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Teen Model Railroad Place, Fall 2010
Posted by IVRW on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 6:16 PM

Well, school has started, and they dont name it the Fall semester for nothing. I thought I might be able to start the discussion for once, and I have an update to go with it. After sitting on my camera for 3 months, The pictures have finally seen the light. I give you the Bradley Woodard Timber Company. Please note that all three modules are plastered, and also crated, so updated pictures are not possible.

First, an overall shot

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To give you a better idea of a trackplan, here are some module by module photos.

Module 1: The closest track goes to the rest of the railroad, and the highest track is the switchback tail

 

Module 2: The closest track goes to the loading area of Camp 2, the next two tracks are the Camp 2 runaround, and the last two tracks are part of the switchback to Camp 3

Module 3: The two closest tracks (hard to see) are the loading area of Camp 2, the middle track is the runaround tail, switchback tail, and mainline to Camp 4, and the last two tracks are Camp 3

Now for the most updated picture I have. This is of the switchback tail, which, of course, is now plastered. Look at the pictures on the Newspaper.

Now, my proudest accomplishment, my first railcar kit. This is a Kadee Logging Caboose.

And now, I leave you with an older and artsy shot

~G4

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Posted by Packers#1 on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 7:17 PM

first, a link to the summer chill zone

John, sweet update, looks like some fun scenic potential and also spending a day switching with a shay should be a great experience on that layout man!

We actually have about two weeks of summer left, but true, school has started back

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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 10:04 PM

Hey guys, what's up? Haven't been around in forever!

Can't hang around long, so I'll catch up from the old place soon.

Hopefully, I'll FINALLY have my computer back tomorrow! Once I do, I'll be back to posting regularly again.

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Posted by modelbnsfer on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 11:27 PM

Hey Everyone,

John Nice Work

Sawyer Enjoy it! I have been back in school for a month already, counting down then days till summer.

Joe, Welcome back, I have been on to much lately either.

Peace Everyone,

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Posted by IVRW on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 6:49 AM

Joe, here is a short update.

I tore down my first railroad and started building a new one and Sawyer did the same. Basically, thats it.

One thing Ive noticed. Where is Tyler of the WRS? He hasn't posted a lot. I do want to hear some updates on said WRS.

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Posted by OldTrainFan on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 7:27 AM

I'll have to grab my camera sometime between school and mowing the lawn today and take some shots of my old train room...if you can call it that. :P My update will mostly be illustrating the various rolling stock and engines I've acquired.

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Posted by OldTrainFan on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 1:58 PM

Took these a few minutes ago. First is one half of the workbench I need to keep them on:

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Other half:

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This is a tanker I got from my buddy Mike Martin, he weathered it himself I believe.

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DCC GP38-2 I received for my birthday a year or two ago.

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An early patchwork attempt - unfortunately I couldn't run this on my old layout either way - motor refuses to work and I'm contemplating opening it up and seeing what's going on.

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EDIT: The red switcher in the back is another early attempt of mine - it came undecorated so I had to make do with what I had. Acrylic fire engine red paint doesn't translate too well. :P I also decided to start a weekend project to replace some of my old horn-hook locos - namely the Burlington Northern switcher.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 3:18 PM

Taylor, we've been back in school for a month as well. what I meant was there's about two weeks left in the actual season summer.

John, same here, I haven't seen him around here in a while

OldTrainFan, welcome man. love that BNSF loco! have you given any thoughts to a trackplan?

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Posted by OldTrainFan on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 4:20 PM

Packers#1

OldTrainFan, welcome man. love that BNSF loco! have you given any thoughts to a trackplan?

 

You're not the only one. It's the pride of my loco fleet! I'm currently working on a 5x9 U-shape layout with a lot of switching and a small yard. It's merely a matter of actually getting to work on clearing the room and beginning the benchwork.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 7:32 PM

I hear you man. I'm eventually going to get my dad to tell me about how much my planned new benchwork will cost. I'm hoping it won't be much, as that's the last thing that could kill this project.

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Posted by modelbnsfer on Thursday, September 9, 2010 8:26 PM

Hey Everyone,

Sawyer, oh well nevermind then, I miss summer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Old Train Fan, wlecomeWelcome

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, September 9, 2010 8:29 PM

modelbnsfer

Sawyer, oh well nevermind then, I miss summer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

same here. I don't enjoy learning lol, except for art class really. It's not so much the learning, jsut the stress and deadlines.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 10, 2010 1:10 PM

Tyler's been in California, riding PCC cars, the outside of cable cars, BART, and MUNI, photographing said excesses of railroad awesomeness, as well as railfanning in Jack London Square. Oh, and hiking in Yosemite, exploring San Francisco, and road-tripping through the Central Valley. Life is good. Big Smile

California was to my summer like running down a hill unable to stop until you slam gratefully into a big rock at the bottom. That's what my summer has felt like. The last few weeks of it were spent working four or five days a week (not so bad until you factor in my 2.5 hour commute each way) with the free days filled with other activities. But now that life is back to as normal as it ever gets, I can start working on my personal projects again including the WRS.

