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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 8:18 PM
An SP&S 4-6-6-4 would be really cool. It wouldn't be very hard to do that and an NP Challenger. NP's and SP&S's Challengers were nearly identical, only the SP&S ones were oil burners. A Rio Grande Baldwin Challenger would be cool too.
As for smaller steamers, a good looking 4-6-2 would be welcome (i.e. Southern Ps4, or a Southern Pacific 4-6-2), as would some road specific 2-8-2s (oh BLI![:)])
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Posted by twhite on Friday, July 16, 2004 7:42 PM
Neat topic, was waiting for someone to hit this. I'd like to see about five in plastic, preferably with sound, which means either Athearn, Lionel or BLI, unless either Proto or Spectrum gets on the bandwagon. How about one of those incredible Missabe Range M-series 2-8-8-4's, especially with the big Elesco feedwater heaters (Akane made a beauty back in the early '60's, only with Elesco, I've got two and they pull anything I choose to put behind them). Or one of those gorgeous NP Z-8 or Rio Grande L-105 4-6-6-4's (don't we have ENOUGH UP 3800's, now?) or a Rio Grande L-131-32 2-8-8-2, or an Espee AC-6 4-8-8-2 (flat-faced but as different from an AC-5 as a Mountain from a Mikado), and either a WP or GN 2-8-8-2. I could go on for quite a while, but I'd like to see more specific and less generic USRA or N&W/UP articulateds on the market. And yes, I think there's a market for these other locos. Seriously, folks,. the NEW STEAM from major manufacturers is SUPER! Every bit as dependable as diesels, and a lot more fun, since with steam, you get to see all the guts hanging out, so to speak. And frankly speaking, the double articulation being used these days with the new Articulateds isn't as noticeable as I was afraid it would be, especially on the average model railroad curves. I LIKE these new locos, what we need to do is convince manufacturers that there IS a market out there for the 'other' articulateds. BLI for one, seems to be open, they're producing models of prototype steam that for decades, was only touched by the brass importers. Maybe the other major companies will take a look. There's always hope!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 3:23 PM
OK I'm going to jump in here and say that if we're going for smaller steamers, then I'd like to see these two:

NP W-3 2-8-2
D&SL 2-8-2 (not sure of the class on this one, but I would like the one that has the Coffin feedwater heater on the smokebox front)
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 1:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tpaulsen

Someone already put up the Sierra 2-6-6-2. I would like to find, on my dealers shelves, a D&SL 2-6-6-0. I have one of the brass PFM imports. Beautiful engine, good proportions, small enough to look right on a model railroad. Like to see one done properly in plastic, or even a composite diecast/plastic version.

[#ditto] .... Fantastic engine. I just really love it. I can't justify spending $450+ for an ancient brass engine with an open frame motor off eBay otherwise I'd already have one![:D] If P2K, Spectrum or BLI did one of these it would be fantastic.

A logging engine like the Sierra 2-6-6-2 (OK - I know it wasn't actually a logger on the Sierra but it went on to work on logging roads) or the 2-6-6-2T pictured in EL PARRo's post would also be great.
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Posted by nfmisso on Friday, July 16, 2004 12:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

what medium sized steamers do you think have selling potential?


N&W M2 4-8-0
N&W M 4-8-0
N&W W2 2-8-0
N&W E2 4-6-2
any 8 coupled 56/57" drivered locomotive (2-8-0, 2-8-2, 4-8-0)

Small, rather than medium by USA standards.
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Posted by nfmisso on Friday, July 16, 2004 12:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bill mathewson

The other is the Little River RR (in Tenn) 2-4-4-2, the only standard gauge articulated of its type ever sold to an American railroad. It was also available in brass and imported by Oriental Ltd as part of their 'Powerhouse' series, if I remember correctly. It was just darn cute !

GEM imported a decade or so before the Oriental Powerhouse (built by Samhongsa) version. Both show up from time to time on ebay. The Oriental one runs like a Kato diesel.
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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:30 PM
Okay CP-Gordon, what medium sized steamers do you think have selling potential?

A few I think.......

USRA 4-6-2B
Southern Ps-4 4-6-2
CP Royal 4-6-4
Great Northern 0-8 2-8-2
NYC L4 4-8-2

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Posted by aussiesteve on Monday, June 28, 2004 5:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by aussiesteve

I'd like to see an Australian AD60 garret 4-8-4+4-8-4, you yanks have way too many of your style articulateds available already.[:D]


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Posted by aussiesteve on Monday, June 28, 2004 12:53 AM
I'd like to see an Australian AD60 garret 4-8-4+4-8-4, you yanks have way too many of your style articulateds available already.[:D]
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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:46 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CP5415

I'd rather see a series of smaller steam locomotives produced.
There's nothing wrong with Hudsons & Pacific's racing around in HO scale.
I'd just like to see more of them. Big steam locomotives don't really look that great on a 9x12 layout.
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Aside from the USRA medium sized steamers, I think the problem is there aren' t too many that clearly stand out. Sure Pennsy's K4 and NYC J1e are done, but what else?

I assume a USRA 4-6-2B would be welcomed.

