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need something to do? building a SP/SSW SD40T-2 step by step (finished pics!!!!)

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Posted by brothaslide on Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jfugate

This is one case where I could really use a "print topic" function!

Great topic ... like to see more like this -- which is why I've posted my FORUM CLINIC posts.

Any other takers?



Joe,

I converted the thread to a PDF. Hope this helps.

http://www.twinimaging.com/Trains.com_-_need_something_to_do__building_a_SP_SSW_SD40T-2.pdf
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Posted by jfugate on Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:55 PM
This is one case where I could really use a "print topic" function!

Great topic ... like to see more like this -- which is why I've posted my FORUM CLINIC posts.

Any other takers?

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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:40 AM
Crawler, you could've turn that whole thing into an article in MR or somthing.

You put the "model" in model railroading. [tup]

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:38 AM
Whew!

Took me a while, but I saved 25 of those pictures that are on page one of this topic! Great references for kitbashing as I'm modifying two Athearn U-Boats.

This, IMHO, has been one of the BEST TOPICS posted on this forum. If there was ever a "Forum Hall of Fame", created for the MRR Forum, this topic should be the first one inducted!

Peace and Thanks a lot.

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Posted by JohnT14808 on Friday, March 11, 2005 11:04 PM
Really cool work, Nightcrawler!! Excellent photos to go with the detailed commentary. A great job!! ....Now, if I could only find a similiar post having to do with installing a DCC decoder in a older Roundhouse (MDC) 2-6-0 Mogul....with pics, of course!!!
A wonderful post, NC...thanks for the inspiration.
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Posted by ericsp on Friday, March 11, 2005 7:59 PM
Outstanding. Unfortunately it has been too long since I have seen a real SD40T-2 with SP, SSW, or DRGW numbers. I am starting to go through withdrawals.

I noticed you plan to have 16 SD40T-2s. Is this to model them close to the proportions of the real ones, 8 SP short nose, 1 SSW long nose, 3 SP long nose, and 4 DRGW short nose? That is my plan.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 11, 2005 2:40 PM
Now that's good modelling. I've always felt the late Athearn SD40 drive was one of their best BB ones (with one piece driveshafts) and the detail work looks brilliant too. I think my SD40T-2 will now be one of my first BB DCC conversions, especially if I can find the detail parts - inspired by this project. Great stuff!
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Posted by jfugate on Friday, March 11, 2005 2:19 PM
Here's hoping Athearn does an updated SD40T-2 as well ... they can add DRGW to their paint scheme collection if they do.

Since I model the SP in the 1980s, a DRGW SD40T-2 or two would not be out of place on the Siskiyou Line in the late 1980s ...

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:30 PM
QUOTE: Great job really nice craftsmanship NightCrawler! What kind of chassis did you use on the SD40T-2? And how did you secure the shell to the chassis?


i used the regular Athearn SD40T-2 chassis. the SD50 motor fits right in. i just use the couplers to hold the body onto the chassis. i had to grind down the coupler mounting pads a bit so i could screw on the Kadee coupler boxes. that way everything is isolated for DCC and the screw-on coupler boxes hold the shell on pretty well.


thanks for all the compliments[:D] i was thinking of doing a SD45T-2 once till Athearn announced theirs. now i just have 12 on order, but i still have to add new cabs with the rebuilt L windows to make them right for my era. i wish someone would hurry up and make a really nice SD40T-2 that's up to todays standards. i could use 12 of those too[:O][:D] i dont think i could talk myself into building more of them myself....that was a lot of work!!![:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:40 PM
That was enough to make me want to go to walthers.com and buy some detailing parts!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:11 PM
Great job really nice craftsmanship NightCrawler! What kind of chassis did you use on the SD40T-2? And how did you secure the shell to the chassis?
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Posted by SSW9389 on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:16 PM
Dang, NightCrawler even did a COTTON BELT tunnel motor. What a novel idea.
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Posted by SP4449 on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:31 AM
Great job. [bow] to you. It would be interesting to see what you could do with a bash of the SD45T-2.
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Posted by fishplate on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:23 AM
HEY!!!! Quit crawling and STAND UP and TAKE A BOW. [bow]
EXQUISITE WORK!!!!! [tup] [tup]
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 1:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by NightCrawler

i used some "Gap filling" CA. it is pretty thick stuff. i spread some around the edges of the hole then placed the grill on top. it seems to hold really well so far.


Thanks! Will give it a shot! The next FP45 I do is the Santa Fe Dark Blue/Yellow " " Face- Mask Scheme. I'll paint the model after putting on the grills.

[:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 1:12 PM
Nice job Night Crawler!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:36 AM
i used some "Gap filling" CA. it is pretty thick stuff. i spread some around the edges of the hole then placed the grill on top. it seems to hold really well so far.
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:06 AM
Nightcrawler,

All I can say about your work: STUNNING CRAFTSMANSHIP! I'm printing up this thread and refer to it as I detail my HO units.[swg][tup]

Question: What type of glue did you use for the "See Thru" grills?? And, what technique did you use? Any tips or hints would be greatly appreciated! [8)]

As you might have read on another post, I cut out the plastic radiator grills out of an Athearn FP45 and attempted to installed See Thru grills cut from Plano metal grill material (Plano Products). Looked really nice! I then applied Ambroid but they were still a little loose so I came back with liquid CA. Winded up ruining the surrounding body area! I have 3 more FP45s, so I want to try again "the right way!" by using the "gel" type CA and taking my sweet time![:)][:D][8D][8)]

