the BR during the transition from BR green To BR blue livery
Extremely off topic do you know where the NZ Triang factory was and what the dirty great big NZ steam loco that looks a little bit like a C38 is.
Any way back to topic I have gone through fazes where it is UK trains US trains Or European trains
All in the previous mentioned time frame-ish period with a bit of a slip towards the steam end of things.
In the case of the US it has to be the bright colourful world that is created UK freight stock of the same period is generally grey or bauxite coloured.
But I do like steam the baby oil smell coal smell the movement ITS ALIVE!!!
I don't model Australian trains the local ones see your own comments SN31/2 just like the accurate NZ ones.
The national standard gauge network well I can pick up a foreign IE UK, US, Euro loco of reasonable size and quality for $100Au the local HO standard gauge RTR locos are $300Au.
Big difference and you don't get $300Au worth of quality in my opinion.
They are probably made in the same Chinese factories that a lot of the US UK and Euro Stuff is these days.
Ok so why do I keep at it with the trains I like it and enjoy it I never really stopped came very close during that period when cars and girls suddenly become a whole lot more interesting.
regards John
Once upon a time, I modeled the modern era. But, that was back in the 1950s, when I bought my first HO train set. Why the Milwaukee? I liked the color scheme. I was growing up on Long Island, outside of New York City, and I knew nothing of freight railroads at all, since the Long Island Railroad was a commuter line and handled very little freight. It's logo was a guy named "Dashing Dan" above it's slogan, The Route of the Dashing Commuter. As he was running while checking his wristwatch, we may assume that "dashing" referred to his speed rather than his charming ways with the ladies.
I loved the subways. I still remember my favorite birthday, when my Dad took me into the city and we rode the subways all day. I think we only left the system for lunch. Tokens were 15 cents, so the excursion cost 60 cents. Not bad for a life-long memory.
When I pulled those same trains out of their 40-year slumber in attics and basements, I began to look at what's available now, and found the Life-Like (pre-Walthers buyout) R-17 sets. I knew then that I had to have subways beneath my layout. I built the subway system from memories of the NYC system, although I didn't set it in New York, but rather Moose Bay, a ficticious town somewhere in the midwest. You see, I still had all that Milwaukee equipment, although what I'd bought as "modern" was now "late transition era" thanks to the passage of time.
That would be the story, except for one fateful trip to the LHS. There she was, a dark beauty, and she gave a low whistle as I gazed at the in-store layout. I was smitten with a case of Steam. I had to have her, but she was spoken for, so I ordered her sister that very day. Years later, I now have what will be a dual-era layout, when I finish laying track and stop having everything on the layout at once for testing.
My diesels let me hang on to my lifelong relationship, but those steam engines give me the chance to have a fling with others, a romantic ride with someone with a tender behind.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
I model the mid 90's. I model a short line called the "Black Swamp RR". I grew up in the Great Black swamp region. There is some influence from the major railroads in the area. I chose to model the mid 90s due to its an era I like. I also chose to model a short line due to the "God factor". Its my layout..I can do what I want on it without some nitpicker saying that its not accurate....I am God of it..LOL. My railroad consists of some early diesels ( alco s-4..GP 15, 38, 40) whatever else my short line can afford on its limited budget.
Jeff
Good question...I was thinkg of starting a thread like this myself.
I'll try to make a long story short:
When I was 6, I visited the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago and loved the model railroad they had set up. I remember a Santa Fe Warbonnet F-something running all over a huge layout. Lots of scenery and animation. (40 years later I got a chance to visit it and it is the same as I remember)
Age 9 got my first train set, a lifelike double loop of track on syrofoam mountains. It was fun fun, but it wasn't what I saw in Chicago 3 years before.
In 1977, RMC ran its V&O series, starting with the story of the teenagers chasing trains in the Appalachians. Loved it.
When the issue came out with the trackplan, I ultimately got disappointed because I knew my parents would never let me have the space I needed for the kind of layout I wanted. Also, and which motivates me today, I thought it was too much layout for one person (at least for me) to build, maintain, and operate by myself.
Then, in 1980, MR published Andy Speradeo's San Jacinto District, and bingo!, that was the solution.
