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Thomas the tank engine
Posted by wedudler on Monday, November 7, 2011 8:50 AM

Has anyone installed sound into this little engine?

I've got the H0 version for my grand daughter. And of course this engine needs sound - like my other engines.

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, November 7, 2011 9:41 AM

I would try doing a web search, I recall somebody a few years ago posted an online article on converting Thomas to DCC. IIRC the same guy offered a service where he would install a decoder (and lights if wanted). I imagine you could follow the same steps to add a sound decoder as a regular one, but would have to either live with a very small speaker or perhaps put a large speaker in Annie or Clarabel.

Not sure about recent versions, but the original Thomas wasn't DCC ready and required the engine to be electrically isolated from the frame so wasn't an easy installation.

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Posted by DigitalGriffin on Monday, November 7, 2011 9:42 AM

I've seen it done & it's not pretty.  (This from the guy who installs sound in Bachmann Spectrum 0-6-0Ts)

You do realize the Bachmann version isn't the best little runner?  And that your decoder will cost more than the loco right?

 

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Posted by wedudler on Monday, November 7, 2011 9:49 AM

It's for the grand daughter to give her fun.

Well, and the decoder isn't useless, you can use it again. If the 2 1/2 old longs after Thomas I have not a problem like if she goes after mine steamer. Smile

Now I've installed some lead, light and try a Lenz MX 648.

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Monday, November 7, 2011 10:48 AM

I have an HO Thomas that has been converted to DCC.  I don't believe there is room for sound.  It's pretty tight in there.  You might have to put the sound in Annie.

This guy can convert it for you, or will sell you one already converted.

http://www.dcctrain.com/shop/search.aspx?sfield=keywords&search=thomas 

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Posted by simon1966 on Monday, November 7, 2011 4:34 PM

How it was done, I have no idea, but there is a Bachmann HO Thomas that is run regularly at the K-10 Model trains open house, including yesterday.  I has sound with decent enough volume to drive everyone nuts as the kid won't leave the whistle button alone!  Also there has been an LED installed in the small lantern on the front.  The OO scale Hornby Thomas is much bigger BTW.

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Posted by G Paine on Monday, November 7, 2011 4:52 PM

For a non-sound installation, Train Control Systems (TCS) recommends their MC2 decoder . This link shows how someone did the installation (warning - photo intensive)
http://www.tcsdcc.com/public_html/Customer_Content/Installation_Pictures/HO_Scale/Bachmann/Thomas%20The%20Tank%20Limited%202002/Spectrum%20Thomas%20The%20Tank.html

They also include instructions for decoder installations for Henery, Gordon, James, Toby and Duck. Search for Thomas here
http://www.tcsdcc.com/public_html/Customer_Content/Installation_Pictures/HO_Scale/HO_Search/search.html

If a sound decoder will not fit into Thomas, consider installing it into a car permanently coupled to Thomas.

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Posted by simon1966 on Monday, November 7, 2011 5:47 PM

G Paine

If a sound decoder will not fit into Thomas, consider installing it into a car permanently coupled to Thomas.

As I said above, there is a Bachmann Thomas with a DCC sound decoder installed that runs at our club.  So it most certainly can be done.  It is not fitted into Anni or Clarabel I can assure you.  I would assume it must be a micro Tsunami or an ESU.  If the kids Grandfather (he who did the installation) is there next weekend I will ask him.

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Monday, November 7, 2011 8:05 PM

I'd love to see where he put the speaker.

Mine has a TCS decoder and front and rear lights.

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Posted by wedudler on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:25 AM

I had the wrong decoder, I need the new ESU Loksound micro 4.0 or Lenz MX648. Those are smaller.

I've added lead into the "water tanks".

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:51 AM

Train Buddy is the guy who did the DCC installation I was talking about earlier. He has instructions available online.

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Posted by Dave Merrill on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 9:20 AM

Phoebe Vet

I'd love to see where he put the speaker.

Mine has a TCS decoder and front and rear lights.

Phoebe,

What lamps did you use?

Thanks,

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 9:40 AM

They are LEDs.  Alex at DCC train did it for me:

http://www.dcctrain.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=2985 

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:10 AM

Wolfgang,

You're almost there.  Maybe folks don't remember the little GE you built?Surprise

Simon's also got a good point. The OO version runs on good ol' 1;87 track, but has a larger form factor because it's built to the larger British scale. I have no idea if there's more extra room inside than the HO version, but it's worth taking a look if you are considering the project.

 

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Posted by simon1966 on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 11:31 AM

The other difference with the Hornby and the Bachmann is that the Hornby one is based on an actual British tank engine prototype and looks more like the original drawings in the Awdrey books.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LB%26SCR_E2_class  the Bachmann on the other hand is based much more on the cartoonish Thomas that appeared in later years in the TV shows.   This means that the Bachmann Thomas looks more like the real thing to kids eyes as probably most  do not get exposed to the original stories in their printed form.

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Posted by mlehman on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 4:39 PM

Simon,

That's definitely good to know for those who are dealing with Thomas rivet-counters.Wink

On the other hand, I'm totally clueless about such differences. Maybe even apathetic about them...Sleep

I'm of the age that finds Thomas annoying, but of the sensibility that he and his friends are also absolutely necessary and the best thing that's happened to railroading since the Cumbres and Toltec...although I guess Thomas, the character, as you've noted, predates that.

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Posted by wedudler on Wednesday, November 9, 2011 4:08 AM

My point for this engine is it's cheap and nothing to break off like with my engines. The 2 1/2 years old grand daughter will have fun. And the sound decoder is two times the engine but not discarded. I can use it in another engine if time comes.

I think those little kids like sound. When I saw how the grand daughter bent her finger when pushing the buttons at my throttle.... Smile

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:23 AM

 There was just a video I saw the other day of another friend of Thomas with soumnd, I think it was either Percy or James. If anyoen can make it fit, I have faith in Wolfgang, after managing sound in one of those little Grandt Lien boxcabs, Thomas should be huge in comparison.

Here's a Thomas, but they cheated and put the speaker in Annie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh62cdso7Ag&feature=related

Here's James, but he has a tender: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT9AiNX7n6o&feature=related They even added a clip of the theme music.

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Posted by wedudler on Friday, December 2, 2011 1:48 PM

Now I've installed an decoder, Lenz MX648.

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Posted by wedudler on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:24 PM

Here's a video  from Thomas, with light and sound.

Decoder is Zimo MX648, I've also added a Kadee coupler at the rear. I have still to adjust the CV's a little bit.

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Posted by SMassey on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:39 PM

wedudler

Has anyone installed sound into this little engine?

I've got the H0 version for my grand daughter. And of course this engine needs sound - like my other engines.

Wolfgang

On another forum I am a member of some one has added an N scale sound decoder to Thomas and has also programed custom sounds.  Thomas will say (in Thomas' voice) "bust my buffers" and "I'm a really useful engine" when the right keys are pressed.  I believe the decoder he used was from Digitrax and he programed it with a PR3.  I would post a link to the thread that has it but due to forum rules I cant.  Send me a PM and I will shoot you the link through e-mail.  He does not have the ability to post video at the moment but we are waiting for it soon.

 

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