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Exposed Locomotive Engines
Posted by PlowGuy on Friday, January 28, 2011 8:44 PM

Hey Everyone, New to the forum , been looking around for quite some time, so I figured it was time to sign up!

Anyway, I just finished up another model the other day, it was an old Athern Milwaukee Road GP-7  that I custom painted and weathered in my favorite Boston and Maine scheme. I removed the access panels to show off the Walthers Cornerstone EMD "567" power unit. I also made some access panel doors in the back to show the generator.

I have seen these engine kits used on shop floors and as loads on flat cars but hadnt really seen too many used in this fashion. Just curious to see what others have done or used to show an engine being worked on. I'd love to see some pictures. Thanks!

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Posted by Martin4 on Friday, January 28, 2011 9:08 PM

Very nice work, and your weathering is great too !

I'm planing to do about the same with a dummy GP35 but with open doors instead of removed hood like yours. Right now I search which Cannon doors are needed for this project.

Where did you get information about correct placement of the diesel engine and other visible mechanical parts ?

 

Martin

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Posted by J Campbell on Friday, January 28, 2011 10:01 PM

Pretty snazzy.

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Posted by Steve_F on Friday, January 28, 2011 10:53 PM

I bought the Walthers “567” with pretty much the same idea in mind after seeing someone else’s effort with an F7.

 

Two things that jump at me is 1st and I hate to do this but the generator should be at the other end, i.e. closest to the cab, the compressor and mechanical drive for the radiator fan would be where you have put the generator, sorry. Geeked

 

The other thing which surprises and confuses me is that the engine looks tight in side the over size Athearn body which has me asking myself if the scales are correct or it’s just due to the thickness of the plastic body?

 

Don’t mean to take anything away from your efforts, it does look good!

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Posted by PlowGuy on Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:55 AM

Wow...... I cant believe I put it in backwards!!!! Tongue Tied Nice first impression huh!?!?! LOL

I guess I'll use the excuse that thats why its being worked on!!!! hahaa

I did find it surprising that it was so big, but as we now all no I know nothing about how it should look or how big it should be. The kit was really nice, went together well, and looked like an engine!!! Hehehe The plastic walls are very thick which was a concern for me not only because it was hard to make precision cuts, but it does take away from the realism a little.

Thanks for all the comments, and I am good at taking constructive critisism Smile, Wink & Grin I have searched the internet for pictures of the real thing or oher prototypes but wasnt able to find much, or a good clear pic of how these things go together. I see trains all the time, but never get to see the "insides". Lesson learned, now the rest of you who want to build one will know which way the engine goes....LOL I have to laugh at myself sometimes!!! Anyway, Thanks again, and if anyone else has some pictures of  theirs, or how it should look please post them.

Now to see if I can switch this thing around!!!!!! Hehehe

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Posted by JonMN on Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:14 PM

Weathering looks great! Did your lip start to quiver a little when you found out the generator was on the wrong end? I know mine would have. Welcome to the forums. I look forward (or backward Bang Head ) to more of your work. Outstanding detail!

 

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Saturday, January 29, 2011 4:43 PM

The loco was an experimental unit testing manufacturing in China.  The backwards mounted motor wasn't discovered until it arrived in the states and checked over.

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Posted by Train Modeler on Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:15 PM

That is great.    Even if backwards.      Put the pics up again if you get it turned around.

Richard

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Posted by PlowGuy on Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:21 PM

LOL, You guys are great! I appriciate the compliments on my weatheing, honestly sometimes I feel I over due it. I dont even have a layout, I mostly just buy rolling stock and weather it in hopes to one day have a layout to run them on. I have plenty of room, but I am in the Military and fear that I will end up having to move and tear it all downSigh

I'll have to put up another post later with more pics of some of the other creations I have done..... as you can see by my user name I love Snowplows, so most of what I do has to do with snowfighting equipment and MOW cars.

Thanks for the chuckles....I see more backwards jokes in my future..... or would that be past???Laugh

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Posted by PennCentral99 on Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:37 AM

Awesome job!  As far as the backward parts, you could always blame "swing shift" (the parts are in the correct locations, they just put the body on backwards).

