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True Line CNR U2g 4-8-4
Posted by don7 on Monday, November 28, 2011 5:47 PM

Breaking in some of my CN Northerns

 

Double Heading a passenger train on an incline

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, November 28, 2011 6:03 PM

Awesome pair of Northerns.

Don, stop posting these photos.  You are forcing me to salivate over my newly perceived need to have more 4-8-4's on my layout.   Laugh

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Posted by don7 on Monday, November 28, 2011 6:30 PM

richhotrain

Awesome pair of Northerns.

Don, stop posting these photos.  You are forcing me to salivate over my newly perceived need to have more 4-8-4's on my layout.   Laugh

Rich

I am very glad that the news of the fire-sale on these engines was posted on this board. Otherwise I would not have obtained any.

These are really great engines, but are they ever pickey on trackwork. It took me hours of adjusting my track before these engines ran trouble free with no derailments.

The quality of the sound is better than my BLI's.

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Posted by tatans on Monday, November 28, 2011 7:20 PM

SOME ? SOME ? of your Northerns?  and all us other poor schlubs are still wishing for one. And  OMG is that really a CAT waiting to knock that locomotive on the floor? please tell me this has been photo-shopped,  no one would really allow an animal anywhere near a layout would they? This is a joke photo isn't it?

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Posted by CP guy in TX on Monday, November 28, 2011 8:00 PM

All steamers look better with a beaver shield on them, of course, but if you HAVE to model the Dark Side, those will do very nicely.

Nice units!

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Posted by don7 on Monday, November 28, 2011 8:20 PM

tatans

SOME ? SOME ? of your Northerns?  and all us other poor schlubs are still wishing for one. And  OMG is that really a CAT waiting to knock that locomotive on the floor? please tell me this has been photo-shopped,  no one would really allow an animal anywhere near a layout would they? This is a joke photo isn't it?

I wondered if anyone would comment on the cat. Yes the cat is wating to pouce on the engines as they round the bend. I evicted the cat shortly after the picture. Funny thing is the cats do not go any where near the layout unless I am there running something. There is a door so keeping them out is not a problem.

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Posted by selector on Monday, November 28, 2011 8:32 PM

I have a 'thing' about the CNR because it was bailed out by the Canadian government of the day (Okay, my politics are showing), but I must say any railroad/'railway that used the Northern type 4-8-4 was a good one, and the CN series were pretty darned good.....and pretty, especially the streamlined CNR variety.  They were nice looking,.  To have two of any one locomotive is a bit out of my experience at my stage of the hobby development, but I like the idea. Smile

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Posted by don7 on Monday, November 28, 2011 9:05 PM

As I mentioned there was a fire sale of these True Line locomotives. Otherwise I would not have bought them.

 It was my intention to use them to double head a passenger train through a 2 1/2 % grade.

I am not sure when I doubled up, but I have two or three of most of my locomoitves. That way I can double head when I want to. It also gives the appearance, especially at the roundhouse when most of the locomotives are there of a family feeling if you follow what I mean.

Alas, my CPR T1a 2-10-4 will have to rely on a CPR 2-8-0 to assist it, should the need arise. Not sure I could even convince myself of the cost to buy another T1a.

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Posted by rogertra on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:21 AM

selector

I have a 'thing' about the CNR because it was bailed out by the Canadian government of the day (Okay, my politics are showing), but I must say any railroad/'railway that used the Northern type 4-8-4 was a good one, and the CN series were pretty darned good.....and pretty, especially the streamlined CNR variety.  They were nice looking,.  To have two of any one locomotive is a bit out of my experience at my stage of the hobby development, but I like the idea. Smile

Crandell

At a total of 130, not counting its American subsidiaries, I believe the CNR owned more 4-8-4s than any other railway/railroad in North America.

