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Posted by IVRW on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:24 PM
Sawyer, looking real nice. The second house is so interesting. Who is it from? Kit or ready made?

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:34 PM

IVRW
Sawyer, looking real nice. The second house is so interesting. Who is it from? Kit or ready made?

 

which one? The white is the ever-present bachmann farmhouse that I've weathered a tad. the Blue house is a Model Power built-up that I've broken several times. the porch has been reglued, and I added a back porch out of poured concrete. I also added the bushes all around the base. There will be two more houses, a restaurant, another DPM kit, and a depot on the layout; as to the kits etc, I'll find out when I buy them, though I've got a pretty good idea of what kits will go where.

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Posted by IVRW on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:52 PM
The little Bachman Farmhouse. I've actually never seen one before. I actually have the same Model Power house for my layout, only a scale bigger. But anyway, nice job!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 5:08 PM

IVRW
The little Bachman Farmhouse. I've actually never seen one before. I actually have the same Model Power house for my layout, only a scale bigger. But anyway, nice job!

 

thanks. All I've done to the b-mann farmhouse is a gray wash, messin up the porch railings a bit and some sandpaper to the roof; everything else came with it. I'm pretty sure almost every n scale farmhouse has one to be found

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:49 PM

Way to go for ripping up track with a week to go before an operating session! But that one curve that's been giving me trouble for months is FIXED! It had reached that point where it was just easier to rip it up and lay new track than to try in vain to repair it. My Impacks are still tracking poorly and there are a few track bugs left, I'm sure, but everything else is ready for the session on Saturday! I'm going to try liberal use of the truck tuner on the Impacks, and if that doesn't fix it then I'm buying metal wheels!

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:04 PM

Truck tuners are only going to help thinks out if the axle doesn't spin freely in the truck. I don't remember the full story on the Impacks, but if I remember correctly they are underweight and you couldn't find space to add any. If that is the case, metal wheels will certainly add weight to the car and make them track better.

Not to mention metal wheels keep your track much cleaner than plastic!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:26 PM
I've already filled the inside of the spines with thick solder, but they are still drastically too light. Besides being too light (and top-heavy because of the weighted trailers), a few of the trucks make the whole truck wobble on curves. Whether this is due in part to the light weight, I don't know. Metal wheels are definitely going to happen someday - how soon I take the plunge depends on whether the truck tuning improves the wobbling.
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Posted by ns3010 on Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:33 PM

What about trying to add weight inside the containers/trailers (if possible)? Don't know if it would work, but I'd say it's worth a shot...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:30 PM

The trailers are weighted. I took out the nails the previous owner added because they shifted on curves and tipped the whole trailer off the car and added old freightcar weights. the only problem is that it makes the cars top-heavy and therefore more prone to string-lining on tight curves, especially the one at the summit of the Mascoma Lake Grade. While the trailers strewn across the hillside look pretty cool, it isn't not much fun for operators.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:47 PM

I would try filling the car with pure lead, and not solder. The most common electronics solder only contains 40% lead, i.e. not very heavy. You can get malleable lead chucks from Walthers, or you can find leadshot from A-Line. Although not as easy to find (but much cheaper) you can get lead shot in various sizes at a dive shop or a bait and tackle shop. I suppose if you have an arms shop around, and you have a registered firearm, you could get yourself leadshot there too.

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Posted by IVRW on Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:31 PM
I got something for you, why not make 2 types of containers for the spine cars. Type one would have a small "B" or "L" next to the reporting marks or whatever. This would stand for bottom or lower, and the trailers would be very heavy, maybe filled to the brim with lead. Type two would be labeled "U" or "T" and hence would ride on top, and be very light weight. Just an idea.

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Posted by IVRW on Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:38 PM
Seconds after I posted, youtube finished uploading. Tell me what you think. This is something I just did yesterday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU9qNzhSl6s

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Posted by ns3010 on Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:39 PM

John, that wouldn't work since they're not double stack well cars.

They're piggyback trailers, and that's the problem. If the trailers are weighted, it makes them topheavy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbmDMXzg3uA

(Excuse me for posting Tyler's video, only for purposes of explanation...)