Enough mainline to watch a train run through different scenes. Some switching, a small yard, different destinations. All in a manageable space.
in 2013, that is still the only kind of layout I'm interested in owning. I like all kinds, but something that can be operated with a few locos at most, that moves cars around from industry to industry or to interchange is what I'm interested in building and owning. I really don't think that will change.
I set my layout in the modern era in the midwest because that's what I see. I could easlily adapt the San Jacinto theme to a 1920's logging railroad, or a 1950's urban wharf setting. I may do that at some point.
But right now, I enjoy researching the types of operations and equipment a modern era shortline might have and observing structures and things that the trains serve today. Researching, building, and operating that type of layout keeps me busy enough in the hobby.
I am a lone wolf, so having a layout that accomodates multiple operators is really not my goal.
- Douglas
When I was in kindergarten I lived smack dab on the Southern Pacific right of way. I mean it was on my back porch. I admit a very strong tendency to want to model the late 50's SP. I have to hold back when I see a bloody nose on the shelf. But even stronger is the desire to model small steam in big redwoods. From ages 1-4 I lived in California Western territory and I can remember my mother talking about riding the skunk. But I don't remember actually seeing it. But other than the pragmatic reasons for modeling small steam that Dave mentioned--tight turns and #4 turnouts, I really can't tell you why I am drawn to watching 2" tall 2-6-0's running under 3 ft high redwoods.
Chip
Building the Rock Ridge Railroad with the slowest construction crew west of the Pecos.
The Maryland & Pennsylvania in the early 50's.
Why?
1. The Ma&Pa was still running old steam: 4-4-0, 4-6-0, 0-6-0 sloped back tender, 2-8-0. All but 1 2-8-0 were built before WWI.
2. It had 4 diesel switchers SW1, NW2(2), SW9.
3. It had 2 gas electrics
4. It still used open platform truss rod passenger equipment.
5. Ma&Pa freight equipment had truss rods and archbar trucks.
6. It ran passenger trains.
7. It was known for very sharp curves.
8. Connecting roads were the B&O and PRR which had modern equipment (i.e. 50's modern)
All of this allows me to have a model railroad where sharp curves and short freight car trains (even down to 1 car) and 2 car passenger trains are the norm. I also can have equipment spanning a 50 year time frame.
Enjoy
Paul
I model places I've been or would like to see.
I model mostly Swiss and German prototypes because in 1968 almost everything in N-scale was European. By the late 1970's I was deeply entrenched in German steam.
My current large N-scale layout is very Swiss based.
I'm an avid hiker/camper and love mountains.
I model steam because I enjoy the movement of connecting rods and valve gear and it fits easily in almost any European setting.
On my N-Trak modules, I model modern American, Canadian, Japanese, and Disney.
I model a specific year, 1927 and a specific location, a 19 mile SP branch serving the citrus industry in S scale, why 1927? PFE reefers in their final year of yellow paint, it was the last year Pullman sleeper cars were operated. F class 2-10-2's were first assigned to handle the 700+ cars a year that local growers generated.
It's rare to rare to see modeling of this period...especially in a minority scale.
Dave
Why the SP&S? Well I feel I owe the real #802 and it's former counter parts a second chance at their former lives though in N scale. Plus I have to paint and decal everything because manufacturers for some reason or another keep forgetting that the SP&S was a BN merger road. That and since I got SP&S #50, I figured it would be a challenger to model something out there that isn't a popular or very common road at all.
Why the late steam period? Because it allows me some freedom to what can run like my GS-4, 4-8-2, and 4-8-4 along side Diesels of varying make and model. #50 was built in 1945 and served all the way up until 1970 before it was sold off. plus I have a USAF train, the pullman boxes were made in 1947 and I have a small 1:144 scale P-51D. There was a lot of military activity in this area.
I guess I'd like to think of it as a challenge, anything that isn't available I can paint and decal to make it into SP&S.
SP&S modeler, 1960's give or take a decade or two for some equipment.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SGTDUPREY?feature=guide
Gary DuPrey
N scale model railroader
Central Illinois 50's thru the 2000's Why the industries kind of still look the same from years ago. Roadnames are very numerous from TP&W Iowa Interstate. My roster has Cars and Deisels from each era so i switch them out. The Big ones too like CNW,UP,BN,CB&Q 60's and early 70's,NS,Santa Fe. I love the diversity so that is why i model my area
I freelance, or maybe more correctly protolance, the Mid Atlantic region in 1954 with my ATLANTIC CENTRAL which also interchanges and shares trackage with the B&O, WM and C&O.
