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Posted by JeremyB on Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:25 AM

What I am always worried about this time of year is pneumonia. I have had it three times since 2003. The first time was the worst though and I still remember it to this day because the girlfriend and I were moving at the time I had a came down with a 104f fever on a friday which lasted until Monday and when I finally went to my doctor he told me that I should have been in the Hospital and for lack of better terms that not going was "stupid" he didnt say that but I could get that vibe from him,lol. Oh well I was 18 and dumb and didnt want to be in a hospital. My mom was PO'd when the girlfriend told her how high the fever really was.

He put me on some heavy medication and actually thought about admitting me to the hospital but the fever had dropped a bit by then and he just let me go home, but told me that if it ever gets that high again I better find myself in the hospital.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:49 AM

LION, RN says that the Flu Shot is a crap shoot. They design and produce the flu shots in March to May and a more or less guessing what strains they will have to protect against in the fall. It is an educated guess, since they know where it is coming from, but they cannot always get it just right. Each year the flu shot protects against three or for strains that are likely to be about. This is why you need a new shot each year: they are expecting different strains. And even if they guess the strain correctly they might not use the correct key for the lock, and the vaccine will not bind to the virus correctly.

That said, you are better off with the shot than without it.

Most of what "people" call the "Flu" is no such thing at all. They tend to call any cold bigger than a sniffle the "Flu." It is not, although a full week of weakness, aches and pains is a darn good indicator. CDC only counts those cases confirmed by a physician or clinic, the first instances must be confirmed by lab tests, but once it is in the neighborhood, the practitioner can diagnose Influenza by the common symptoms and contacts that they have seen without the lab tests. They will probably do the tests anyway, because that earns them more money.

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Posted by JeremyB on Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:39 AM

I think your sister is right V8 you still can get the flu even after the shot but I think you just dont get as bad of one. At least that's what I have always herd, but hey Im no doctor Stick out tongue. Hope you guys feel better soon. Cold and flu season sucks.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:58 AM

Good morning. It's 38° and sunny. The high will be 66° and it will be mostly sunny. There's a 40% chance of rain tonight.

Speaking of rain, the most recent rains dropped a little over three inches on us.

Today I'm going to do some work on the F3B in my F3A-F3B-F7B powered consist. It has an Athearn super power frame but no super weight. If everything goes right it'll have the heavy die-cast metal Varney body on it by tonight. That will make the A unit of the consist the lightest of the three. The F3A and F3B both have Athearn frams. The F7B has a heavy Proto 1000 frame. If I don't get too busy with it and there are no interruptions I may be able to squeeze in some time to work on the junkyards. The metal F3B body has a dark primer on it already.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:12 AM

Italian Roast coffee in a  AT&SF  mug, please.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:06 AM

Morning..

I got the flu ...so if'n you have a low immune system thing going don't come anywhere near me...where did I put my face mask with the HEPA filter now...

We woke up to a wonderful -20C here this morning..with the windchill at -29C...just a jotous time to be had here in IceBerg/ville...

Lee:  If some of the brass pieces are NIB you might want to consider separating those ones out of the others...you never know you might get good responses on those ones...

BTW...I found a brass barn set recently in HO scale that was in a Goodwill here...does anyone know of a manufacturer that made farm or other building kits out of brass?  

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Posted by gear-jammer on Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:48 AM

Good morning, Chloe.  I will have my coffee in a NP mug, please.  We woke up to 4 inches of snow this morning.  It appears to have come out of the SW, so it will probably by gone by noon.

Later,  Sue

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Posted by TMarsh on Sunday, January 15, 2012 7:07 AM

Good Morning!! Coffee and the Sunday Breakfast Buffet please. Thanks.

Sunny, with a high near 34.

Terry- That’s horrible news about the lady and her son. She will have a very tough way to go emotionally I‘m sure. My prayers are definitely with her.

Dennis- Glad you’re feeling better. A two day Churcher eh? I remember as a little kid Going to the Nebo Baptist Church on Sunday morning of course, then evening and then again Wednesday nights. Don’t remember why on Wednesday nights though. Been a long time ago. As a Methodist I’m used to talking about how religious and faithful I am as long as I’m only giving an hour of time a week and then complaining if the Preacher goes 5 minutes over on SundayLaugh. Had this one old codger (rest his soul), I kid you not, would be there ever Sunday, talk about the Lord’s work, give freely because “it’s the Lord’s work”, but when the clock struck 10 am….he would get up and walk out. Yup, no foolin. Just get up and walk out as if the movie ended. Don’t think he ever did in the middle of the final prayer if that’s when it came. But Church was for an hour. And when the hour was up..., he had things to do.