God Bless!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 1:09 AM
thanks! I dont think i will be trying this again [:D] that was a little more work than i have time to do. i have one more hard poject, and thats the pair of SP TEBU's that i am going to be starting on next. they will be basically a complete scratchbuild from the walkways up. they dont look too hard to build, not many complicated pieces except for the DB section.

stay tuned for my next guide on building the TEBU's!!!! you can watch me really screw them up[:D][:O][:D][:D].
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:35 AM
I think I have the right to say one word: WOW![:0][:0][:0][:0][:0][:0][:0][:0][:0]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 16, 2004 8:47 PM
FINISHED!!!



after all the previous parts were installed, i painted the unit with Polly Scale SP Lark dark grey and SP scarlet. after the paint had dried, i sprayed the locomotive with Teators Glosscote and let it dry. then i added the decals from Microscale (items 87-447, 87-1069, 87-857) i brush on some of Microscales micro-set, then add the decal. after that dries, i brush on some Micro-sol. after the micro-sol dries, i pop any air bubbles and add some more. i usually do this 4 or 5 times so the decal really sits well into the cracks and lines of the shell. be sure the decal is completely dry before brushing on more or you will tear up the decal. the micro-sol makes them really soft and easy to ruin. after the declas had dried completely, i sprayed the model with testors Dullcote to seal everything and to prepare it for weathering.

I weathered these locomotives with a little bit of rust paint from floquil and some artists chalks (artists chalks can be found at almost any art or crafts store, get the softest kind they have, it blends better). i shave off some dust from the chalk stick then use a bru***o spread it around. after i got everything weathered the way i wanted it, i sprayed on another coat of dullcote to seal the chalk.

now, it's time to add the windows and some other details. the details i added were A line brass sunshades (item 29210), Details West MU cables (item MU-236), DW MU hose (item MU-266) and DW rotary beacon (item RB-106) i also added the nose grabs and then i added the handrails. give the ends of the handrails and the step edges a touch of white paint, and paint all the other details. then run the wires for the lights, install the bulbs in their holes, and secure the wires with tape or glue to the top of the shell to keep them out of the way. you will have to drill out the light holes in the Sunrise castings. i used a #55 drill bit to do this.

as for the couplers, i decided to use #58 couplers with the coupler boxes. you will have to grind or file down the coupler mounting pad to get them the correct height. then secure the shell to the chassis, screw in the couplers, and you are ready to haul; some freight!!

here is the finished product

SSW #8373 (SD40T-2 with the 123" nose)





SP #8301 (SD40T-2 with the 116" nose)





SP #8235 (SD40T-2 with an 88" nose and extended range dtnamic brakes)





SP # 8340 (SD40T-2 with the 123" nose)


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 13, 2004 3:44 PM
i found pictures of the Sufferrn Pacific SD40R on http://espee.railfan.net click on diesel index, then on 6 axel EMD's, then you will see a link for it at the bottom of the road number list.

it doesnt fit my era, but i had to make it anyway because it was so interesting [:D]
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Posted by brothaslide on Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:16 PM
Nightcrawler - I saw your "Suffern Pacific" and you said it actually exsisted. Could you give a little more back ground - Seems quite interesting.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 4:34 PM
Nightcrawler, you are truely amazing! This is exactly what this forum was made for.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:19 PM
thanks for all the compliments guys. i should have them finished this weekend and ready to hit the rails. every time i go into the hobby shop i buy stuff that i dont need and forget the stuff i do need [:D] i need to go again and get another drill bit so i can add the fuel fillers to the frames on the other 3.


i am starting to run out of Southern Pacific projects. the only locomotives i still need are ones that no one makes yet, except for the GP38-2 and GP40-2. i think that when i get done with these i'll try my hand at scratchbuilding/kitbashing a couple of SP TEBU's


Jeremy, i used the grills from S&S hobby products. i got them from Walthers.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:08 AM
Night Crawler, Your modeling is superb, as usual, I know you as TW on the Atlas forum, Folks, I have been keeping up with this man"s modeling for a long time, and he is a fantastic modeler, and kind and gentle in all his posts, never knew night crawler to let anyone get him to say any thing derigotory about anyone, He is just one super modeler, and I respect, and appreciate his efforts, as I know all of you do, Way to go TW, I mean Night Crawler, You are the best.


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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:05 AM
Fabulous post! Excellent use of this website. Perhaps MR will want to convert this into an article!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:12 PM
I for one don't like this post as now I'm going to ask the "War Department" for a grant to buy some Tunnel motors to do the same.[:D] Just if I could do such a great job. Very VERY nice work! I can't wait to see them painted. [bow][bow]

Jeremy

ps What did you use for the radiator grills?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by NightCrawler

a couple of items i forgot to mention. the antenna plane on the top of the long hood by the exhaust is a details west part. and if you look at the cab window, you'll see i added a post to the engineers side of the L window. when most of the SP SD40T-2's got rebuilt, they got this modification. but at least one that i know of lasted into UP ownership still having the L shaped window.

Just a little side note for SP modelers. All SP SD45's had the "L" windshield removed during rebuilding. Thanks for the how-to!
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Posted by wt259 on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:25 PM
Great Job!!!! A very nice series on several different locos, thanks for putting it on here. I can't wait to see the finished product when you get em painted up and decaled.

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