@Motley
That's one mighty locomotive in your picture. I'm doing N scale and my train pulled by my Rock Island 4-8-4 wouldn't look good with an extra tender, but I will love it.
Mr. LMD, Owner, founder
The Central Chicago & Illinois Railroad
@Texas Zepher
The only I seen the UP 844 is in videos, Extreme Trains and Tracks Ahead, and that gave me the idea to give my RI 4-8-4 an auxilary tender as well.
Mr. LMD I'm sorry @tstage I just wanted to make sure the right person who I'm talking to find my response a lot easier.
I'm sorry @tstage
I just wanted to make sure the right person who I'm talking to find my response a lot easier.
It's not a problem, LMD, and no apology needed. If you want you can still use the quote feature but edit out all the superlative comments.
Again, it was just a suggestion...
Tom
https://tstage9.wixsite.com/nyc-modeling
Time...It marches on...without ever turning around to see if anyone is even keeping in step.
@tstage
Understandable and I will do that in the future.
It would be rude if I do not post.
I am currently bidding on some passenger cars to make my fleet of passenger trains.
I originally spent a week last Summer planning my dream passenger train fleet if you would call it that.
My dream passenger fleet consist of one distance and one commuter passenger trains named The Illinoisian and the The Central.
The Central is going to be pulled by my RI 4-8-4. The cars will consist of 3-4 coaches, 2 sleepers, 1 baggage, and one diner car.
The Illinoisian is going to be pulled by my 4-6-0. The cars will consist of 4 coaches and 2 business cars for passengers or business partners to have meetings, ect.
There's no schedule yet as I'm just getting set up in a new location; but it will include a partially-enclosed multi-track yard, which I hope will allow me to run all my major consists at various times. It will also provide a good storage for the other lines not running at the moment.
@bigpianoguy
I was thinking of doing the same thing. I'm thinking of having a trainyard inside a large building
riogrande5761 So far I have resisted buying the Walthers foobies, but right now there are too many "correct" pieces of rolling stock I need to collect to spend my limited dollars on to spend it on foobies right now. Hopefully by the time I get around to giving serious consideration to foobie passenger cars, Walthers will have produced a few new ones which actually match!
So far I have resisted buying the Walthers foobies, but right now there are too many "correct" pieces of rolling stock I need to collect to spend my limited dollars on to spend it on foobies right now. Hopefully by the time I get around to giving serious consideration to foobie passenger cars, Walthers will have produced a few new ones which actually match!
I'm kinda/sorta hoping that Walthers might do that, myself (especially the ex-C&O dome observation that Rio Grande turned a mid-train car for their "Royal Gorge.") But everything aside, since my Yuba River Sub itself is a kind of 'fooby' layout (Rio Grande through the SIERRA, LOL?), I can kinda/sorta 'make do' without too much embarrassment.
But it would sure be nice to get some really authentic Rio Grande passenger cars without breaking the bank or wondering if those expensive brass imports will short out on any kind of radius under 40".
Tom View my layout photos! http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/TWhite-014/Rio%20Grande%20Yuba%20River%20Sub One can NEVER have too many Articulateds!
twhite I'm kinda/sorta hoping that Walthers might do that, myself (especially the ex-C&O dome observation that Rio Grande turned a mid-train car for their "Royal Gorge.") But everything aside, since my Yuba River Sub itself is a kind of 'fooby' layout (Rio Grande through the SIERRA, LOL?), I can kinda/sorta 'make do' without too much embarrassment. But it would sure be nice to get some really authentic Rio Grande passenger cars without breaking the bank or wondering if those expensive brass imports will short out on any kind of radius under 40". Tom
The dome-chair car intended for the C&O but purhased x3 by the D&RGW is IMO, the holy grail of all D&RGW passenger cars to acquire - well, and also the Wilson McCarthy. Back in 1985, when Palace Car Company announced P-S Prospector brass passenger cars, I pre-ordered 3 of them - and put a deposit on them. By the time they finally shipped, I had moved away from Houston and apparantly the one car I was shipped was sent back. A couple years later I was in Rochester NY and was able to order the de-skirted PS combine for $120. But I lost out on my pre-orderes of the dome-chair and the Wilson McCarthy Business car. Now-a-days when those show up on fleabay, they usually fetch a price in the $200-300 range or more if they are custom painted.