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Posted by IVRW on Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:50 PM
I see what your saying. I even saw the nails used. In that case, try hidden weights under the cars in between the suspension.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:50 PM
I have A-Line weights, I'll bring them Saturday.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2010 6:53 AM

Yeah, it wasn't electronics solder, but it sure wasn't pure lead. I think it was 50-50. If I had doublestacks and they were too light, I would certainly weight the lower container heavily since it sits between the trucks and has a lot center of gravity. But with TOFC on top of very small trucks... Since I don't think pure lead will give it all that much more weight, I don't know if I can get the solder out without damaging the car, and the screws on the bottom are pretty stripped already, I'm just going to go for metal wheels and see if that helps. @John, I'd be very surprised if you could see the nails because they're 2 inches long and inside the trailer body! Smile,Wink, & Grin

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John, the video is great! What program did you use to edit it? The transitions are really great. Since you asked for feedback, here's a few things I'd change for the final version - take them or leave them. I'm very critical of my own work and know how to look for errors I've made, so keep in mind that these are very minor things from my detail-oriented eye.

- First, I'd mention that your approach to deciding what railroad to model is only one way of doing it. Say something about how this ISN'T what to do for prototype or proto-lance railroads. That said, I do think that most teen modelers will be freelancing, and if not they'll already know what they want and won't need to plan their railroad this way. Your way is very logical and much more realistic than some railroads I've seen!

- Also I'd fix the capitalization and punctuation in the end credits - there were some words in the middle of sentences that were capitalized for no reason and several sentences were missing punctuation at the end.

- One last thing -- the video was fine, but the tinny mono-channel audio (which I assume was recorded with a point-and-shoot camera) was a bit lacking. Do you have any means to record the audio with a real microphone or actual video camera? Might help with the sound.

Apart from those minor bits, it looked really professional and I'm looking forward to the next editions! Great job!

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Posted by RailfanS on Monday, March 22, 2010 9:07 AM

Hi guys,

Ty: I would go with metal wheels and A line weights to improve tracking.

John: Great video, can't weight wait to see the next edition.

So here's what I did on Saturday. A friend and I went to the Watertown MRRC and got to run trains on thier layout. My big mainline loco's got to run on a mainlineShock. When we arrived there where only 3 club members there. 2 of them decided to go to an early lunch and left the layout to my friend, me, and 1 another club member for about 2 hours. Between my friend and I we ran 7-8 different trains.

Anyway, I took some pic's and video's and are finally getting the time to upload them (I have today off from school). On my YouTube any video that starts with "WTRMMC 3/20/10" was taken on Saturday. I'll put a few pictures and a link to a few videos on this thread. I'll put more of the pictures on next weekend's WPF. Here's the first video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOOtR2Ph9AY

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Posted by IVRW on Monday, March 22, 2010 9:40 AM
Thanks everybody, Tyler especially. I have decided that episode 2 will be planning your MRR part 2.

Here are all the episodes I will have so far.

Episode 2, planning your Railroad part 2, trackplanning, prototypes, and era Episode 3, benchwork and tools. Episode 4, landforming. Episode 5, roadbed and subroadbed. Episode 6, structures. Episode 7, scenery part 1. Episode 8, scenery part 2. Episode 9, making a scene. Episode 10, final details. Episode 11, operation.

Bonus episode 12, the making of HTBYFMRR (How To Build Your First Model RailRoad), how to make your own videos of your MRR, and bloopers.

This is all based off of you, and other comments I have had. Tell me what you think. Today, I will go down, and start working on episode 2 (technically, I have also filmed episode 3, which was episode 2, but anyway).

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2010 12:25 PM

I'm looking forward to your upcoming episodes, John! Here's a video I made over a year ago that might help you with Issue 12 (how to make your own videos of your model railroad) or if you want, I could film a new tutorial and appear as a guest in your program.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLx7K7Hyu2o

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Monday, March 22, 2010 8:21 PM

Started work on another project for a friend.

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/931-335 

So far I've removed all the Amtrak lettering and numbering and began replacing the Phase 4 Stripe Decal. I need to finish adding the Ph IV striping then I'll start adding the Downeaster lettering, logo, and numbering. Once that's done I'll seal the decals, mask the model, and paint the roof, frame, pilot, trucks, and add all the details.

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:09 PM

Excellent John! I agree with Tyler, it was a little difficult to hear at times, but it was still great!

Jamie, that looks like a neat club. I wish there was a club near me...