Cheers

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Posted by rogertra on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:21 AM

selector

I have a 'thing' about the CNR because it was bailed out by the Canadian government of the day (Okay, my politics are showing), but I must say any railroad/'railway that used the Northern type 4-8-4 was a good one, and the CN series were pretty darned good.....and pretty, especially the streamlined CNR variety.  They were nice looking,.  To have two of any one locomotive is a bit out of my experience at my stage of the hobby development, but I like the idea. Smile

Crandell

At a total of 130, not counting its American subsidiaries, I believe the CNR owned more 4-8-4s than any other railway/railroad in North America.

Cheers

Roger T.

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:05 AM

Don,

Be sure to check out Classic Trains, Special Edition No. 10, Fantastic 4-8-4 Locomotives.

Lots of coverage and lots of photos, including the CN and its 4-8-4's.

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Posted by Isambard on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:12 AM

CP in TX - Speaking of steam with a beaver shield underneath the cab, your profile photo looks like a 2800 series Hudson, but I can't blow it up. Any chance of you giving us a larger version?

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:38 PM

rogertra

 

At a total of 130, not counting its American subsidiaries, I believe the CNR owned more 4-8-4s than any other railway/railroad in North America.

 

You're correct about the CNR owning the most 4-8-4s of any North American railroad, Roger, but the totals are 165 for the CNR and another 31 for the GTW.  Many of the latter ones were transferred to the CNR towards the end of steam.

This one, shown on my layout, belongs to a friend:

 

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Posted by CP guy in TX on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:34 PM

I can do better than that. It's an H1b Hudson. I have a couple videos on YouTube with this loco. I'm not sure how to put photos on these posts, but I can try.

The videos are under ErnieL40 on YouTube. Thanks

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Posted by tatans on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:25 PM

If you like the CNR Northern, take a look at CPR's Northern, (they only had 2 and they are still existing) or as it was referred to by everyone as a 3100, never ever heard anyone associated with the railway call a steam locomotive by it's name, it was always by number and never referred to as a "Northern"-- no one would have any idea what you were talking about, seems it's a model term.

But I admit even the CNR  "6200's" are a magnificent steam locomotive, probably the epitome of all steam locomotives.

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Posted by CP guy in TX on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:33 PM

I agree. My grandfather fired and hogged on the CP well into the early diesel years, and a Hudson was always a "2800", a Northern was a "3100", but oddly enough, a Pacific was always a Pacific, and a 10 wheeler was always a 10 wheeler....

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Posted by Isambard on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:55 PM

Great looking loco and sounds great too. Who is the model maker?

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Posted by don7 on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:13 PM

I took the engines over to one of the local model railroaders to try to get some good video pictures on a finished layout. Mine is at the "Just layed the track and am working to get all of the kinks out".

Anyway, we could not get the video camera to work, it is stuck on stills only.

We had the engines running on the layout which is switchable between DC and DCC. We operated the trains under DC and was I ever surprised. My main layout is DCC and I had never tried these engines under DC power. I am very impressed with the programing. The train automatically signals when going forward, when slowing down and also when backing up.

Rumour has it that True Line Trains is working on another steamer. Will have to check it out.

Gee, these engines make by BLI's and Spectrum's with sound seem like second rate in comparision.

I quite like my BLI's and Spectrums, but in comparison to the U2g they pale.

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Posted by don7 on Thursday, December 1, 2011 5:42 PM

I bought five of the CN U2g's. I think they are the finest engines I have in regards to the detail and they handle extremely well. The sound, which I can take or leave is excellent. Beats the BLI and Spectrum engines.

Know that all the bugs have been worked out which related to my track laying skills. The engines, themselves had no flaws that I ran across..

However, I just can not justify another one. Or can I?

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, December 1, 2011 5:53 PM

don7

I bought five of the CN U2g's. I think they are the finest engines I have in regards to the detail and they handle extremely well. The sound, which I can take or leave is excellent. Beats the BLI and Spectrum engines.

Know that all the bugs have been worked out which related to my track laying skills. The engines, themselves had no flaws that I ran across..

However, I just can not justify another one. Or can I?

 

Don,

When I read that you had bought 5 of the CN U2g's, I was shocked and stunned.  One, sure.  Maybe two.  OK, splurge with three.  I could even see going four.  But five??? 

