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What is are fascination with large enginies?

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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:14 PM
My biggest locomotives is a Rossi C&O Allegheny.This I use at the club on all steam night.[8D][:D] I have 1 SD7 and 1 SD9 both are P2Ks Chessie(B&O) units..[:D] Oddly or perhaps strangely enough I am not a big fan of 6 axle units.

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Posted by fiatfan on Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:20 PM
For me, it's the thought that one person can control that much power.

I would love to have the room to run the really big stuff but for now the the largest I can realistically run is an E8 and that's almost too big. Most of my enigines are Geeps, F's, and SD9s with a couple of SWs thrown in for yard duty.

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Posted by jabrown1971 on Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:41 PM
My biggest locomotive is my UP, yes I admit to owning one, SD 60 from eons ago. I don't run it much, cause it doesn't fit in with the rest of my stuff. The biggest one I use regular is my Atlas SD35 N & W of course, but my best runner is my 25 year old Auto Train U-Boat.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:58 PM
Well they are just plain cool! Yes a truly lame answer. I think it is natural.. and while I find a small 0-6-0 or SW-1 to be cool and lots of fun there is just something amazing about watching a 2-8-8-2 in motion or watching an FEF3 or GS4 struting their stuff.

My largest.. 2 FEF3's, 1 GS4 and a UP Y3 2-8-8-2. but I love my 44 tonners, and switchers just as much.
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Posted by Roadtrp on Friday, June 18, 2004 12:04 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Railroading_Brit

My largest single unit is an Athearn DD40.


I'm familiar with 40DD's, and they certainly are large ones. But what is a DD40?

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Posted by dharmon on Friday, June 18, 2004 12:06 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Roadtrp

QUOTE: Originally posted by Railroading_Brit

My largest single unit is an Athearn DD40.


I'm familiar with 40DD's, and they certainly are large ones. But what is a DD40?

[:D][;)][}:)][;)][:D]


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Posted by dave9999 on Friday, June 18, 2004 12:28 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by Roadtrp

QUOTE: Originally posted by Railroading_Brit

My largest single unit is an Athearn DD40.


I'm familiar with 40DD's, and they certainly are large ones. But what is a DD40?

[:D][;)][}:)][;)][:D]


Two SERIOUS grades to climb[;)]


Oh yeah, but once you've reached the summit.......[:p]
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Posted by dharmon on Friday, June 18, 2004 12:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by Roadtrp

QUOTE: Originally posted by Railroading_Brit

My largest single unit is an Athearn DD40.


I'm familiar with 40DD's, and they certainly are large ones. But what is a DD40?

[:D][;)][}:)][;)][:D]


Two SERIOUS grades to climb[;)]


Oh yeah, but once you've reached the summit.......[:p]


It's all dynamic braking from then on......which requires a large locomotive.....
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Posted by Roadtrp on Friday, June 18, 2004 1:09 AM
I've always believed in the large locomotive myself. But I've heard that little switchers can do the job too if manuevered properly. [:D]
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Posted by philnrunt on Friday, June 18, 2004 2:23 AM
As usual, I'm in the minority. I like 'em small, twisting and switching their way thru steel mills, refinerys, alleys and weed overgrown tracks in backyards. My first cab ride was in a SW-1, and tho it looked WAY big to me then, I must have realized it was'nt nearly as big as the other engines of the time. Thats for modeling.
As for watching, SD's, C630's and Challengers and Alleghenys are GREAT! Huge power, two thin steel rails, it all adds up to barely controlled power. Oh, and turbines- the louder the better.
As for SUV's- Jeep CJ's TJ's, YJ's and ZJ's and Toy FJ's will out do any of the monsters off road, where it really matters.
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Posted by pedromorgan on Friday, June 18, 2004 6:45 AM
bigger is better!
it's a man thing!

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Posted by Jetrock on Friday, June 18, 2004 7:27 AM
I'll take your word for it...last time I checked I was male, but still feel no need to own articulated engines.