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Posted by ChadLRyan on Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:44 AM

Nice Work, I was wanting to do a similar project on an SD40-2 & need to make the service covers on the engine round, so that is where I am at. I also had the same issue as you as to not finding any internal or disassembled pictures. So, a year ago I asked here & another contributor gladly sent me this link, so I will pass it on! I has given me too many ideas, after studying all the great pictures. (Go to the PHOTO GALLERIES section, many pix in MISC.)

Hope this helps! 

http://www.altoonaworks.info/

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Posted by PlowGuy on Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:33 AM

Thanks for the link Chad, Talk about eye candy, there are tons of good modeling ideas from that link.... Awesome pics! Thanks again!

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Posted by CP5415 on Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:42 AM

The locomotive was probably built on the friday before a long weekend which is why the generator is on the wrong end!! Smile

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Posted by Railphotog on Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:48 PM

Neat model Steve!   Too bad about the engine being bass ackwards.  Can it be taken apart and rearranged?  Or would this mess up the door arrangements?

Many years ago before the Walthers diesel was available, I scratchbuilt one for my F-7 out of bits and pieces from my scrapbox:

I have one of the Walthers engines, and intended to put it into a dummy Athearn SD40-2, with Cannon doors in open position.  But other things got in the way and I never did get the model made.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by farrellaa on Sunday, January 30, 2011 6:11 PM

I just happen to have this photo I took last year. didn't get a full side view but you can see the cab to the left. Nice work anyhow, and yes I plan to do the same thing with one of mine.

Bob

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Posted by Ibflattop on Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:25 PM

PlowGuy!

is there a Ron in your engine Department that was playing a prank on you when he put an engine in backwards on his last day? I know the Same fella Hit my Engine Deartment also!!!!!!!   KB

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Posted by PlowGuy on Monday, January 31, 2011 7:17 AM

Thanks to Both Bob and Bob for the great pics, I have always loved that F7, and to think you scratchbuilt that engine with parts you had laying around is amazing, but as always wouldnt expect anything else from you! Top notch as always!

The pic of the Real Deal 567 is great, I still cant get over how big those roots blowers are!!!!! would like to have one of those for my car!!! LOL

I think I should be able to switch it around rather easily, I have learned from past experiances that when it comes o glue less is more, so I should be able to conduct a flip flop with little effort. I think it will give me a chance to add some more detail while I'm at it, now that I know what I'm looking at!!!

I'll post some more pics when its complete, I have another project on my plate that is taking priority, but this one next.

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Posted by packrat1701 on Monday, March 7, 2011 10:30 AM

That unit looks great.  I have been planning on making a DD35B with both motors showing.  Seeing these pics has got me thinking I should just go ahead and do it.  I am working on 4 DD35Bs right now.   I may just add this project in with the one I am working on now.  I will post some pics when complete.  Thanks for sharing.

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Posted by rogertra on Monday, March 7, 2011 2:15 PM

All steam locomotives have their engine exposed.

 

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Posted by jwhitten on Monday, March 7, 2011 3:31 PM

PlowGuy

Wow...... I cant believe I put it in backwards!!!! Tongue Tied Nice first impression huh!?!?! LOL

I guess I'll use the excuse that thats why its being worked on!!!! hahaa

I did find it surprising that it was so big, but as we now all no I know nothing about how it should look or how big it should be. The kit was really nice, went together well, and looked like an engine!!! Hehehe The plastic walls are very thick which was a concern for me not only because it was hard to make precision cuts, but it does take away from the realism a little.

Thanks for all the comments, and I am good at taking constructive critisism Smile, Wink & Grin I have searched the internet for pictures of the real thing or oher prototypes but wasnt able to find much, or a good clear pic of how these things go together. I see trains all the time, but never get to see the "insides". Lesson learned, now the rest of you who want to build one will know which way the engine goes....LOL I have to laugh at myself sometimes!!! Anyway, Thanks again, and if anyone else has some pictures of  theirs, or how it should look please post them.

Now to see if I can switch this thing around!!!!!! Hehehe

 

Actually it's not so bad. All you have to do to fix it is hold the motor and turn the engine around... Whistling

 

John

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