Why, well not because of childhood memories since I was not even born yet 1954 - so much of that theory.
The location is because it is were I have spend my whole life living, it is what I know. And I do love the lush green nature of the country side here.
I been around a lot of the country, and most of it is beautiful, but I still like central Appalachia the best.
The time period - well you see I like history, and as my interest in trains grew, I studied rail history, and I found the early 50's to be the most interesting in terms of railroad history. Steam and diesel, beginnings of PIggyBack (Inter modal for you modern guys), passenger trains still run by the railroads, and still pretty flashy in most cases. and I like all the flashy post war freight car paint schemes that faded quickly to "dip jobs" by the 60's.
And I like east coast railroad motive power, as well as the double track, high volume, busy nature of an east coast Class I.
Sheldon
Granted I am only getting started, but my initial focus has been the northern Utah Union Pacific, 1945-1953. Why? Because my father's father was a brakeman for the UP in Utah during that time. (My grandfather had a number of occupations, including brakeman, postman, and homestead potato farmer.) Also, my mother's parents lived near the UP tracks in northern Utah and when we would go to visit in the summers, I can remember hearing the trains at night, granted this was much later than the 40's and 50's.
I say initial because my wife, who is also interested in the hobby, grew up near Albuquerque, and she was a little bummed with my selection of early UP diesel locomotives. To make her happy, we also have a pair of Santa Fe SD45's with a SF red caboose. When she saw these, she said, "Now that's what a train is supposed to look like!" She even refers to the SF train as "her train." Needless to say, our scenery will be a split between Utah farm land and New Mexico high desert. Different sections of the proposed layout, of course.
Richard
What do I model? - I model a fantasy, (freelance), narrow gauge road in Colorado during the WWII period. My road is a 59 mile short line created to move the increased mineral traffic during the war. The road mostly hauls the new secret critical metal uranium and the standard war metals of Copper, lead and zinc.
Why do I model it? - I love the tiny little mikes and consolidations fighting their way through the rugged terrain loaded down with critical ore headed towards the standard gauge roads which will carry the material to distant eastern mills. I do a short line as it gives me a lot of freedom from the prototype world. I need not struggle to follow extant roads or their rolling stock, though I do connect with the real RGS narrow gauge.
I have always loved the narrow gauge for more than 40 years of model railroading, but couldn't get in since the cost of the engines were very expensive (brass only). There was no rolling stock that wasn't a 60+ piece wood kit with no trucks and no couplers. Blackstone changed all of this in 2006. While still costly, there are now engines and rolling stock ready to run. I will make a lot of custom rolling stock as many short lines often made or modified cars to suit their specific needs. A shortline rarely needed more than 3 or 4 engines and 30 cars was often quite sufficient.
Nothing is as nice as an outside frame, K-28 with its off-set, smokebox mounted air pump! The trains are just "people sized" railroading.
If I can't fix it, I can fix it so it can't be fixed
Long story so I'll try to make it short as possible. As a child I started modeling the things I saw in front of me every day. One cannot grow up in Colorado and not model the D&RGW, C&S, and Santa Fe. Why, it is what I knew.
Read about the V&O in MRC and decided to go freelance. It took so much work I decided to switch to a prototype. Why - Prototype research is so much easier than inventing high quality histories.
In high school I went to Woolworth's over Christmas and discovered that passenger cars could be some other color than stainless steel. I instantly became a Great Northern modeler. Why - I fell in love with the big sky blue scheme.
Studying the GN I soon learned that their steam locomotives were distinctive (to say the least) and to model them would be either expensive brass, huge scratch/kit bashing/ or just "good enough" type things. None was desirable to me. So I switched to NP. Why - no readily available steam equipment.
Going the NP route I soon learned that there were different limitations (like no Alco PAs), and even though they had great "normal" looking steam power it was still not USRA type equipment that I could just buy off the shelves. Had some research issues too as NP territory was to far away to just run out and get pictures of, especially when they became the BN in 1970. Switched away again. Why? Geographically Undesireable.