I must admit a fondness for streamlined engines--the T-1 is a particular favorite--but I like the design more than the size...it's almost regrettable that there weren't very many small streamlined engines, although the Burlington Zephyr is surprisingly tiny when seen in person.
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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:59 PM
Larger locomotives tend to be more powerful. And I think power is the issue. Massive, raw, strong machines. The more powerful, the better. Thats why I'm so drawn to articulated steam. SP AC-12s, DM&IR M-4, C&O H-8, DRGW L-131, NP Z-8, N&W A class, UP BigBoys, SKF Challengers, etc.

More weight. More girth. More strength. More moving parts.

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Posted by Roadtrp on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:26 PM
I don't have that big a thing for large locomotives, but I certainly do appreciate a well maintained female caboose.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 10:22 PM
My largest engine is a sd 45. I couldn't get a larger one in the railroad I model, and it wouldn't make it through my switches anyway.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:31 PM
Hmmm, 3 Heislers, 2 Shays, 2 Climaxes, an assortment of 4-4-0's and a couple of 0-8-0 switchers that dwarf them all.
I still feel manly.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 17, 2004 10:23 PM
Why do I like SD90MACs and AC4400CWs? To quote my daughter: "They're gnarly!"

Which, of course, begs the question "what does 'gnarly' mean?" Well, if you don't know then you'd probably be happy having Shays and Heislers.
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Posted by Jetrock on Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:02 PM
I find Shays and Heislers to be totally gnarly, but not quite as bitchin' as a narrow-gauge 0-4-0 Porter winding its way through logging roads...I like steam too, I just like 'em small: if you like lots of mechanical motion, imagine a Shay thrashing at full steam at 8-10 miles an hour pulling huge logs up impossible grades. Those big steamers are fine for pulling straight on heavy-duty track, but they'll never be able to wind their way up mountainsides on roadbed made from old logs and hastily-laid 40-pound rail that looks like two strips of solid rust!

Scale is a matter of degree. Even a 44-ton switcher looks pretty big when you're standing next to it, and even my favorite slim-gauge 0-4-0 weighs in at about eight tons!

I think small engines are just fun to look at--there is a 25-ton GE switcher here in town that I sneak a peek at every chance I get in a local scrapyard (it's their industrial yard goat)!

I don't buy the "guy thing" argument myself, since, well, I am a guy. Then again, I tend to not care much about "big stuff" otherwise--I drive a Volvo station wagon and my favorite power tool is my Dremel.
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Posted by on30francisco on Sunday, September 12, 2004 6:37 PM
The largest engine I have is an On30 Bachmann Mogul (2-6-0). I like all steam engines both large and small in all gauges. I find smaller locos more versitile especially in narrow gauge because they can negotiate sharp curves.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:48 PM
Wife tells me its a simple case of "piston envy "![(-D]


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Posted by markpierce on Monday, September 13, 2004 12:11 AM
Large locomotives were usually the "signature" motive power for a railroad. For instance, if modeling the Southern Pacific near the end of external combustion locomotion, one would want some cab-forwards (usually 4-8-8-2s), decks (2-10-2s) and GSs (4-8-4s), in addition to the hogs (2-8-0s) and "mountain mallets" (2-6-0s), to get an S.P. feel.
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Posted by markpierce on Monday, September 13, 2004 12:41 AM
Oops. I meant "valley mallets" when referring to S.P. moguls.
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Posted by twhite on Monday, September 13, 2004 2:59 PM
I grew up in Truckee, CA during the reign of the SP Cab-forwards, so I've always been attracted to big steam, particularly artliculateds. On my own model RR, I've got several classes of SP AC's, plus 2 Missabe Yellowstones, a Rio Grande L-131 2-8-8-2, 2 Rio Grande L-105 4-6-6-4's, a Rio Grande L-106 2-8-8-2, and just because I think they're neat, a C&O 2-6-6-6 and an N&W 2-6-6-4. AND, a couple of smaller articulateds (2-6-6-0, 2-6-6-2). And if anyone like BLI or Proto decides to come out with an NP Z-6 4-6-6-4, I'll be running out to get that, too. It's the girth, heft, weight and just LOOK of those things. They mean BUSINESS!
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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:31 AM
As the objectives of American advertising we have been brainwashed from birth with the idea that Bigger is Better, whether it be candy bars, container ships or anything in between. Also, during the brass era, HO was inundated with articulated steam centipedes to the virtual exclusion of ordinary 'flatlander' motive power. Now, even though there are plenty of short-framed Bo-Bo diesels in service, all of the emphasis in advertising seems to be on Co-Co units the size of auto rack cars.

