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Anyone ever model a fireless steam locomotive?

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Posted by Boise Nampa & Owyhee on Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:29 AM

These locomotives were used largely by industries which had some need for steam for the regular operation of the business.  Thus it was easy to use locos that relied on that steam. They were use in local yard service and never strayed very far from a steam source.

They functioned exactly as any other steam propelled loco except............ they did not boil their own water.  They would charge these locos with what ever steam under pressure that they might have used for other in house functions.

When looking at a fireless cooker you will find a stack and usually at least one dome.  They exhaust was conducted the same as an on board fire boiler would have.  The dome was necessary as they still needed a dry pipe to prevent water from arriving at the pistons.

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:58 AM

This might be better asked on the Prototype Information thread but can someone please explain how a "fireless" steam locomotive works?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:38 AM

rrinker

Certainly shouldn't be too hard to make one, since the 'boiler' is straight and cylindrical, not tapered and there's no firebox to worry about.

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:08 PM

Certainly shouldn't be too hard to make one, since the 'boiler' is straight and cylindrical, not tapered and there's no firebox to worry about.

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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:36 PM

I know that Steamtown has a fireless locomotive from the original Blount collection, an 0-6-0, I think.

I don't know of any company that makes these engines, but it would be really neat.

The Lehigh Valley Railroad, the Route of the Black Diamond Express, John Wilkes and Maple Leaf.

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Posted by Beach Bill on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:10 PM

I don't know of any commercial models of fireless steam locomotives.  This is a little unusual, in that they were found across the country in industrial settings and some of them lasted well past the usual "end of steam".   In the summer of 1969, I rode the New York Central "James Whitcomb Riley" from Cincinnati to Chicago, and just north of the passenger station in Indianapolis was an operational fireless steam (I think 0-4-0) that was used to serve the steam plant there.

While 0-4-0 was likely the most common wheel arrangement for fireless steam, the largest one produced was an 0-8-0 built by Heisler and still on display at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania:

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Posted by Boise Nampa & Owyhee on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:40 PM

Here is a link to a site that has quite a bit about them.

I've built a lot of stuff over the years but never one of these.  They are an odd sort of duck.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireless_locomotive

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Anyone ever model a fireless steam locomotive?
Posted by GP-9_Man11786 on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:00 PM

Has anybody ever modeled a fire steam locomotive? Evidently they were quite common during the steam era in settings where a locomotive with an open fire would have been a hazard. I've never seen one produced commercially but it seems they'd fit in nicely with a steam-era layout.

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