The problem with the dome-chair cars is that in original configuration they had no rear vestibule for mid-train use I believe - they were modified at Burnham shops IIRC after it was delivered to the D&RGW. It looks like getting accurate D&RGW passenger cars without a complete scratchbuild or spending a fortune is up to companies like Walthers.
At least if you are protolancing, then you can exercise some license. Years I remember reading an MR article about a guy named Lee something, last name escapes me, who did a freelance D&RGW as if it had extended the Craig Branch westward to connect to the Pacific but at the time he used all D&RGW EQ. It was an awesome layout. He has since switched to a full freelance fantasy RR and at that point I lost all interest in what he did.
Rio Grande. The Action Road - Focus 1977-1983
My Galveston layout is not up and running yet, so I can't claim I "am running" anything.
I plan to run the Santa Fe Texas Chief and the Santa Fe #5/6 mail and express (formerly named "The Ranger"), whixh actually ran into Galveston, and I have collected equipment for them.
Texas Chief all streamlined- RPO, baggage, divided (Jim Crow) coach, coach, lounge, diner, 1 or 2 sleepers.
#5/6 - RPO/ baggage, baggage, express box, express reeferse(s), heavyweight coaches, heavyweight sleeper. (All stops accommodation, no dining or lounge service)
My dream railroad would also have included the Santa Fe California Special/Texan which had mixed equipment- some heavyweight, some streamlined. It did not go to Galveston, and I don't have staging for it, but I have collected the cars...
My proto"twist" train- which am halfway considering- is the Texas Mexican Limited which ran from Corpus Christi to Laredo in the late 1980s... time traveled back to the mid 1950s. The Tex Mex Ltd had heavywt ex-PRR coaches, one streamlined coach and sgtreamlined lounge, and used a baywindow caboose to handle baggage!
To backdate it, I would pull it with TexMex F7s- they had one pair in the 1950s, and the 1980s passenger car scheme was based on the 1950s F7 scheme. For baggage-- TexMex had a surplus troop sleeper then used for MOW. So my train would be loosely based on real stuff- that never happened to be all together at the same time. I have the cars. I don't have the decals...
I'm currently working on freelancing (with a slight proto twist) a logging/mining railroad in the 1880s. Mining and logging passenger service will be served with a few Overtons, but for mainline service between a few larger cities, I'm planning to have a combine and baggage car, as well as a few of these:
Pulled by one of these, like so:
I decided to have fun with photo filters. The cars will all be a dark green with very dark gray roofs and trucks. I need to get a good way of doing lots of white lettering, but they will eventually say "Riverside and Great Northern Railway" along the top.
The real R&GN is a tourist 15" gauge line in Wisconsin. I'm going to model as if it was a real railroad.
leighant #5/6 - RPO/ baggage, baggage, express box, express reeferse(s), heavyweight coaches, heavyweight sleeper. (All stops accommodation, no dining or lounge service)
Did the #5 and 6 have actual revenue passengers at any point in it's career? From the pics I have seen they had one coach or combine on the end but I think that was for postal employees. Just curious if you have any additional info.
Check out the Deming Sub by clicking on the pics:
This is just a random question, but do any of you fellow modelers have a passenger car yard (sorry for my grammar and lack of the correct term)? If so, how many cars do you have in the yard?
Don't beg for things, Do it yourself, Or else you won't get anything "-Adrock Thurston-Eureka Seven.
Many major passenger terminals had coach yards nearby, either a common yard for all the railroads using the terminal, or the several railroads had their own yards for their own trains. Passenger trains would be prepared, repaired, and serviced before being hauled over to the terminal.
Large terminals often had a train shed, basically a covered passenger yard with platforms, where passengers could board and depart.