I, personally, like certain specific locomotives, large and small, for specific, personal reasons. On the large end, the N&W's big 3, the NYC S-1a, the PRR GG-1 and the D&H 4-8-4 and challenger - all locomotives which I saw (and heard) in action. On the small end, the 18-ton 2-cylinder Shays of the 30 inch gauge Alishan Forestry Railroad (Taiwan,) and the cyclone-stacked Baldwin 0-4-2T's of the Kiso Forest Railway (Japan.) I have other favorite locos between these extremes, but very few of them are diesels.

Incidentally, the Kiso loco at the CSRM was originally 30 inch gauge but was widened to 36 inches.

What do I operate? 2-8-2's and smaller steam, because that's what my prototype operated. Also a variety of catenary motors and three classes of diesels, none of them large (even for 42 inch gauge.)

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Posted by wairoa on Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:16 AM
I like big and small. I too have a Big Boy but I also have a Plymouth switcher. For me it is comparing the big and small. Size is not the only thing that appeals to me about trains. Speed and power is also impressive hence my examples of the German ICE, British Mallard and various high power European electric locomotives.
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Posted by k41361 on Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:49 AM
If you had a little 2-6-0 coming from the west and a Big Boy coming from the east and you had ten people witnessing this event,I'll give you one guess where 10 sets of eyes are going to look.
I love steam.My smallest is the Bachmann Climax that I really like.My largest is a BLI PRR J1 that I really like.Can't wait for someone to come out with a B&O EM1 and a good Heisler.

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Posted by modelalaska on Sunday, March 26, 2006 12:03 PM
Ah, one of the reasons I got back into the hobby(last year) was while I was walking, a consist of SD70Macs hauling a long gravel train powered up just 40 feet away from me and I could just feel the power... very cool. Then I found out I could have those very same engines running about a scene in my basement. Now I have a pair of Kato Macs (n-scale) pulling eight coal cars. Cool.
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Posted by jecorbett on Sunday, March 26, 2006 5:07 PM
If you model a class 1 railroad in the final years of steam which is what I do, it is only natural you are going to run large locos since those are what was prevalent. The smaller power was largely relagated to the branchlines. My diesels are first generation so they do not fall into the large category. Whether you are a prototype or freelancer, the type of railroad and era dictate your motive power.

The question I see come up from time to time that baffles me is when someone wants to know how small a radius you can run a Big Boy or some other giant on. If your layout has 18" or 22" radius curves, you probably have a small layout which means you are running short trains. Why would you want to put any articulated on the front end of it. Of course we are all free to make whatever choices we want regarding our layouts but it seems to me your locos should fit your situation.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:32 PM
simple- POWER a single engine that can move 100+ cars is simply amazing. I can never have enough HP, whether it be a lawn mower, truck, ect. I like POWER. But I like smaller stuff too- after all, you can't do switching with a 4-8-8-4 (well, you could, but...) on the other hand, a 2-6-0 might be well-suited to switching.

One of the reasons I like CGW is they ran lotsa F units to pull LONG trains.. I've seen a pic of an ABBBBBBA lashup.
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Posted by reklein on Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:40 PM
If you have a small layout and like big engines, just have the big engine coming out of a tunnel with a few cars behind and park it there for a couple days. Just like the foldouts in MR.
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