PS--My benchwork is almost finished and from what I see, a big articulated looks just fine here. [;)]

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Posted by CP5415 on Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:56 PM
I'd rather see a series of smaller steam locomotives produced.
There's nothing wrong with Hudsons & Pacific's racing around in HO scale.
I'd just like to see more of them. Big steam locomotives don't really look that great on a 9x12 layout.
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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy

Other: none! We already have WAY too many articulateds available in HO plastic!


NOOOOOOOOOOO! There will never be enough articulateds! [:D]

QUOTE: ....but we've got our choice of over 15 different articulateds!


The crap Rivarossi's don't count!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:15 AM
A WM M2 4-6-6-4 would be really cool. Baldwin Challengers rock! (hmmm, me, 4884bigboy, wanting a Northeastern locomotive?..........made by Baldwin?...........maybe I'm going soft)....................
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Posted by orsonroy on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:47 AM
Other: none! We already have WAY too many articulateds available in HO plastic! How about some engines that REALLY ran around on American railroads (and Canadian), and which will fit onto the average layout! There's only two mikados available in plastic (both USRA versions), but we've got our choice of over 15 different articulateds!

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Posted by Fergmiester on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 7:39 PM
THough I voted for a NP Z6 a Missabe Iron Range 2-8-8-4 was also a mighty fine loco

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:59 PM
I would not really like to see any of these. I would rather have some layout sized, obscure steamers and diesels. This is just my opinion, but I really do not like big steam.
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Posted by AggroJones on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:30 PM
After the AC-12, I would have picked the D&RGW L-105 or NP Z-5. There's not much cooler than a single MASSIVE articulated steamer hauling an endless string of freight cars at low speed.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 19, 2004 3:10 AM
tpaulsen already mentioned one of the engines on my wishlist - the D&SL 2-6-6-0. I also remember the PFM brass version some years back, and that was one of the few brass engines I ever seriously thought about buying. Wish I had in retrospect. The other is the Little River RR (in Tenn) 2-4-4-2, the only standard gauge articulated of its type ever sold to an American railroad. It was also available in brass and imported by Oriental Ltd as part of their 'Powerhouse' series, if I remember correctly. It was just darn cute !
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Posted by Vampire on Saturday, June 19, 2004 2:35 AM
I want a B&O EM-1 myself, especially if it has sound. Might have to get a few of 'em!

Maybe someday BLI or Lionel will produce one... between lawsuits that is.
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Posted by sparkingbolt on Saturday, June 19, 2004 1:09 AM
I know the cab forwards are kinda the SP signature loco, But the '9's just look better, more graceful but also more majestic IMHO.

The problem is what place does such a monster have on a layout where about 14 car trains are the max? Dan
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Posted by philnrunt on Saturday, June 19, 2004 12:40 AM
The Yellowstone is just a fine looking powerhouse, with 150 ore jennies behind it, now that's railroading UP (nooo nooo, Upper Peninsula) style.
Style being the key word.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 19, 2004 12:19 AM
I'm all there for a UP 2-8-8-0 in 2 versions of course.. complex and simple!!!

A logger by spectrum would kick butt. I have two mantua loggers, one 1984 vintage that is still awesome and one I got used.. that needs some serious work.. I'm always game for more articulated power! The Proto Y3 is my biggest thus far.. though i'd LOVE a trix big boy!

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Posted by EL PARRo on Friday, June 18, 2004 9:47 PM
Other than the UP 2-8-8-0, I'd also like to see a 2-6-6-2T logging locomotive. I know that Mantua makes one, but I want a higher qualtity one. *cough*Spectrum*cough*

Here's a picture of a 2-6-6-2T that I'd like to have a model of:


Here's a link to a larger picture if you want to see it better.
http://www.steaminthewoods.com/ArcataandMadRiver12_2662_inTransit_EurekaCA_75700_copy.jpg
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Posted by nfmisso on Friday, June 18, 2004 8:33 PM
N&W Y5 or Y6/Y6a, rather than the Y6b.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 18, 2004 8:18 PM
Someone already put up the Sierra 2-6-6-2. I would like to find, on my dealers shelves, a D&SL 2-6-6-0. I have one of the brass PFM imports. Beautiful engine, good proportions, small enough to look right on a model railroad. Like to see one done properly in plastic, or even a composite diecast/plastic version.

Steam forever.

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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Friday, June 18, 2004 7:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mainecentral229

I think an Erie Triplex would look pretty interesting pulling a massive HO consist, not to mention, it would probably run better than it's prototype[;)]


That would be cool too! I have only seen the O scale version of the Erie Triplex. I have never seen a model of the Virginian Triplex. It would be nice to see a HO model of each, because the Virginian had one more axle than the Erie. (2-8-8-8-2 Erie, 2-8-8-8-4 Virginian).

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 18, 2004 7:53 PM
hi sp AC-9 2-8-8-4 is the one
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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Friday, June 18, 2004 7:51 PM
I would like to see Great Northern's 2-6-8-0, and Virginian's 2-10-10-2. Nice locomotives they are!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 18, 2004 7:03 PM
Delaware & Hudson Challenger
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 18, 2004 6:57 PM
Sierra 2-6-6-2....Not the Mantua, but something along the lines of the premium plastic.

Guy

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