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Posted by IVRW on Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:30 PM
Disaster. I took my locomotives to the hobby shop, and there is something wrong with 1 locomotive, and something else wrong with the DCC system. The guy says that he can not figure out what is wrong with the locomotive. Athearn Trains says I should fiddle with CVs and tell them what happens. The hobby shop guy also says that the DCC system will not pick up any new locomotive signals unless I do more with CVs. That means that my new DC shay will not run. Not to mention I am sick. What a way to spend spring break. Ill keep you guys posted.

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Posted by ns3010 on Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:51 PM

Good luck finding out what's wrong

I've been sick for the past two days as well.
I can't wait for break. I have tomorrow, Monday, and Tuesday (we get out at 11:30), and then I'm off till the 12th.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:57 PM

I held the March ops session today. It went pretty well even though my layout is still a failure. Murphy visited two minutes before the session was due to start by breaking the lift bridge power switch beyond repair.
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Posted by RailfanS on Saturday, March 27, 2010 5:25 PM

Hi guys, let's start from the top,

Alex: Cool project, are you converting it to a cabbage car (like the one in the photo, a Cab/Baggage car) or just repainting the F40PH into the Downeaster scheme? 

Joe: It is a neat club, I like itBig Smile. There's a few more pic's over on WPF. Hows the layout coming?

John: Sorry to hear about your DCC problem. Hope you get it fixed soon.

Alex: Murphy likes trains dosn't he. He visited the club with me last weekend. He caused my the leading truck on my GS-4 to clip a frog (on a turnout) and send the loco sliding on it's side into another train. No damage luckilyThumbs Up. He also caused my first attempt to run a loco on DCC to end with a me chasing after my runaway F45 (a club member cut the track power and we decided to run it on DC). Anyway, good luck with fixing the lift bridge, and getting the booster you need. One quick question: what type of booster do you need for a Zephyr?

As for me, not much new here. I'm considering picking up a cheap airbrush from Harbor Freight so I can try it. I already have a compressor. I also am looking into patching my loco's again. I'm considering using white decal paper to make my patches (white lettering on blue). See how it goes.

see you later,

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Posted by ns3010 on Saturday, March 27, 2010 5:43 PM

So, I'm SUPPOSED to be making a Powerpoint for Theology due Monday, but I'm kinda procrastinating... Whistling

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Tyler, sounds like, aside from a few mishaps, it went pretty well! I LOVE those standard cab GEs, especially in the P&W scheme...

Jamie, this is where my layout is at the current moment:

Depending on our practice schedule, I'll get the benchwork fixed (I was gonna do that a month and a half ago, when I built it, but, of course, that never happened...) and the plywood put on top. I have absolutely no money right now (and I'm not exaggerating even a little bit...), so that's about all I can do for now. I have all that track I bought from Tyler a while back, but I don't have cork, so I can't even lay parts of the passing siding and industries.
We'll see what happens.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Saturday, March 27, 2010 6:37 PM

It will be a NPCU, I just need to make a few cuts and pick up some styrene to represent the doors.

Picked up an SW9 from a friend's house tonight, so now I need to decide what to paint it into.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:02 PM

RailfanS
Alex: Murphy likes trains dosn't he. He visited the club with me last weekend. He caused my the leading truck on my GS-4 to clip a frog (on a turnout) and send the loco sliding on it's side into another train. No damage luckilyThumbs Up. He also caused my first attempt to run a loco on DCC to end with a me chasing after my runaway F45 (a club member cut the track power and we decided to run it on DC). Anyway, good luck with fixing the lift bridge, and getting the booster you need. One quick question: what type of booster do you need for a Zephyr?

 

Alex was there, but I'm Tyler... Smile,Wink, & Grin

I'm posting a question on the DCC forum here right now about what booster to get. The cheapest option may actually be to get another Zephyr and set it as a booster - bonus is that it can also act as an auto-reverser for my reversing track!

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Posted by Packers#1 on Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:19 PM

 Tyler, sounds like a great operating session working out some more bugs.

I did a little work on the layout today. fixed the arching-over forest at the end of the yard so it wouldn't clog the track and also planted some more weeds. that project, building and installing my wood kits, and fixing the scrap yard track and installing the scrap pile, I really have no more projects that I can do w/o spending more money. fortunately I should be getting some extra cash for (edited here) reffing some rec league soccer games this spring.

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Posted by RailfanS on Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:33 AM

TrainManTy

Alex was there, but I'm Tyler... Smile,Wink, & Grin

Sign - Oops

Sorry Tyler. I guess spell check dosn't find all my mistakesSmile.

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