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Scratchbuilt Ingersoll-Rand / GE Boxcab NOW PAINTED :-D

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Scratchbuilt Ingersoll-Rand / GE Boxcab NOW PAINTED :-D
Posted by Graffen on Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:22 AM

Hello in the summer heat :lol:
I have always had a desire for a special locomotive for my freelanced switching layout.
It all started when I read about the small port terminals in New York and the locomotives they were using.
Central of New Jersey had an Ingersoll Rand locomotive that is one of the first commercially made diesel locomotives:
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A very beautiful locomotives in my opinion :pleasantry:
Then came Tim Warris with his Bronx Terminal in HO (an incredible layout).
There he showed how to take a brass Boxcab and rebuild the drive to get it to run as well as it looks.
The problem with just Boxcabs is that the only models that are available are either made of brass and costs a fortune, and runs like a bag of s**t.
Or you may have to be be content with an old Roundhouse locomotives in plastic that is also going like muck ... Plus, you have to add the extra detailing to make it look reasonably good .....
Neither option was very good :(
I thought it would be nice to build one myself.
One problem was that it was really tricky to get hold of the drawings of the locomotive.
Luckily, as I am a member on a U.S. forum, where one of the members have recently built an I-R Boxcab in brass and in S-scale.
I emailed him about the drawings and he emailed me back everything he had as PDFs :D
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I had to resize it a bit before I got the printouts right for HO.
After some thoughts and inquiries, I finally found a locomotive that would do as a chassis donor:
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(See http://www.rmweb.co....__1#entry410924)
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Apparently it is a bit of a difference in length. but very acceptable to me.
I decided that I would build the new body in plastic, which could be a challenge.
I used 1, 0.5 and 0.25 mm plasticard and some profiles.
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This is about everything you need for the basic construction (needle files and tweezers are not in the picture).
I drew up the parts with an ink-pen and drilled the corners of the windows before I cut them out with an Xacto-knife.
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This is "the base wall" , made of 0.5 mm plastic On to it, the embossed outer skins of 0.25 mm plastic will be applied. That way I get good stability in the body and a "plate-like" appearance.
The chassis was shortened 4 mm on one side, and the entire original decoder with lights sent into the round-archive ;).
I made two boards to mount my LED's and resistors on.
The Lenz decoder was hard wired in and mounted above the motor, but under the weight.
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I made a new base of 1 mm plastic.
This is how it looked after I glued the walls to the base:
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I made the outer skins and the inner window frames of 0.25 mm plastic.
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The outer skins, I placed (upside down) on the drawing, and used a self-made light table to emboss all the rivets with a needle in a wooden holder.
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I can now reveal, that when you venture into this kind of construction, without having tested the techniques, it can REALLY go down the drains!
The picture that follows shows just that:
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First, it did not work out with my roof, it was formed like a Banana..... Luckily I found a roof in the scrap box that could be cut to shape and be used instead.
It was not the biggest problem .......
I had glued the body together and glued the window frames in place before applying the outer skins with the embossed rivets :(.
It did not work out that way, so I started from scratch :blink: .
But as I had done it once, it went rather quickly the second time ......
The Chassi beams are plasticard I-beams 2.5 mm.
I had almost feared the construction of the roof mounted radiators ....
Fortunately, I had a piece of corrugated patterned plasticard. I shaped a piece of 0.5 mm metal in the right curvature, then I took the plastic, forcing it to follow the shape of the plate and secured it with clamps and then dipped the whole shebang in boiling water for a few minutes. When it had cooled down I had a row of convincing cooling tubes in the right shape!
So here is the build as it stands right now, just some paint and small details remain:
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The exhaust pipes on the roof is turned from beech in a drill stand ;)
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Scratchbuilding is FUN! :D

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Posted by AltonFan on Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:38 AM

Graffen

It did not work out that way, so I started from scratch http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif .
But as I had done it once, it went rather quickly the second time ......
Scratchbuilding is FUN! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_emoticons/default/grin.gif

There was a rather prominent model railroader (was it Dean Freytag?  I don't remember), who came to a clinic with a very nicely constructed bridge.  He showed the bridge to the audience, pointed out the model's shortcomings, and then smashed the bridge to splinters, all to make the point that a modeler has to be willing to toss a project and be willing to start over if said project is not turning out right.  To be willing to do this is probably more important for someone trying out some new skills.

I look forward to seeing photos of the painted model.  Those ancient I-R diesels were pretty interesting.

Dan

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Posted by G Paine on Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:21 PM

Excellent work!!! I can't wait to see the finished painted model. The 70 tonner is a good choice for the donor power unit.

Bow Bow Bow

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Posted by modelmaker51 on Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:17 PM

Excellent job! I was a bit sceptical about using .050 styrene for walls as it has a tendency to warp over time, but I hope for you that with your "sandwich construction it will hold up. I liked your "boiling water" technique.

As a fellow scratch builder, the thing I always hated the most was and is, adding rivets! Archer Fine Transfers makes scale cast resin decals of rivets, louvers and treadplate. They are cast/printed on Microscale's Thin Film. They are applied before painting and the film completely dissapears, leaving just the 3-D rivets. Having used all 3 products on several models, I can highly recommend them. Here's a shot of the 5/8" rivets on a handrail stantion:  You can check them out here: http://www.archertransfers.com/SurfaceDetailsMain.html  An example of the Archer treadplate (scroll down about halfway): http://dieseldetailer.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=cent&action=display&thread=6922&page=3

Jay 

C-415 Build: https://imageshack.com/a/tShC/1 

Other builds: https://imageshack.com/my/albums 

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Posted by htgguy on Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:36 PM

Very impressive work, and a great description of what you did and how it was done. Thanks for sharing.

Jim

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Posted by Geared Steam on Thursday, June 16, 2011 6:04 PM

Great job Graffen, I too like those boxcabs. I went a different route with the MDC shell on a Spectrum 44 ton chassis. Less detail yes but a great runner.

"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."-Albert Einstein

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Posted by DingySP on Thursday, June 16, 2011 6:32 PM

Nice work Graffen. Scratch building is fun to do...and to watch!

Tom

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, June 16, 2011 8:56 PM

Great work Graffen! Thanks for sharing and for the inspiration.

Dave

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Posted by Graffen on Friday, June 17, 2011 11:24 AM

Thanks all Big Smile, I will look at the rivet decals for sure!

I have painted it now:









Not really finished yet, a few windows to finish and so.... :)

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Posted by rs2mike on Saturday, June 18, 2011 2:31 PM

I too am a fan of the boxcab.  Also built from the roundhouse kit with the original gearing but new can motor.  Will be upgrading to a bachmann chasis when I can.


alco's forever!!!!! Majoring in HO scale Minorig in O scale:)

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