Dan
Rich here on the forum (richhotrain) is currently building a huge coach yard for his already outstanding Dearborn Passenger Station in Chicago. We'll see if we can get him to post some photos.
It's a very impressive passenger layout.
Michael
CEO- Mile-HI-RailroadPrototype: D&RGW Moffat Line 1989
Mr. LMD Here's my question(s) for my fellow modelers. Prototype modelers: Which railroad passenger train(s) are you modeling and how many do you have?
Here's my question(s) for my fellow modelers.
Prototype modelers: Which railroad passenger train(s) are you modeling and how many do you have?
I model the Cincinnati, Lebanon & Northern, a turn-of-the-century short line that ran from Cincinnati to Lebanon, Ohio, in 1906. Most of the CL&N's passenger business (indeed, most of its business, period) was commuter traffic between Cincinnati and its suburbs. Three trains ran into the city in the morning and three out in the evening. The first train into Cincinnati in the morning was the last to leave at night, and vice-versa. Therefore, even though those three trains didn't have official names, the early train was colloquially known as the Worker, the middle one the Clerker, and the late in-early out one the Shirker.
I'm planning to model the commuter trains using Roundhouse 34-foot Overton cars, even though they weren't prototypical for my era, to keep the trains short enough so I can handle the prototypical amount of traffic in my selectively compressed Cincinnati yard (once it's built, that is). I'm using the justification that they're former narrow-gauge cars set on standard trucks after the road was standard-gauged in 1894, and kept in service as a money-saving measure.
The other trains on the CL&N bore pedestrian titles like the Express and the Accommodation Train (passenger local).
--Steven Otte, Model Railroader senior associate editorsotte@kalmbach.com
Steven Otte Mr. LMD: Here's my question(s) for my fellow modelers. Prototype modelers: Which railroad passenger train(s) are you modeling and how many do you have? I model the Cincinnati, Lebanon & Northern, a turn-of-the-century short line that ran from Cincinnati to Lebanon, Ohio, in 1906. Most of the CL&N's passenger business (indeed, most of its business, period) was commuter traffic between Cincinnati and its suburbs. Three trains ran into the city in the morning and three out in the evening. The first train into Cincinnati in the morning was the last to leave at night, and vice-versa. Therefore, even though those three trains didn't have official names, the early train was colloquially known as the Worker, the middle one the Clerker, and the late in-early out one the Shirker. I'm planning to model the commuter trains using Roundhouse 34-foot Overton cars, even though they weren't prototypical for my era, to keep the trains short enough so I can handle the prototypical amount of traffic in my selectively compressed Cincinnati yard (once it's built, that is). I'm using the justification that they're former narrow-gauge cars set on standard trucks after the road was standard-gauged in 1894, and kept in service as a money-saving measure. The other trains on the CL&N bore pedestrian titles like the Express and the Accommodation Train (passenger local).
Mr. LMD: Here's my question(s) for my fellow modelers. Prototype modelers: Which railroad passenger train(s) are you modeling and how many do you have?
I'm using the Overton cars as well since I haven't found a passenger car, other than the bi-levels, that I want to run on my layout.
To freelance and prototypical modelers,
How are all of your passenger cars arrange and which car(s) or destination along your route your favorite?
Hmmm, well right now I add and remove my passenger trains by storing them under the layout.
But when I finish my extension room, I will have a 4 track passenger train station, that will act as storage and staging for the trains.
I have 2 large union stations, one on the main layout (Denver), and other in the ext room (Cheyenne). For destinations.
When I finally construct my layout, I will use 1-2 Pike Diamond Tool & Engineering for my N scale layout as as a building to house my cars leaving me some space to add details around it. I will only have three stations, two of which are cities and one a logging station.
Mr. LMDTo freelance and prototypical modelers, How are all of your passenger cars arrange and which car(s) or destination along your route your favorite?