So now I am favoring free lance again. Even though I used up most of my really good ideas for the Club's PV&W, I'm hoping I will find the creative juices again. Why, 45 years of reasearch I think I finally know enough to bring together something that works on all the different levels of a good Model Railroad. All the cohesiveness required for operations, scenry, rolling stock, roster, track planning, etc. I think I can finally pull off.
I'm on my first layout so that partly explains what I chose to do, The track is freelance in the transition era.
I grew up with the PRR a stone's throw from where I lived on the West side of town. It must have been the Southern most point in the area and stub ended with a passenger station,a freight station, and a manual turntable. Of course there were a couple of businesses nearby that were rail served. This adjoined a woods and made for a great place to have grown up.
On the East side of town there was the B&O with it's passenger station, freight house. The B&O was the dominant railroad and served most of the industries as there weren't many on the West side. The B&O ended up with the PRR trackage.
And then there is the Winchester & Western. It came about during WW I to bring lumber out of West Virginia for the war effort. It now hauls glass sand from a mine 8 miles West and is owned by the mine. It also does some switching for CSX successor to the B&O. The W&W first connected to the B&O later the CSX.
So that explains my interest in steam but after college and a stint in the Navy it was all diesel when I returned home and therefore I wanted diesels as well as the steam.
I have located two industries, a service station and diner as well as an oil distributor on the layout that are special to me. Other wise everything else is from my imagination
The rail history makes me feel 0k having PRR, B&O, C&0/B&O, W&W, and CSX locos .
Bob
Edit: The sand mine is in the planning stage
Don't Ever Give Up
My first train set was a Santa Fe train set.
I have often struggled with the fact that I live in the eastern U.S., far from Santa Fe territory, though I have seen a good portion of the Santa Fe in person on two road trips.
My favorite color is orange, and I have a special affinity for Illinois Central Gulf and Frisco, too.
I've dabbled with many different roads, including CN and NdeM, but in the end, always go back to Santa Fe.
Recently I just couldn't pass up the BLI E-6A that my evil friend, the train store sales manager had on the counter, open for display. It wasn't what I was looking for at all--and I've passed up beautiful brass, nickel plated and painted Santa Fe E units in the past...but this time was just different.
I give up--no more trying to do the "orange" railroads. For the last time I'm sticking with Santa Fe, and am buying more E units as I purge my entire roster of engines and rolling stock, to backdate to the 1960's.
The "correct" Santa Fe freight cars for the era have begun to arrive. Next I'm buying the lightweight passenger cars with factory installed grab irons and lights (once the additional E units are paid for by the Ebay sales).
It's my railroad, and if I want to dispatch E units or Alco PA's on freight, it's perfectly ok, and even prototypically correct. There are photos in the Goen book Santa Fe in the Lone Star State, Vol 1, that prove Santa Fe did just that--not to run out the last miles as one might expect (as is often quoted)--but simply when there were power shortages during the early and mid-1960's.
In the late '60's, the Alco PA's also ran out their last miles in Southern California on hot perishable trains of reefers. I can have the colorful mid to late 1960's freight cars on the layout, and still have the aging passenger units.
John
Hi gentlemen,
I am modeling between prototype scenes and sweet dreams.
Living in the Netherlands near Amsterdam tracks were everywhere; especially the rail-marine scenes were on the top of my list. However Dutch prototype railroading usually was dull dark brownish and dark greenish.
Since the 60's, still a teenager, I started buying Model Railroader magazine. Though it was printed in black and white in those days, American movies were showing me a new world with light and bright colours.
The Mama's and Papa's had a great song about Californian dreaming. The Dutch National Railways bought a lot of American designed engines just after WW2. Sadly enough not the well known Noab diesels bought by a lot of other more sophisticating European countries.
My Californian dream became finally clear. Why not consider a small part of the Dutch Nat Railway System as a privately owned company? Running exclusively those American designed engines and using 4-axels colourful freightcars, also USA designed.
