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Tragedy on UP Sub.!

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Tragedy on UP Sub.!
Posted by Acela026 on Sunday, October 9, 2011 8:54 PM

Today at 1:23 PM an Amtrak F40PH plowed through two passenger cars, knocking them, and rolling stock on the adjacent track, off.

 

After some careful investigation by railroad personell, a detached brake line was found to be the culprit. 

Says UP railroad spokesperson Jeff Jefferson "This was a freak accident.  Well, no, actually not.  The brake line was not attached like it should have been and the engineer was travelling way faster than he should have been.  The tracks to the silo have  a 15mph restriction on them.  Every engineer in this subdivision knows that." 

Fortunatly there were no injuries.  "I cut my thumb getting out of the locomotive" said Robby Grey, engineer of the train on the adjacent track to the accident.  "I need some time off now.  Maybe some workers comp." 

District officer of UP's new subdivision (ZXNMVBC--UP officals have yet to decied on an offical name.) who wishes to remain unnamed at this point, was frustrated.  "Come on, people!  This subdivision isn't even offically open yet and already we have had a serious accident.  We need to set out our priorities... but I think we can wait to reopen the line until morning.  It's late and that line hardly ever gets used anyway." 

[Name of newspaper here] will keep you informed on the progress of the accident.

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Posted by Acela026 on Sunday, October 9, 2011 8:56 PM

OR I guess I might have left the power on in that block without knowing it...

Sorry for the crummy photos, my phone doesn;t have the best camera in low light.  THis was too good to pass up, though. 

Acela

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Sunday, October 9, 2011 9:20 PM

"Fortunately there were no injuries........."

What?!  With a Superliner unit laying on its side? 

1. So was the F40 being switched on to an empty batch of passenger cars in preparation for it's run?

2. Was this an official Amtrak train, or a transfer move?

3. Has the FRA been contacted yet?  If so, have qualified inspectors arrived on the scene yet? 

4.  Any impact on nearby residential neighborhoods or vehicular traffic?

5. Have the locomotives and cars been inspected yet for hazard related damages?

6. Any potential environmental hazards or damages? (any fuel or lubricative fluid spillage from the locomotive due to punctures? Any spillage from the passenger equipment from toilet tanks?   

7. Did the railroad officials debrief the crew yet?  Has the train crew been drug tested? 

8. Any determination as to why the brake line was not connected?  Was the conductor questioned regarding the disconnected brake line?

9. Any early indications as to why the collision occurred?  Was sabotage a factor?

10. Has the railroad's public relations representative been briefed yet on the details before he/she talks to hard-charging news reporters?

11.  Any early estimates as to the financial costs of this collision to the railroad(s) involved?

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Posted by Acela026 on Monday, October 10, 2011 5:56 PM

AntonioFP45

"Fortunately there were no injuries........."

What?!  With a Superliner unit laying on its side? 

1. So was the F40 being switched on to an empty batch of passenger cars in preparation for it's run?

2. Was this an official Amtrak train, or a transfer move?

3. Has the FRA been contacted yet?  If so, have qualified inspectors arrived on the scene yet? 

4.  Any impact on nearby residential neighborhoods or vehicular traffic?

5. Have the locomotives and cars been inspected yet for hazard related damages?

6. Any potential environmental hazards or damages? (any fuel or lubricative fluid spillage from the locomotive due to punctures? Any spillage from the passenger equipment from toilet tanks?   

7. Did the railroad officials debrief the crew yet?  Has the train crew been drug tested? 

8. Any determination as to why the brake line was not connected?  Was the conductor questioned regarding the disconnected brake line?

9. Any early indications as to why the collision occurred?  Was sabotage a factor?

10. Has the railroad's public relations representative been briefed yet on the details before he/she talks to hard-charging news reporters?

11.  Any early estimates as to the financial costs of this collision to the railroad(s) involved?

The local papers are currently working on stories to give a more detailed look into the accident.  Until then, we are waitng for a press release.  Big Smile  Expect a full detail story later this week. 

Acela

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Posted by SMassey on Monday, October 10, 2011 7:15 PM

LOL that is good.  I did something like this back when I was in the Tidewater Modular club.  I was running a high speed freight, good clear track ahead of me for miles and she was pulling about 70 MPH.  I came across a revene at twin bridges and the tracks were damaged and no one had yet flag this area for slow running.  I lost 5 cars total when they derailed and 2 even ended up down the revene. 