Recent WRS projects have included finishing Agrawal Paper and surrounding scenery in Enfield, rebuilding the lift bridge and reversing circuits, installing a new dedicated loco track in Lebanon Yard, and reworking my car-card and waybill operating system to include empty car orders, almost all of which you can read about on my blog.

Upcoming projects include getting started on the huge box of Supertrees on my floor (the largest value pack they have) as soon as I pick up a jug of matte medium, finishing the industrial section of West Canaan, most likely with Walthers' Magic Pan Bakeries, which will be called Claflin Foods. Of course one of the trailers parked outside will be BN. Cool Oh yeah, and some upcoming weekend from now Alex will be dropping off the WRS' latest power, a pair of GP15-1s, another GP18, and an SW9.

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Sawyer, about your staging yard:

Unless you only plan to EVER have 1 manifest train OR no through trains and have the local pick up cars from an interchange (knowing you, it'll be changed by the end of the week though! Wink ), I would highly recommend having at least two staging tracks, more if there's space.

When I was adding my staging yard, I built it to hold four trains, with runaround capabilities when one or less train was staged there. I thought I'd only need room to stage the manifest cars in Concord and White River Junction (both ends of the railroad) plus the single intermodal train, which needs the space to runaround it's train.

Now space in the yard is tight, since both the manifest and intermodal need to be able to run around their trains, which kills two and a half tracks for storage at those times. If you add a runaround track, keep in mind that whenever it's needed for that purpose, both tracks must be empty. This will really limit your car storage capabilities - all active cars need to be in the town or on that train.

My recommendation: I would either add more staging tracks (three preferably, with two double-ended) or if space is an issue, a runaround track and a cassette connection for shoving cars onto for storage. Even shoving cars onto a cassette hanging into space is more satisfying (and realistic) than picking them up by hand in the middle of a session. Trust me, it'll be worth it.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, September 10, 2010 2:57 PM

Tyler, I've updated the trackplan to include a passing siding in the back, so I can run the engines around the train. Refer to the summer TMRP for operations and how trains will be restaged etc. I could make the NS train a cassette, but then that's also the lead track for the interchange yard.

As to only one passing siding: The only train that will really need the run-around is the 1 train that will be 6 trains throughout the operations. The way freight could operate home as a push, which I could add an old caboose for a pushing platform at the town. and then I would have to stage the facing-point moves in front of the engine at the town. and now that leads to needing two push platforms maybe. and operations continue to grow for the CSRY

Soon I will hopefully be making a video explaining operations.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Friday, September 10, 2010 4:38 PM

here's the latest plan. My minor tweaks include:

  1. there is now a passing siding behind the backdrop. I can either (A) use this to stage two trains, or (B) use it to move the locos without them coming back onstage and also have the way freight pull onto this track.
  2. Swapped the turnout locations of the track off the main to the yard and the storage spur on front. now the whole yard can be worked from the NS interchange track.
  3. Because of two I was also able to add some length to the yard tracks.

I can have the Norfolk Southern either work from cassettes or just pull the loco and cars so I can run the whole track as the lead. After the beginning of the operating session, this train will not reappear.

The wayfreight will leave to the left and cross the bridge over the lake

If I go with a push platform for the wayfreight, I'd probably need to stage one or two cars ahead of the loco to simulate facing point moves. OR this though just hit me and I love it; I could say there is another turn out of a town further down the line to handle facing-point (for this train) moves, which would be trailing point moves for it. the track to the right could not have industries, or there would be another turn based out of the yard which can work both facing and trailing point spurs by either a double-ended way freight configuration, or better-yet I could have it pull into the yard in town while the way freight is out and run around its train to go back and work the facing-point switches. decisions, decisions. what do y'all think? Am I just crazy, or what? and another thought just hit me. I could do the same story for my dispatched way freight and it would show up as the turn based out of the yard, run around it's train, then return with the loco facing the correct way.

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Posted by modelbnsfer on Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:22 PM

Hey everyone,

I'm not ready for the week to start!Sad

Tyler , that sounds awesome, except for the drive thats crazy.

Sawyer, The new trackplan looks really nice. Once you build it I will trade you layouts.

Taylor

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Posted by IVRW on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:33 PM

Okay! I have the new website up! Please tell me what you think (or if it even works at all). The Bradley-Woodard Timber Co.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:40 PM

IVRW

Okay! I have the new website up! Please tell me what you think (or if it even works at all). The Bradley-Woodard Timber Co.

