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Traction Tire Help
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 4:46 PM
The traction tire on my HO FEF-3 came off and I can't figure out how to get it back on. Here's a pic:



Sorry about the glare, I couldn't figure out how to turn the stupid flash off[;)]. The little loop coming off of the main driver is the traction tire. Thanks in advance![:)]
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Thursday, August 12, 2004 5:07 PM
Get it started on the top of the driver, then work both sides to the bottom. Do it gently, you may want to use a small flat bladed screwdriver to help, especiallu at the bottom.

You are lucky it didn't break, because you would have to remove the side rods to get a new one on.
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Posted by dave9999 on Thursday, August 12, 2004 5:45 PM
When the traction tire came off of my Allegheny, I used a couple of toothpicks to
work it back into place. Dave
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 7:30 PM
I'm still running one tire on my Allegheny on level track.
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Posted by dave9999 on Friday, August 13, 2004 8:23 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999

When the traction tire came off of my Allegheny, I used a couple of toothpicks to
work it back into place. Dave


And....

Make sure you don't have a twist in the tire when you get it back in place. Dave
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Friday, August 13, 2004 11:53 AM
Have you gotten it back on yet Jonathon? I'm not sure what's up with the photo, it worked yesterday wen you first posted it, then it quit.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 16, 2004 6:03 PM
Sorry guys, I was on vacation. I haven't tried to get it back on yet, but thanks for the tips. Funny thing is, I never saw the tire before it came off, which leads me to think it was in a different place........
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Posted by Fergmiester on Monday, August 16, 2004 6:12 PM
I peeled both traction tires off my Allegheny didn't notice it until she started having problems hauling a 50 car consist up the 5% grade. Had to remove the side rods to put new ones on.

Oh the Horror!

I've had a fair bit experience doing this Jonathin, However not without much anguish. If you do have to replace the traction tires and your not quite sure how to haul the beast apart then I would suggest you get someone with some experience on the first time. Once shown it will be a fairly simple task.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:21 AM
Well I got it back on and 844's running as we speak. I used a flat head screw driver to wrap it around the driver while my finger held it in place. Thanks for all the help guys!
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:25 PM
Well done Jonathon. Now keep an eye on that, because once it's done that, it's likely to do it again. The only difference is, now you are an expert at fixing it.[swg]
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Posted by Don Gibson on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:19 PM
'Tire's are a cheap way to get pulling power. Adding weight is better.
But Adding weight puts strain on cheap motors.
Tires also reduce electrical pickup.
Tires also - over time need replacement
Adding weight can screw up quartering of pressed-on wheels (Steam)

Your dollars - your choice.
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Posted by twhite on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:38 PM
OMYGOD, Fergie, you've got a 5% grade? And the Allegheney wouldn't hack it with only 50 cars? And here, I thought I was okay when my Allegheney rolled off of its tires up a 2.4% with only 30 cars and didn't even wobble. Seriously, I didn't even notice a drop in pulling power when I lost the traction tires, I wonder if it's the same for the UP 4-8-4? Out here in California, in our garages in the wonderful balmy (103) summer Central Valley heat, you're taking your life in your hands if you run a traction-tired locomotive for very long. I have to be VERY careful, even with the fan on.
But I see from Jonathan's address that he lives in a colder climate. Just hope his traction tires don't freeze and shatter off this winter. By the way, Jonathan, LOVE the quote at the bottom of your E-mail. I'm using it at school, this year, hope you don't mind.
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Don Gibson

'Tire's are a cheap way to get pulling power. Adding weight is better.
But Adding weight puts strain on cheap motors.
Tires also reduce electrical pickup.
Tires also - over time need replacement
Adding weight can screw up quartering of pressed-on wheels (Steam)

Your dollars - your choice.


Most of us aren't big fans of tracton tires, but some manufacturers insist on putting them on their models. I'm with you, I wi***hey didn't. Atlas and Athearn come to mind quickly as ones that don't.

The problem is that if the engine is designed for tires, then you're sort of stuck with them. Leaving them off isn't really an option, because the wheel is milled down to accept the tire.

In the end maybe the best option is to avoid buying those models that have tires. If we as consumers don't buy those models, eventually the manufacturers will get the message. However, the models with tires are usually the most affordable. Pick your poison.[swg]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:52 PM
Well, the FEF-3 did come with an extra set of drivers without the traction tire on it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by twhite

OMYGOD, Fergie, you've got a 5% grade? And the Allegheney wouldn't hack it with only 50 cars? And here, I thought I was okay when my Allegheney rolled off of its tires up a 2.4% with only 30 cars and didn't even wobble. Seriously, I didn't even notice a drop in pulling power when I lost the traction tires, I wonder if it's the same for the UP 4-8-4? Out here in California, in our garages in the wonderful balmy (103) summer Central Valley heat, you're taking your life in your hands if you run a traction-tired locomotive for very long. I have to be VERY careful, even with the fan on.
But I see from Jonathan's address that he lives in a colder climate. Just hope his traction tires don't freeze and shatter off this winter. By the way, Jonathan, LOVE the quote at the bottom of your E-mail. I'm using it at school, this year, hope you don't mind.
Nope, I don't mind at all! Just out of curiosity, what will you be using it for?

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