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How do you make a swamp

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How do you make a swamp
Posted by pls12 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 6:03 AM

I would like to make a swamp in HO scale

I would like to have reeds, cattails and bushes

There are no kits so need to make all from scratch

Any help or pictures

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Posted by Driline on Saturday, May 8, 2010 6:30 AM

 Scenic Express has everything you need. Ask for their catalog and order from them online direct. I have several times and have been very pleased.


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Posted by jerryl on Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:06 AM

 MANY articles on swamp making in MRR & RMC over the past few years.

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Posted by jerryl on Saturday, May 8, 2010 9:16 AM

 Just a few hints, I used thin wire, .010 or smaller painted green & dipped the ends in white glue to make cat tails. Dip & allow to dry until you build up enough to make it look like a cat tail, then paint brown. To make lily pads, use a hole punch & punch pcs. from green paper or dried flower leaves & cut a V notch in them. Try to get a few different sizes ov punches if you can. Light brown or green raffia, bought at a craft shop, can be cut to represent reeds.   Jerry

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Posted by ARTHILL on Saturday, May 8, 2010 10:13 AM
I did cat tails with that plastic clay you bake in the oven. The brown parts are just the brown clay on a piece of wire. The leaves I made out of the green clay. I rolled out a disk about the right profile and then sliced off thin strips the size and shape of the leaves. They stick together easily and then I stuck the wires in holes in a board and baked them. They then went into the swamp. I did bullrushes the same way and did the tall grass with WS grass. I put the water in last. There are some pics of all that in my sig, but I have never bunched them all together. I used scraps of Super trees for the brush. My one piece of advice, put in more than you think you need. Real swamps are way more crowded than I thought.
If you think you have it right, your standards are too low. my photos http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/ARTHILL/ Art
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Posted by Sid1425 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:24 PM

"Basic Scenery for Model Railroaders" by Lou Sassi  (Kalmbach Pub.) has a fine, detailed chapter on this subject.

Sid

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:50 PM

I started with a bare section of pink foamboard.  First, I scored the area to be removed with a utility knife, and then I scooped that part out with a big spoon.

Next, I used plaster cloth to cover the whole "water" space.  Here, I've placed a big dead tree (Woodland Scenics) as an orientation marker, and some small Hydrocal rock castings that will become part of the scenery.

Next, I skim-coated the whole swamp with Gypsolite, a gritty plaster.  It's normally gray, so I added brown craft paint to tint it brown.  In this picture, I've started to paint the lowest depths black.

I did a lot more painting, using a wide variety of acrylic paints and washes to get a varied, non-uniform color pattern across the swamp.  I started adding ground foam around the edges, too.

The next step was to start pouring Envirotex Lite for the water.  For the first 2 pours shown here, I added brown and green craft paint to the Envirotex before pouring.  This gives a murky, translucent look to the lower layers, enhancing the image of depth and making the bottom look cloudy.  There are also some plants here, cattails and other from Walthers Botanicals.  I used a pot topper (a craft store item) around the edges, and for the interior of what will be the world's largest beaver dam.  The white rectanges are small pieces of styrene used to dam a couple of higher gullys so the Envirotex doesn't flow down out of them before it sets.

This is a closer look at some of the greenery.  I've put some tall field grass in here.  If you look at the small rocks, Woodland Scenics talus, you can get some idea of how the tinted Envirotex makes the water look cloudy and murky as it gets deeper, while still looking like water.

Musket Minatures makes the cow moose and the beavers from this photo.  The swimming beaver was trimmed down to be a "waterline beaver" with a flat base, glued to the next-to-the-last layer of Envirotex, and then the final level of Envirotex was poured around him so he appears to be swimming almost submerged.

I added a wide variety of trees, some store-bought and some home-made, lots of twigs from the back yard, and the swamp was pretty much done.

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Posted by cowman on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:15 PM

If you are looking to buy swamp plants, Busch, JTT, Noch, Walthers Botanicals (all in the Feb Walthers flyer) and others are available.  You can also do make your own or mix the two methods.

Good luck,

Richard

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Posted by Railphotog on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:40 PM

A small swampy area on my HO scale modules:

 

 

 

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Posted by G Paine on Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:32 AM

A couple of comments about Envirotex Lite or Water Magic (which I use).

First, these products will find any small hole in the bottom of your swamp and leak out. Check the area carefully before you pour. For a large area, the Water Magic site suggests painting a thin first coat and let it set up. This will seal any pin holes

Second, test the color you want to add before you pour. Some colors are more dense than others. I use Floquil solvent paints. I have used Roof Brown, Grimey Black (industrial area) and some greens with good luck; but when I tried a blue, the color was way too intense. All it takes is a drop or two of paint to tint the clear resin..

Last, your first pour will probably be absorbed into nearby ground foam products. It will make then hard & shiney. After the last pour, you can add a bit more ground foam or paint over the shiney parts with Dullcote

George In Midcoast Maine, 'bout halfway up the Rockland branch 

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