It works! There's a couple minor spelling errors/wrong word use, but my only concern - which is a personal choice, and nothing wrong with the website at all - is that you included a LOT of personal information. Unfortunately, there's a lot of creepy people on the internet. You might take a look at my About Me page on my website. I shared only what's relevant to the hobby, nothing about my work, education, etc. It's up to you of course, these are just my preferences for internet security.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:20 PM

Taylor, thanks man, but I think I'll stick with this layout. My problems now are benchwork, getting micro-engineering track, and acquiring components for wiring. my lofty start goal is november; odds are it will be as late as Spring 2011. My plan is also to acquire more locomotives while there are still killer deals out there.

John, site looks good, but I agree there's too much personal info. might jsut say you're a teen and mention only the state on your site.

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Posted by modelbnsfer on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:40 PM

Hey Everyone,

Tyler, I have decided that you deserve to be in MR. Just my My 2 Cents but i'm sure others would agree.

Sawyer, Are ya sure, my last offer, I would be happy to go to N scale for a nice finished layout that works. Smile

John, Really nice site but way to much personal info, those more then facebook asks you.(wouldn't know for sure, don't have one.

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Posted by IVRW on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:05 PM

Okay Guys, try the link now. I have changed the website according to your suggestions. Tell me if there are any other things I need to change or may I post it to the world on two different forums, two yahoo groups, and one website?

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Posted by modelbnsfer on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:33 PM

Hey John,

Alot better and safer and is still just as nicce!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:45 AM

Much better, John! I bookmarked the site so I can keep up to date as the layout progresses.

modelbnsfer

Tyler, I have decided that you deserve to be in MR. Just my My 2 Cents but i'm sure others would agree.

Hahaha thanks! I do plan on writing an article on my layout and submitting it to Model Railroader. I just need to get my Supertrees built and planted! Cool

 

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:54 PM

Taylor, I'm sure man.

Tyler, yesir you deserve to be in MR

I haven't edited my webpage in forever, I'm planning on something new whenever I get around to it, something much more radical. probably

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Posted by modelbnsfer on Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:50 PM

Hey Everyone,

Tyler, You better start making those trees because my subscripition is up in may 2011 and who knows what the World will be like then! LOL JK

Sawyer, fine I guess i will stay with my own layout that is horrendeous, wish I could restart but no way right now.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:58 PM

Tyler, whenever my next long weekend is we should have a work session for tree making, quarry building, etcetera. It'll also be fun to run some GP15s. Big Smile

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 17, 2010 9:08 AM

Shoot me an email to let me know when that is. Many of my upcoming weekends are empty.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:02 AM

Taylor, hey, just keep working on it, your skills will improve and as they do go back and improve the old sections to reflect your new skills and continue building them.

Well today's plan:

  1. NASCAR Whelen Modified Race at 1
  2. MRN Article after the race (hopefully I'll be buying a Rockstar so I'll focus hehe)
  3. Homework more than likely

I've pretty much relegated myself to the armchair modeler/collector for the time being. I'm pushing back my projected start date for the new layout. I do believe I will begin work on another photography diorama. there are a couple of pics on railpcitures.net that really caught my eye.

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Posted by ns3010 on Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:52 PM

Hey guys, finally made it back.

After I got my computer back, my internet stopped working, so I couldn't get on for a few days. But I'm getting a new computer in the very near future, so that should help!

Here's what's going on on the model railroading front:
1. Today was my last day of work. I've been waitering for the past several weeks, so I've been making more money, which means I can finally buy stuff. But today was our last day for the year (we closed at 3), so that'll free up some time (although I'm going to Wildwood next week, and I'm hoping to begin my Eagle Project in October, so there goes my weekends for the next month).

2. If I can find time this week, my dad and I can cut the first sheet of plywood. If time allows, maybe we could also run to Lowes and get a second sheet and some foam.

3. Thursday night, I placed an order for some stuff from Island Model Works (FINALLY!). I bought a PL42AC shell (to go with the drive I'm getting for Christmas), PL42AC decals, and 3 sets of Comet V decals (don't have the shells yet, though). I went big on the decals because their license expires in a few weeks, and IMW will not be renewing it, so it is the last chance. Don't know when the stuff will come; depends on if Joe has any of the PL42 shells cast already (it's a small company, so most of his castings are done as needed).

4. Next up will be roadbed and track. I will need a lot, so I will have to buy a bit at a time. My IMW order cost about a hundred bucks, and I'm hoping to attend the Mass Transit Modelers show in October, so the first order of track will have to be small. If I can get enough to get the main loop up and running, I'll be happy.


Well, I've gotta do homework, so I'll catch you guys later!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:00 PM

Joe, glad you're back man! sounds like the layout will be begun shortly!

I got my article for MRN written today (lord I love monster energy drinks :D ). Check out the November and December issues for a lot of detail about my upcoming layout.

Speaking of which.....

plans continue to change. No, not on the design, but about the CSRY and also construction dates. I'm guessing sometime in February or March I'll begin the new layout. If I have to bet march, since rugby season ends at the end of march. Until then I'm basically collecting and saving for the new layout.

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