Ray- Sorry, forgot it was only a model. Don’t attach the builts to the ground? Hm. They sure look like they are set in. We’ll have to revisit this subject once I get back into Toddland (of which I am king)

Curt- I am always impressed at how quickly you’re layout has come so far. Seems like just a month ago you laid the first piece of track. I know you had most all the stuff already before you started, but it’s still’s pretty quick. You’re doing a great job too.

Aussie Jim- Do you Australians really drink Fosters or is that just what you save for the tourists to drink and then laugh about it?

Floor Wars Williamsville: Phase….I lost track- Despite the setback, yesterday I finished the floors in the rooms so farYes. Yup. Nothing left to do. No trim piece to finish, no doorway to complete, no little odds or ends left undone. Well, except for the transition into my office. THAT will depend on what flooring material I (yes, I said “I”) choose. Maaaaybe I’ll break from tradition and today make a transition for now anyway just to make it look nice. Besides I have a car to fix and two other rooms to do before I get to this one. May take a while and it will at least not look, well, undone. ConfusedNever know.

Sat and talked with Brenda a lot yesterday. She claims to see my points and understands. Again.  A lot to think about still, but, I highly doubt I’m going anywhere but back down to the train room. Maybe the doghouse from time to time. I do love her and this is the “or worse” they warned me about I guess. Nah, could always be worse. Besides, I doubt if she’d let me have the dog. I do love that dog. She even got adventurous and made me a casserole. Some kind of a Greek casserole. Same unusual post traumatic catering? I don’t think so, this thing was awful so she obviously didn’t dig for something she knew I’d like. Who would put cinnamon in a meat dish with tomatoes and garlic?Dead

Welp, wanna cruise the “bay” for a bit to see what I can’t live without, then do some more odds and ends around here until Brenda goes to and comes back from her taking care of her Mother, who is getting along fabulously I must say, so we can go out for our weekly visit to the Chinese Booffay and the to the Walmart for some geroceries. Probably stop off at Menard’s to pick her tile boarder for the kitchen since I’ll be around to do that. Laugh

Ya’ll have a Great Day!!!

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Posted by LSWrr on Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:54 AM

Good Morning,

We only got a “decent” amount of snow over the last 48 hours nothing near the 12”+ the weather guessers predicted.

The brass caterpillar tender kit will go to the bay for reassignment as well as a few brass steam engines and caboose units.  Not sure if I should sell them in a LOT or individually.   Most of them have never been out of the box.

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Posted by JeremyB on Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:19 AM

Morning guys

Still very cold out there this morning -16c. I dont think I feel like going to the local train show this year. Its just not like it used to be as they have changed locations and its kind of cramped as the show is in 3 rooms which are connected by small corridors so its just creates a cramped environment. Plus I have alot of work to do on my layout and I know if I go I will make alot of impulse purchases,lol

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Good Morning...
Posted by wetidlerjr on Sunday, January 15, 2012 4:03 AM

 

Good Morning ! from Tipton IN.

 

 

Cool

 

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Posted by galaxy on Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:53 AM

GOOD MORNING!!!

Today is Sunday, January 15th, 2012!!!

{almost half way through January already, can you believe it?}

Geeked

 

-G .

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Posted by james saunders on Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:33 PM

Sunday arvo here, saturday night for most of you, so good evening!

 

Just sitting here with a few cold beverages enjoying the 3rd test match vs India in the cricket.

Just a quick stop.

 

See you all tomorrow.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:23 PM

Time for me to call it a night. I did some work on the two dummy locos that came in today. One is a Varney F3B and it's all metal. It weighs in at one pound, and it's a dummy! It would take a strong loco to pull it and a train. I have got to fit that die cast metal body to an Athearn F7 powered chassis. That would make for some immense pulling power in a consist. The other F3B is very nearly identical in appearance except for color and the fact it's all plastic. I had to put some lead in it to keep the wheels from climbing the rails. It's been stripped and is an almost embarrassing shade of pink. Put a *** cancer awareness logo on it and it would almost look like it belonged there. It looks to be an early 60's model. I've seen the same body used by Varney, Athearn and a couple of others. The all metal one looks to be a 50's model. I bet I could get that body on the F3B powered chassis in my F3A-F3B-F7B all power consist.

