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MTH 2-8-4 Berkshire #2

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 8:18 PM

 Now the couplers. Here's what I found

The coupler box that included for the tender will not fit a Kadee # 5. It will fit a #48?  Whisker coupler. I think that's the equivalent number.  I don't have any 48's on hand so I substituted the coupler box with one of the one's included with the #5's


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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 8:16 PM

 Here's a close up of the spare driver without traction tires. 


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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 8:14 PM

 

Bdewoody

There is a free photo editing program called Irfanview that allows you to resize digital photos before uploading them to photobucket which makes the task faster and uses up less of your free photobucket space.  The resizing does not degrade image quality and it makes viewing easier for the rest of us.

Thanks

I have the ability to re-size in photo shop.  The originals were 22 meg.  The size you see aren't 2 meg. I upload them that size for storage since I have a Photobucket Pro account. If you note the size you see it's much smaller.  You do have the ability to download the full size if you ever wanted to.

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 8:12 PM

 The next 2 pics are the underside of the tender. A couple of things to note.

1.  The electrical pick-up is massive and should be more than reliable. I couldn't see the pick-up of the loco without opening it up.

2.  There is a single speaker.  I don't know the size but looks like about an inch in diameter.

EDIT" After reviewing the pics I see I missed one speaker under the truck.  There are 2 there: 

 

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Posted by Bdewoody on Monday, June 21, 2010 8:11 PM

There is a free photo editing program called Irfanview that allows you to resize digital photos before uploading them to photobucket which makes the task faster and uses up less of your free photobucket space.  The resizing does not degrade image quality and it makes viewing easier for the rest of us.

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 8:09 PM

 Tender Rear View.  Note the marker lights.  You'll see them working shortly


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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 8:08 PM

 Side View of the Tender:

IMO the coal load looks fantastic:

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 8:07 PM

 The Next Pics will be of the Tender. Since I noted the Draw Bar here's the tender end. Note how the 2 halves are separated to mate with the 2 Draw Bar Conductors:

 

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 8:04 PM

 The next couple of pics are centered on the Draw bar.  The unique thing about the drawbar is that it passes data between the Loco and tender.  There is NO interconnect cable between the 2.  Note the electrical connections inside the hole of the Draw Bar.  To the touch it seems a bit flimsy but I'm sure it's plenty strong. I think it's a great idea and the time to hook the Loco to the Tender is just a couple of seconds.  This is something MTH should be bragging about.  I will be looking into picking up a spare for sure though.

 

 

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 8:00 PM

 Rear View of the Fire Box:

 

And Cab with Engineer:

Here's The LED board for the Cab Light. (Yes the cab light works)

 

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 7:58 PM

 Here's a shot of the belly:

And the Top:


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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 7:57 PM

 Left Side

 

Right Side:

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 7:54 PM

 A couple of pics of the front of the loco with a couple of close ups of the Number boards:

This loco has very nice detail and looks great IMO


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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 7:49 PM

 Besides the Manuals and packing here is what you get out of the box.  One Berkshire Loco with Tender, a spare driver without traction band, A wrench to remove the drive rods, and a pair of couplers. It's kind of sad but common these days.  Here we have a 400 buck loco and the couplers are not pre-installed.  Not only are they not installed, they're Plastic junk.  Note to MTH: You know we're going to change the couplers to kadee anyhow, so why not just supply them? The pair in the picture are now in the trash.

Also note that I was surprised by the weight of the pair. The tender feels very heavy and almost as much so as the Loco.  I don't have a scale to weigh them with but definitely a weapon if you need one in a hurry Big Smile


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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 7:41 PM

 I finally got the loco running and so far am liking what I see.  I took about 50 pics along the way of which about 25 I kept.  I probably wont be able to finish tonight but here's some of the things I noted along the way. Edit (waiting for photobucket to finish the upload.  Each pic is about 2 meg in size)

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Posted by rjake4454 on Monday, June 21, 2010 4:09 PM

Hamltnblue

 Thanks.

Reading through the manual I do find something interesting.   There isn't a cable to connect the Loco to the tender. Data is passed through the drawbar through 2 conductors.  If it works well, I'd say it would be an improvement over my Blueline and Paragon 2 connectors which I've had issues with in the past. 

Yes, the wireless tether is indeed one major positive to MTH products that I had completely forgotten about, I would agree its a vast improvement over the Broadway connectors and saved me a lot of hassle and frustration, especially when I wanted to pack up the loco and bring it over someone else's place. The wireless tethers on Lionel's scale line of O gauge steam engines have always been amazing, and MTH seems to have transferred this technology to a smaller scale absolutely flawlessly. I'm actually a little surprised that Broadway hasn't employed these on the new Paragon 2 locos considering Lionel was the first to use them and Bob Grubba is originally from that company.

 

 

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, June 21, 2010 4:05 PM

Hamltnblue
I agree totally about the DCS but my main issues have been lack of Advance consist and not being able to control individual sounds.

 

 I wonder if Decoder Pro could read and write the CV's (if they are called that in DCS). 

 Looking forward to your review Blue.

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 3:56 PM

 Thanks.

Reading through the manual I do find something interesting.   There isn't a cable to connect the Loco to the tender. Data is passed through the drawbar through 2 conductors.  If it works well, I'd say it would be an improvement over my Blueline and Paragon 2 connectors which I've had issues with in the past. 

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Posted by rjake4454 on Monday, June 21, 2010 3:39 PM

Hamltnblue

Good Afternoon

After doing some more reading I decided to go ahead and pick one up today.

Looks like they ship without couplers so I'll have to get around to installing them before giving it a run.

Thats the one thing that drove me crazy about those engines lol, I put down $400 for each engine and both times they came without the right screws to install the couplers! Angry

Well, it looks like a beautiful engine you got there, I hope it works out.

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 3:19 PM

 I agree totally about the DCS but my main issues have been lack of Advance consist and not being able to control individual sounds. I don't plan on consisting steamers so the first is not an issue.  I see how the sound issue goes but the loco is a beauty.  I'll post plenty of pics when I get it running.

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, June 21, 2010 3:12 PM

  Blue, let us know what you think and some pictures as well. I still don't like the Mike makes only DCS decoders, but his trains are starting to get a some what of good rep.

 

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MTH 2-8-4 Berkshire #2
Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, June 21, 2010 2:56 PM

Good Afternoon

After doing some more reading I decided to go ahead and pick one up today.

Looks like they ship without couplers so I'll have to get around to installing them before giving it a run. Guess it saves the time uninstalling and replacing with Number 5's. 

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