Texas Zepher Mr. LMD: To freelance and prototypical modelers, How are all of your passenger cars arrange and which car(s) or destination along your route your favorite? The prototype have it easy. One arranges the train like the prototype did. A little research will turn up the consist at given points on the route. Usually the transcons run from staging to staging non-stop. They don't care about the tiny towns that get modeled on most small - medium size model railroads. For example the Super Chief of the Santa Fe has very limited stops and the only car change in route is the RPO (drop off / pick up) in La Junta Colorado. On the other hand the California Limited stopped at any station who had passengers with tickets.
Mr. LMD: To freelance and prototypical modelers, How are all of your passenger cars arrange and which car(s) or destination along your route your favorite?
The prototype have it easy. One arranges the train like the prototype did. A little research will turn up the consist at given points on the route. Usually the transcons run from staging to staging non-stop. They don't care about the tiny towns that get modeled on most small - medium size model railroads. For example the Super Chief of the Santa Fe has very limited stops and the only car change in route is the RPO (drop off / pick up) in La Junta Colorado. On the other hand the California Limited stopped at any station who had passengers with tickets.
my only problem with my passenger service is that i will have to either have a small loop track or a turntable after my steam locomotives arrive at a stub end station.
I model a portion of Santa Fe in 1989-1990 in Oklahoma, including the mainline north/south and the Enid district. Not much passenger activity on that line during that period except for a Amtrak train which usually had a diesel and two passenger cars. It comes out of staging, runs the Ark City sub mainline from Oklahoma City to staging. Just something to run and slow the freight trains down.
Bob
The release of MTH's 1949 Powhatan Arrow set really drew me back into model railroading. So I have the five car set and an extra P3 coach. Pouring over photos of the train in Thomas W. Dixon's book on the train showed that it frequently carried 1-2 heavyweight REA baggage cars so I added two Walthers B60b models painted for N&W to my train. The train also pulled an RPO, and as I like Pennsy RPOs I am, because I want to, eventually adding a Walthers BM70 in Pennsylvania lettering, using the rationale that they leased it, or something like that. I know some trains had RPOs from other railroads so it's believable enough for me. Also, by 1955 the streamlined cars had their skirting removed, but on my train they're staying on! I like them and don't relish the idea of performing that bit of surgery on the cars.
Alvie
On my tiny indoor G scale layout so far I've only run a set very very short passenger train consisting of an HLW Mogul pulling an LGB shorty passenger car, my own Hooterville Cannonball.
Have fun with your trains
In regards to the first post, as a prototype modeler I'm trying to model all the New Haven RR"s passenger trains...just not all at once. So, for example:The Merchants LimitedThe Advanced Merchants LimitedThe Yankee ClipperThe Gilt EdgeThe OwlThe 42nd Street ExpressThe FederalThe BostonianThe New YorkerThe William PennAnd many more. The NH ran hourly named passenger trains between Boston & New York City for most of the day, so I have a lot to choose from.
However, there are certain cars that are missing. Many of the NH's heavyweight passenger cars are not available in any form. The NH's stainless steel fleet is limited to brass and flat coach & combine kits (that aren't very good). Rapido's 10-window coaches have been a blessing, but there are still many more types we NH fans need in order to model the best NH varnish.
The only complete "train" I have is The Comet, a 3-car trainset (one that Con-Cor just came out with...but mine is brass). It ran a commuter schedule between Boston & Providence, and was capable of speeds of over 105mph, doing the 44 miles in 44 minutes with 2 intermediate stops.
Paul A. Cutler III
Well the milk train is composed of the a BM at the front, and then 4 reefers in the middle with the combine bringing up the end as a "caboose"
This isn't changed at all through the run save to drop combine at the station and then do a flagged move to the dairy. there the BM is unloaded and the 4 reefers are exchanged for loaded reefers, the combine is then picked up (no need to turn it) and the return trip is bound. The BM is unloaded and the empty milk cans placed aboard.
The only other passenger route is a pair of back to back doodlebugs and that just goes back and forth.
to all the modelers who posted, how many passenger trains do you have or how many do you make (if you use switchers to make or break trains) a day to run?