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1/87 School Bus (1950s) Updated

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Posted by steinjr on Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:29 AM

Southwest Chief

I know all about the lack of a quality school bus for HO scale if you model in the 1950s.  In fact I've been searching for anything decent for about 25 years now.

 Mmmm - a quick google located this web page with pictures of old school buses from various eras: http://www.schoolbusdriver.org/oldshots.html and http://www.schoolbusdriver.org/oldshots2.htm

 From a quick look, it seems like a Cor-Con summer camp bus (http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/223-1044) might be a sensible place to start, with a somewhat respectable result being achieved with a repaint job, and by replacing the octagonal stop sign with a rectangular sign saying "STOP".

If you can find one somewhere (ebay or whatever) a german Busch Mercedes bus might work with a repaint and some details/surgery : http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/189-41049

 Herpa has a school bus - front and wheels might be a little too modern looking: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/326-6100, but that might be fixable with a little light cosmetic surgery.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:25 AM

Not prototype but it looks better.

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Posted by G Paine on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:08 AM

If that does not work, the Jordan 1934 bus may work; you could assume the school system did not have funds to upgrade their bus fleet
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/360-229

or, if in a city the Jordan 1940s City Transit Bus could be painted yellow
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/360-244

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:06 AM

I'm doing a bit of surgery on the bus I have. I've removed the wheels and axles it came with and I'm putting in a set of wheels and axles from a junk Boley GMC truck I had laying around. So far it's looking good.

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Posted by Pathfinder on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:25 AM

jeffrey-wimberly

 

 Southwest Chief:

 

There are multiple versions of this bus by the way.  I've seen (online) them painted for the military, Simpsons, Monopoly, Partridge Family, and flames.

 

Glad you said something about that. I have the Partridge Family version. Here it is between a 1/87 scale truck and a 1/87 scale van.

 

http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/Running-Bear/P1011301-1.jpg

 

 

This looks fine to me in relation to the other 1/87 vehicles, except for the racing slick tires  Laugh  But then again it is the Partridge Family bus!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:54 AM

It's just as wide as the 1/87 scale truck beside it so it's not to overly big. 24 scale feet in length. 7.5 scale feet wide and 8.5 scale feet tall.

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:07 AM

Thanks for the photo.

So yeah a little big Sad 

Definitely looks to be slot car HO scale.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:24 PM

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There are multiple versions of this bus by the way.  I've seen (online) them painted for the military, Simpsons, Monopoly, Partridge Family, and flames.

Glad you said something about that. I have the Partridge Family version. Here it is between a 1/87 scale truck and a 1/87 scale van.

 

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Posted by Dave Merrill on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:11 PM

It is a slot car HO scale which is 1:64, visibily larger than a NMRA HO which is 1:87.

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Posted by Southwest Chief on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:52 PM

Hmm, interesting info so far.

If I can find one, I might just buy it and see how it looks.

Would love to see one in person though.  Maybe I can find one at the train show this weekend (Anaheim, CA).

 

There are multiple versions of this bus by the way.  I've seen (online) them painted for the military, Simpsons, Monopoly, Partridge Family, and flames.

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Posted by Train Modeler on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:46 PM

Probably the best way is to measure the wheels, width, etc.   Rims were most likely 20" as std.   Width would be 8 feet or less.   Vehicles were restricted to less than 96" wide until 1990s as best I recall.   It looks proportional from the photo.

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Posted by steemtrayn on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:41 PM

How wide is it?

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:13 PM

As far as I know the Johnny Lightning school bus is like the Matchbox trucks. Matchboxes trucks though tagged as 1/64 are very close to 1/87.

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1/87 School Bus (1950s) Updated
Posted by Southwest Chief on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:03 PM

I know all about the lack of a quality school bus for HO scale if you model in the 1950s.  In fact I've been searching for anything decent for about 25 years now.

Recently I came across some info (online) about a Johnny Lightning 1956 school bus. 

Some sites say it is 1/87, while others say it is 1/64.  I tend to believe it is more 1/64.  I'd guess we would have seen it on someone's layout or heard about it before now if it really was close to HO scale.

So anyone know if this is HO suitable? 

Over the years I've purged our layout of any vehicle that was not HO scale thanks to the many new offerings by Classic Metal Works, Busch, Woodland Scenics, etc...So if this bus is not close it would really stick out on our layout.

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