See y'all tomorrow.

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Posted by saronaterry on Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:58 PM

Sorry 'bout that ,Jeff! Figured two .44 stamps would have been plenty. Glad it worked for you!

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:38 PM

Ray .... What? You had company and you were operating the layout! The quickest way for gremlins to attack teh layout and the trains is to operate the layout when visitors are present. Whistling

Chris ... I've heard many stories from my friend running trains on the IC through Iowa. He also spent time in Paducah. 

Curt ... I like the trestle. 

 

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:03 PM

Janie, can I get a refill on the decaf please?  Thank you Ma'am.

Company has been here, we talked trains most all afternoon...  The girls were bored out of their minds I think, but the boyfriend and I had a lot of fun.  Decided to run some trains....  You can guess what happened I'm sure.  My Bachmann 4-8-2 pulling the Lake Shores Limited I fired up went a half inch and quit!  Light would turn on and off and that was it.  Played with it for a bit, and then even the light wouldn't respond.  Found one of the buttons was stuck on the DT-400 and the throttle was doing some strange things.  Shut down the entire system, pulled the battery out of the radio throttle we were using put everything back together and still loco was very dead.  Left it and called up the 4-4-0 # 499 on the head of the Milk Run Train and it pulled out of the yard and ran perfectly.  Let Roger have the throttle and he ran it around the section out of Hopewell yard and back into Hopewell Yard....  Of course the LSL train was blocking the main line because I couldn't get it back in operation.  I finally pulled the 4-8-2 off the layout (using the 0-5-0 Big Hook) and brought out a little Connie (2-8-0) freight engine which I hoped would have enough tractive effort to haul the large passenger train up the 2% grades.  It ran around through the yard onto the yard lead, backed down the main line and coupled onto the train with no problems whatsoever!  I put the throttle back ove into forward, and ........ dead!  Finally hooked on the 0-5-0 at the lead and pulled the whole consist about 6 inches forward and the train took off and ran.....?????  Took off up the 2% grade pulling the consist without any problem.  Gave the throttle to my SIL Julie.  She took her up to the top of Bare Mountain and she proceeded over a curved turnout and derailed!!!  I re-railed it and she proceeded over the turnout again....Derailed again.  couldn't find any reason for it to derail??? 

We decided to go out to dinner after that.  Roger and I talked about trains of course...  Actually the four of us had a good time and it was fun afternoon even with the problems o the layout.  Roger is a Catholic Deacon and currently is a CPA at the county nursing facility.  Seems like a great guy!

Oh, any of you wanting more info about color temperature check here: http://www.3drender.com/glossary/colortemp.htm

Checked out most of the posts I missed today before I posted this one....  Now I'm going to check out a few other threads.

Later!

73

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:53 PM

saronaterry

Jeff, did the yellow box show up with the end ladder yet?

Yes it did. I sent you a PM about it.

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Posted by JeremyB on Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:43 PM

wow, thanks for all that info howmus and thanks for the link also.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:36 PM

Chamomile tea, please.

***Curt, nice trestle!Yes Hope the shot works for Raine. A zoo vet has to be a jack of all trades, so sounds like you found a winner.

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:35 PM

Evenin' folks!

Janie just a decaf please.  I'll go sit in the back booth by the stove and keep warm.

Jeremy Lion gave some good advise, but I will expand a bit if I may.  Kelvin is used to express the color of light and Lion is correct Full daylight is 5000k or a bit higher.  I am using 5000k lighting with CFLs on my layout.  The standard color you see most often (shop light, and most CFLs ) are 2700k, and are early morning and very much in the yellow spectrum.  Full daylight should be 5000k or higher and is considered noontime.  But just as important for the way the layout will look is the quality of the entire spectrum of light.  Sunlight has all spectrums of light and is considered a "Black Body Resonator" which means it has all pretty much evenly over the entire spectrum of light and beyond (infrared, and ultraviolet etc.)  The old tungsten filament bulbs were considered the closest we could come to being a Black Body Resonator except they were on the yellow side and usually are rated at 3000k IIRC. 

So as well as looking for 5000k or higher, also look for the CRI (color rendering index) for florescent lighting.  Florescents are not Black Body Resonators and do not contain all the wavelengths of light.  The best ones can produce very close color rendering and are "Full Spectrum".  However many "Full Spectrum" lights aren't!  There is little standards for it so most any company can claim to make and sell "full spectrum".  Look for a published CRI of at least 85 or higher.  The index is rated by how closely a color matches what it would look like in sunlight to what it looks like under artificial lighting.  The ones I use have a CRI of at least 90.  Shop lights are about 60....

