What's your opinion of them? Running qualities, accuracy and detail?
So far I only have Bachmann Spectrum and Walthers. So I don't know how they compare.
Don - Specializing in layout DC->DCC conversions
Modeling C&O transition era and steel industries There's Nothing Like Big Steam!
Don,
The models are 'shortened' versions of C&NW passenger cars for the most part(72'). The early ones had rather poor truck attachment, but current production uses screws and they have metal wheels. The couplers are 'talgo' type and converting to body mounted coupler is suggested.
The paint jobs on the C&NW ones I have are quite good, and they have changed the names/numbers through the years so it is possible to build a consist with different numbers. I used Palace Car Company interior sets for my '400' coaches, and Rapido 'Easy Peasy' lighting sets. They do not include diaphragms, and I do not remember what brand I used for my 6 car 'Dakota 400'.
These are basic models, no grab irons or separate details.
Jim
Modeling BNSF and Milwaukee Road in SW Wisconsin
I have a set of the Con-Cor passenger cars.
I do not know if Con-Cor has changed the styling of the cars in the last few years, so what I am about to say relates to the "older" passenger cars from a few years back.
My cars are the two-tone gray NYC cars. The colors are accurate and the detail is reasonably good, better than the old Athearn blue box cars but not as good as the newer Walthers cars.
I was anxious to get the Con-Cor cars at the time that I bought them because my old layout had 30" and 32" radius curves, and I was afraid to buy any 85' cars at the time.
That said, the Con-Cor passenger cars are too light, use plastic push pins to mount off-center trucks, use truck mounted couplers, and some have plastic wheels if I recall correctly.
I had nothing but trouble with the cars until I finally had them undergo a major rehab job. I installed metal wheels, body mounted couplers, replaced the plastic push pins with metal screws and added weight.
On my new layout, I have a whole bunch of Walthers and Rapido 85' cars, but I still run the 72' Con-Cor cars and I am happy with them.
Rich
Alton Junction
I have con cor N scale passenger cars, freight, and a caboose. they're decent but I'm planning on switching all of the wheelsets out for better ones.
SP&S modeler, 1960's give or take a decade or two for some equipment.
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Gary DuPrey
N scale model railroader
I have one HO Con cor NYC 85' streamlined vista dome and four HO Amtrak Superliners. I bought these cars quite awhile ago. The 85' vista dome was converted to knuckle couplers with McHenry talgo couplers and received added weight. For the price at the time offered it was OK. The Superliners were converted to knuckle couplers with the Kadee conversion kit. Additional weight and Interiors were added and at the time bought they were OK. I need to convert the truck push pins to screws for better stability and add metal wheels. If I was looking at HO Superliners today I would seriously consider the Walther's cars.
Here is a photo of the Con Cor Cafe Lounge Superliner
John R.
I have 12 short Santa Fe Valley Flyer cars and I now love them. At first they truly test my modeling skills. Some of mine had push pin's that held on the trucks and some had screws that went in to a round weight that stood up right in the car. Darn screws kept backing out and the truck would come off the car while running them!
After reworking them by adding weight, body mounted Kadee Couplers and PK 36 inch wheels they are great!
Far as details, on mine there are none to speak of.
But I am fine with that being half blind anyway!
I was all so paying between $7.00 and $15.00 a car at my LHS. Last time I looked on the Walther's site mine where around $25.00 to $30.00.Don't think I will be buying any more at that prices!
Cuda Ken
I hate Rust
Note ConCor has a couple of new lines out for their coaches.
They have 65' coaches very similar to the Rivarossi coaches. These coaches are in a number of Roadnames, they have lighting and interior features,'
These new coaches come in packs of four cars, a combine, a post office, a coach and a solarium. Very detailed, track very well
http://www.con-cor.com/HO-1920-1950-Heavyweight-Passenger-Cars.html
The detail in these cars is surprisingly good
I have bought a few sets of these Suburban commuter cars.
don7 Note ConCor has a couple of new lines out for their coaches. They have 65' coaches very similar to the Rivarossi coaches. These coaches are in a number of Roadnames, they have lighting and interior features,' These new coaches come in packs of four cars, a combine, a post office, a coach and a solarium. Very detailed, track very well...
These new coaches come in packs of four cars, a combine, a post office, a coach and a solarium. Very detailed, track very well...
Actually, ConCor offers several different lines of passenger cars in HO, although not all are available at all times.
I have several of the 85' cars introduced back in the early '70s. They are basic shells with truck mounted couplers, plastic wheels and cast detail. With a little research and after market parts, they are acceptable and comparable to the IHC - Rivarossi cars available back in the day.
I also have six of the PRR MP54 coaches introduced several years ago. These are accurate models of the locomotive hauled version of the 62' commuter/local service coach, MPB54 Baggage coach combine, and the BM62 RPO Baggage. They run well, and are great cars. They look OK on my layout which is built with 26" and 28" radius curves. ConCor has recently introduced the MU version of these classes. The 65' Branchline cars Don7 referred to in his post, are similar but intended to be generic cars.
They offer 72' lightweights and full length superliners, but I have no experience with them.
they don't make the BN coaches for N scale anymore but the ones that are around are expensive.
I had a quite of few Con-cor passenger cars in N scale. I did sold a lot of them a few years ago and still have few left remaining. I was never impressed with them. Been buying a lot of Kato passenger sets and very happy with them. It's just a personal choice and opinion for me.
Ken "Kencutus the Borg" Plaza
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BNSF733 I had a quite of few Con-cor passenger cars in N scale. I did sold a lot of them a few years ago and still have few left remaining. I was never impressed with them. Been buying a lot of Kato passenger sets and very happy with them. It's just a personal choice and opinion for me.