I made up an incident report, investigation report, and a public press report over the incident.  I made sure to take photos of the scene.  I had detailed cost fugures for the cleanup, equipment damage and also for environmental damage as well.  I presented my findings at the next meeting of our club, and we all got a good laugh about it.  I even got pics of the wreck crew recovering the 2 cars that went down the revene. 

 

The owner fixed the damaged track that night and full speed running was once again possible on the layout.

 

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Posted by cudaken on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:18 PM

 Monon freight train blew a single. One car did hit the floor. Bang Head

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Posted by Coquihala and Rock Creek on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:50 PM

So just wondering if the engineer and conductor will be sent for "random" drug testing?  Sorry had to be asked.  It's an OHS issue.  This area has now been declared an unsafe work environment until the official Work Safe Investigation is complete (due to the severe thumb injury) as well as the wrecked train thingy.....

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Posted by galaxy on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:19 PM

Say it ain't so!!!

Don't you just HATE when that happens?

DO the surviving passengers get free tickets for a new train ride on any UP service across the country or at least their money for this trip refunded to them???

Whistling

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Posted by SMassey on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 7:20 PM

galaxy
DO the surviving passengers get free tickets for a new train ride on any UP service across the country or at least their money for this trip refunded to them???

Whistling

 

Why is it that you are offered a free ticket when things go wrong but you had to pay for it to go wrong in the first place?  I had a US Air flight that went wrong from the minute I boarded the plane and I just wanted to get home and away from these people.  Lets just say that what happened to me would take too much space on this forum.  They wanted me to give up my son's seat because they overbooked the plane and were going to offer me a free ticket anywhere in the US for it.  After my 12 hour flight from Seattle to Norfolk was going into the 19th hour (because of the airline) I was made this offer again!  What part of no and I will never fly on your airline again do you not understand. 

Now you need to ask yourself if you had a really bad experience with service "A" would you go with them again free or not or would you send your business to service "B"?

I vote B

 

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Posted by Acela026 on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:43 PM

Sorry for all the building anticipation!  Maybe this weekend I can gather some time for an offical press release. Big Smile 

Acela

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Posted by Truck on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:52 PM

The engineer was problably talking on the phone and or taking pictures of the scenery with it, and not paying attention to his duties.

The FRA's investigation will conclude that human error was cause of accident. Engineer may be suspended and or terminated.   How  sad.

 

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Posted by JBCA on Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:07 AM

When an engineer on a model railroad is 'terminated' is he really, uh, . . . . TERMINATED! Dead

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Posted by joe323 on Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:24 PM

Fortunatly there were no injuries. "I cut my thumb getting out of the locomotive" said Robby Grey, engineer of the train on the adjacent track to the accident. "I need some time off now. Maybe some workers comp."

Being an Underwriter for a large WC carrier I got to ask did he file a claim and has it been settled or contraverted (challenged) yet? LOL

 

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Posted by Acela026 on Monday, October 17, 2011 7:11 PM

Oh, dear! Shame on me!  Embarrassed

Uhhh, is this weekend okay for a press release? Confused

 

Acela Sigh  

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Posted by galaxy on Monday, October 17, 2011 7:31 PM

joe323

Fortunatly there were no injuries. "I cut my thumb getting out of the locomotive" said Robby Grey, engineer of the train on the adjacent track to the accident. "I need some time off now. Maybe some workers comp."

Being an Underwriter for a large WC carrier I got to ask did he file a claim and has it been settled or contraverted (challenged) yet? LOL

 

Yes, he should DEFINITELY file a claim, receive two months off with full pay from worker's comp.

I DO hope he was taken to seek medical help in an ambulance from the scene fo the accident.

If he required stitches for the cut, he needs at least 3 months to heal and rehabilitate his injured thumb through massage therapy and occupational therapy.

Naturally, all medical bills should be covered.

And, of course, his job should be held for him until he is able to return to work fully recovered and rehabilitated, with his work record intact and time on the job for the three months or rehab accrued towards his pension.

Should he decide to, he could seek a payout for "pain and suffering", and for "mental anguish", and for "distressful rectitude {correctness of procedure}".

Geeked

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