You can find them at the company (best bulbs I have ever used). http://www.bluemaxlighting.com/full_spectrum_fluorescent_bulbs_38_ctg.htm

Here is the layout under 2700k CRI 80 or lower:

Same shot with 5000k CFLs and a CRI of 91 (using the same automatic setting on the camera, and using color correction in Photoshop on both):

Hope this is helpful.

Later!

73

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Posted by saronaterry on Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:13 PM

Well, you guys nailed it. Took all 23 engines off the layout and test reprogramed 1 of them, that was it. All 23 are now back in service.

I don't do my own installs or address programs because I don't have CV readback on the Empire Builder.Lucky for me I have a great buddy that loves to do that stuff. So, the whole layout ends up being a program track, ESPECIALLY when some DOPE(me) hits the PROG button while playing trains!! At least I think that's what I did. The utility throttles have a program button and I figure that got hit when I dispatched the engine. I prefer them over the DT400.

  Thanks for the help! Lesson learned.

Jeff, did the yellow box show up with the end ladder yet?

Be back later!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:08 PM

Good work on the coal trestle Curt.

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Posted by Curt Webb on Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:02 PM

Evening All,

Worked on the coal trestle for about 4 hours and I have received the scenic items in the mail today so hopefully next week it will be done.

Took Raine to the new vet today and he is leaning toward something like a bulging disco. He got a steroid shot and we have to watch to see if there is any improvement and go from there but he may need surgery to get better but that is down the road. I like the new vet and he has been a zoo vet so he is comfortable around exotics.

Garry- WOW. That is a large layout.

Rob- I sure hope your horse feels better real soon.

Lion- You do great work. Those cars look like they are zipping by just like a real subway.

 

 

 

 

Healing thoughts to everyone and our animals in need. 

 

 

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:56 PM

"One more thing: that pic of the Creamsicle loco, I wanted a model one of those so bad as a kid and ended up with a GM blue & white instead, which I learned to enjoy.Laugh"

ROB, our neighborhood Hy-Vee Food Store had vanilla ice cream and orange sherbet together in a carton. My poor mom had no idea what I meant when I'd ask her to please get "the Illinois Central ice cream." Huh? 

The "Creamsicle" locomotives slowly turned red and then later in life...we had "DEATHSTARS" on the local rails (after the "new" IC bought back what they had sold-off in the late 1980s, and before CN showed up).

The LION: Nice shots! Is THAT what the trespasser sees before he steps on the third rail or gets ran over?

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Posted by Zandoz on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:51 PM

Hello folks.   Nothing but ice water for me, please.

Upper 20s and snow flurries for us right now.  Some kind of stomach bug has me even more out of it than usual....ugggg.

Nothing much going on here.  Model railroading still on hold pending post move unpacking, though we're getting closer. 

 I made the mistake of getting on ebay earlier as a means of boredom abatement.  Of course I had to run across #2 on my bucket list car want list...at a reasonable price on a no reserve auction.  Of course my health and living arrangement (no place to put it) rule out doing anything about it.  Oh well.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:51 PM

Yes, interior lights.

LION has been working on perfecting as light system that will keep the lights on while the train is stopped. Sure DCC can do that, but LIONS cannot do DCC.

Him puts a full wave rectifier in the car to assure that the correct polarity is delivered to the lighting circuit. This is followed by a power regulator to limit the circuit to 5 Volts. Next are the super caps (0.33 Farad capacitors)  and then 4 LEDs in series protected by a 510 Ω resistor.

Here there be more pictures of my trains.

 

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Posted by JeremyB on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:44 PM

Yeah those are cool looking shots you got, Is that interior lighting in those cars?

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:38 PM

BroadwayLion

The LION has some new photos.

How do thses look?

http://broadwaylion.com/LION/mr120114c.jpg

http://broadwaylion.com/LION/mr120114j.jpg

 

Meanwhile, I hear our kitchen is serving leftovers, so I think I'll stay here for some nice rare Wildebeest!

ROAR

 

Good looking pix here...working out rather nicelyBig Smile

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Posted by JeremyB on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:36 PM

Cheers for the info guys. I kind of worded it wrong I knew that I use T8 bulbs what I meant to say was I didnt know exactly what "color" bulb I was using,lol

I will have a look at that Broadway thanks for clearing that up Yes

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