Burlington Northern #24 BNSF733 I had a quite of few Con-cor passenger cars in N scale. I did sold a lot of them a few years ago and still have few left remaining. I was never impressed with them. Been buying a lot of Kato passenger sets and very happy with them. It's just a personal choice and opinion for me. I'd like to get my hands on the Kato BN passenger cars I have the morning daylight set, amazing runners. but My con cors are my pride and joy.
Al you really need to do is write to KatoUSA and ask them. I had a guy over at nscale.org who has been waiting for NYC Century Limited trainset.. Best thing to do is write to them. The more request they get, they might make them. You would not know until you ask.
BNSF733 Burlington Northern #24 BNSF733 I had a quite of few Con-cor passenger cars in N scale. I did sold a lot of them a few years ago and still have few left remaining. I was never impressed with them. Been buying a lot of Kato passenger sets and very happy with them. It's just a personal choice and opinion for me. I'd like to get my hands on the Kato BN passenger cars I have the morning daylight set, amazing runners. but My con cors are my pride and joy. Al you really need to do is write to KatoUSA and ask them. I had a guy over at nscale.org who has been waiting for NYC Century Limited trainset.. Best thing to do is write to them. The more request they get, they might make them. You would not know until you ask.
I bought a complete set of their Ho Scale Branchline-commuter-Suburban cars {65 scale feet?}.
They were designed to run on 18"R curves, which they do.
I got the B&O set as I have B&O locos, and my F-series loco and the ConCor cars look great together. The colors fairly well match.
http://www.con-cor.com/HO-1920-1950-Heavyweight-Passenger-Cars.html should take you there,It is a bit generic now that they have been sold this line for awhile but let it load the first page, then it will roll over to the page it needs to be on.
IF YOU ORDER from CONCOR, THEY highly recommend you place orders via PHONE, NOT the internet, as, unless they have changed it yet, their site is NOT a secure page to put your CC # into!!!
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
The Con-Cor 65' heavyweight cars are a God send to those who have acquired either the old Rivarossi or the new Rivarossi 60' cars.
The Rivarossi cars never came with a proper end car, the Con-Cor Solarium fits perfectly. I have a number of the Rivarossi sets and the new Con-Cor cars match the paint very well. I have flushed out a few of the Rivarossi sets with extra coaches and the Solarium coach.
These cars are finished very well, interior finish, lighting, excellent detail and fairly priced. I only have a few sets of full sized cars. I have the new Rapido Canadian which comes with 10 of the Rapdio coaches which in their own right have set a new standard , excellent detail, interior finish and lighting.
I have yet to receive a set of the new Broadway Limited California Zephyr cars I ordered, as I have a number of Walthers F units with the correct road names, Western Pacific, Rio Grande and the CB@Q. to pull these cars. I certainly will be comparing them to the new Rapido coaches.
galaxy I bought a complete set of their Ho Scale Branchline-commuter-Suburban cars {65 scale feet?}. They were designed to run on 18"R curves, which they do. I got the B&O set as I have B&O locos, and my F-series loco and the ConCor cars look great together. The colors fairly well match. http://www.con-cor.com/HO-1920-1950-Heavyweight-Passenger-Cars.html should take you there,It is a bit generic now that they have been sold this line for awhile but let it load the first page, then it will roll over to the page it needs to be on. IF YOU ORDER from CONCOR, THEY highly recommend you place orders via PHONE, NOT the internet, as, unless they have changed it yet, their site is NOT a secure page to put your CC # into!!!
I bought a couple to augment my Canadian National 54 livery consist, and the first thing I noticed was the scale or size discrepancy between the Con-Cors & the Rapido cars, the Con-Cors being much bigger. I'm using an IHC 8-4-8 Bullet Nosed Betty as motive power, & while the Rapido cars complement it perfectly, the Con-Cors do not match it in size, either. They're dependable runners, though, and roll smoothly through my 28-inch curves.
I have both the Rapido CN 1954 cars as well as the Con-Cor CN 1954 versions.
I do not mix the two due to their length. I run a Bullet nosed Betty 4-8-2 and alternate with the U4 semi streamlined 4-8-4 with the Rapido cars. This being my 1st class passenger consists, the Con-Cor cars I use as my secondary regional passenger train and use a Uf 4-8-4 which is painted in the same colours as the Con-Cor coaches in the 1954 livery.
I wish that Rapido would release a proper tail end car in there Transcontinental line, perhaps now that the Canadian is out they might use that observation car and alter it slightly for CN use.
Burlington Northern #24 galaxy IF YOU ORDER from CONCOR, THEY highly recommend you place orders via PHONE, NOT the internet, as, unless they have changed it yet, their site is NOT a secure page to put your CC # into!!! hmmm that's odd they didn't say that last time I was there. Ok well the running between my con cor cars is strange, My Con Cor 85' smoothside passenger cars are able to run on my layout and make the weird curve, but my Amtrak superliners are frustrating me 2 of my coaches work barely they still derail, oh well payday's friday so I suppose I'll buy some phase 1 cars.
galaxy IF YOU ORDER from CONCOR, THEY highly recommend you place orders via PHONE, NOT the internet, as, unless they have changed it yet, their site is NOT a secure page to put your CC # into!!!
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It used to warn they were not a secure site.
ok thanks.
it's a good thing I'm not an amex customer.
Thanks for the input guys.
I was considering some C&O George Washington cars for my Pacfic class, but given the cost (close to Walthers, or even used brass cost) and details and running qualities, I decided to pass.
I repainted a Walthers Skytop for my wet noodle consist as an end car, & am planning to do the same for my 54 CN consist. (yes, I know, but they existed at the time, so it coulda happened...and did, in my world...)