My biggest issue turned out to be something else. Instead of a lot of selectively compressing I started to look at way smaller scenes (thank you Stein Jr). They were so nearby. Street running through a warehouse district where I used to visit a Jazz-club. A small branch to an entrepot-terminal in front of my aunts home. Those were build in the middle of the 19'th century. The small town fisherman's wharf of IJmuiden had a completely different size then the large "new" docks and warehouses in my home town Amsterdam built at the dawn of the 20'th century; two floors instead of 8.
All still very present in the 50's and 60's; all gone now or turned into condo's.
My avatar is such an engine BTW.
In the Europe before the EU, all countries had their own tax-regimes. Commodities from E.G. the UK going to Germany could be warehoused in Holland wihout being formally imported. This was done in area's sealed off by custom officers. This was called "in between depot" or in French: entre pot.
(yes our Dutch king is from German blood, while at the court French was spoken, those were the days!)
Smile
So, why do I model Central Japan in September, 1964 - with a couple of add-ons from other parts of the country and some locomotives and rolling stock from Never-Never Land?
The twig was bent early - on my first Christmas. I teethed on a Lionel lithographed tin box car.
I went to HO early - HO kits were less expensive than Lionel, and my budget was limited.
In 1960 my then-girlfriend gave me an inexpensive kit for a brass locomotive of Japanese pattern but no known prototype. That decided me on Japanese prototype modeling. (I married the lady later that year. After 2 kids, 3 grandkids and 3-and-counting great-grandkids, the marriage is still going strong.)
During the same period, I spent a lot of time exploring the coal field in the vicinity of the base I was stationed at, with the idea of reproducing some of it in HOj scale.
In September of 1964 my wife and I, and our two toddlers, visited the Upper Kiso Valley - and fell in love with the area. My wife comes from a similar place (up-country Shikoku) so she was right at home among people who make their livings in the forest. Our kids were spoiled rotten - without picking up the spoiled rotten attitude. I had a steam-powered mainline and a narrow gauge log hauler to explore.
Ever since then, it has been my intention to combine those influences. Now I'm finally building the layout intended to let me do that. I'm a happy camper.
Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
NP2626. I think that somehow we both "jumped the gun".
Audio Bob. A belated to the forum.
John Busby. Gidday John, the Triang factory was in Panmure, Auckland. I wonder if the steam loco that you're referring to was the "Hiawatha " 4-6-2 pictured in this catalogue here.....
http://www.tri-ang.co.uk/OONew/NZcatC.htm
in 1966 I was eight and received, if I did my chores, a shilling a week, nine pence of that which was to be banked. I know that Triang was supposed to be the cheap alternative , but with the cheapest set at six and a half pounds I never really had a chance. . Here's a link to the Australia, New Zealand section on that site...........
..http://www.tri-ang.co.uk/OONew/indAUST.htm
Gentlemen. The only conclusion I can make so far is that we seem to be a pretty diverse bunch of happy modelers. I ask myself, who would what to be a manufacturer of model railroad to try to cater to the likes of us??
Thanks and Cheers, the Bear.
Hi JaBear
Triang was the cheap alternative, No Hornby Dublo for me till only 4 or 5 years ago
and one two rail loco is all I can afford of that it runs and gets sneaked on to the layout when no ones looking.
I have 3X Hiawatha all bought cheap second hand quite a few years ago no mad collectors prices then and I got them repaired wasn't expensive just a clean and new brushes. Now the collectors would kill me for having the cheek to get them working and using them.
Not sure what I am going to do about the one that needs new wheels.
Now I know where the red Triang double ended diesel is from no idea how I ended up with one of those haven't been any where near NZ
It was the real locomotive I was referring to I believe at least one is preserved in NZ. I believe it is an express passenger engine and has box pock drive wheels.
A whole shilling you Lucky lucky B&&&&&&d I was 5 at the time and I only got 6d
Why I model the Canadian Pacific with a dash of the D&H??
First, I grew up in Agincourt, ON just south of the CPR Agincourt Yard. Watching the parade of trains in the 70's with the multi liveries was amazing.
Second, when the CPR bought the D&H, I read up on & fell in love with the D&H Story & especially the PA's.
So now I combine the 2 & have my PA's running with my AC4400's
Gordon
Brought to you by the letters C.P.R. as well as D&H!
K1a - all the way