Not even a round number.

I immediately thought, why not six?

So, I ask you.  Why not six?

Why not one more?

It's not a question of justifying another one.  The Law of Large Numbers requires it.

DO IT !

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Posted by don7 on Thursday, December 1, 2011 7:21 PM

I had not intended to buy that many. It is just how circumstances turned out.

When I was purchasing these engines they seemed to be in short supply. I had two of my orders cancelled as the two hobby shops were not able to obtain the engines. I went else where and ended up buying three of the engines.

Much later, both of the hobby shops that had cancelled my order contacted me that they now had the engines and wanted me to pay for them. In both cases I was offered additional discounts on the engines that I could not refuse.

Best thing is none of these have the same cab numbers.

I do have to wonder thought just how many of these engines were in fact made.

I just received my RMC for Nov. (they always arrive late) and there is a full page ad. Go figure.

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, December 1, 2011 7:32 PM

don7

Best thing is none of these have the same cab numbers.

I do have to wonder thought just how many of these engines were in fact made.

Don,

I wondered that myself about possible duplicate cab numbers.

I also wonder how many different cab numbers there are.  Five seems like quite a few.  Could there be six or more?

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, December 1, 2011 7:37 PM

According to their web site, there are 10 different road numbers.

Oh boy!

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Posted by don7 on Friday, December 2, 2011 5:50 PM
SKU Road Name Road # Deflectors? Scheme Era
TLT303000  CNR  6200  No  Round Emblem  c1956, 1958 
TLT303001  CN  6205  No  Square Level Emblem  c 1956 
TLT303002  CN  6213  Yes  Tilted Square Emblem  Present 
TLT303003  CN  6218  Yes  Tilted Square Emblem  Present 
TLT303004  CN  6219  No  Round Emblem  early 1956 
TLT303005  CNR  6222  Yes  Tilted Square Emblem  late 1940s 
TLT303006  CNR  6226  No  Round Emblem  c1956-1957 
TLT303007  CN  6230  No  Tilted Square Emblem  c1954 
TLT303008  CN  6234  No  Square Level Emblem  c 1954 
TLT303009  CNR  6234  No  Round Emblem  c 1956-1958 
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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, December 2, 2011 5:51 PM

Don,

Have you bought the other 5 yet?

And, if not, when?

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Posted by CP guy in TX on Friday, December 2, 2011 6:08 PM

don7:

Rumour has it that True Line Trains is working on another steamer. Will have to check it out.

Gee, these engines make by BLI's and Spectrum's with sound seem like second rate in comparision.

I quite like my BLI's and Spectrums, but in comparison to the U2g they pale

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If they really are doing another steamer, I sure hope it's a  D-10, or similar CP 10 wheeler.  I'm really sick of trying to make this ancient United brass junk run well, and even once they've been re-motored and re-drivered, they still don't  stack up well against all that new plastic out there.   

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Posted by tatans on Friday, December 2, 2011 6:10 PM

don7

I had not intended to buy that many. It is just how circumstances turned out.

When I was purchasing these engines they seemed to be in short supply. I had two of my orders cancelled as the two hobby shops were not able to obtain the engines. I went else where and ended up buying three of the engines.

Much later, both of the hobby shops that had cancelled my order contacted me that they now had the engines and wanted me to pay for them. In both cases I was offered additional discounts on the engines that I could not refuse.

Best thing is none of these have the same cab numbers.

I do have to wonder thought just how many of these engines were in fact made.

I just received my RMC for Nov. (they always arrive late) and there is a full page ad. Go figure.

The amount of engines made was on the brochures and advertising also on some sellers sites.

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Posted by tatans on Friday, December 2, 2011 6:19 PM

don7:- - - -        True Line Trains  in Canada made these locos and 1,000 were made or 100 in 10 different schemes, thats what the original brochure said.

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, December 2, 2011 6:21 PM

I think by now that Don already knows that.

Rich

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