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Teen Model Railroad Place February 2010

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:07 PM

The Pennsy had a lot of different types of locomotives...if you post some photos of it we can narrow it down a bit!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 15, 2010 10:33 AM

(hate to double-post, but...)

Night ops in West Canaan.


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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:46 AM

Yeah, cdog, we kinda need a little elaboration before we can help you there...

Wow, Tyler, I really like that shot! Are those ditch lights, or did you Photoshop those?

I FINALLY started on benchwork!!!!!!!!!!!! Got the main frame built yesterday, and gonna work on legs today. I don't have plywood, foam, roadbed, track, or money to buy the above items, but it's a start...

I'll have photos later

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:52 PM

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Wow, Tyler, I really like that shot! Are those ditch lights, or did you Photoshop those?

 

Thanks! The original shot was a shot of Alex running night ops (I added the background hills instead of Alex's silhouette against a lighted basement wall) and the engine was going backwards - I didn't take the photo just for this purpose. So both the ditch lights and the headlights were added in Photoshop.

BUT - I've already paid Alex and bought the decoder to put flashing ditch lights in both ends of that loco! Smile

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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:41 PM

Hmm, it looks like it's running short hood forward, but then again, what do I know?! Big Smile

Well, the benchwork is gonna need some fixing, but that shouldn't be a problem.

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Posted by BigBlueConrail on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:28 PM
Nice stuff this month guys!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:28 AM

ns3010
Hmm, it looks like it's running short hood forward, but then again, what do I know?! Big Smile

 

It is, but Alex was running it in reverse with the rear lights (facing away from the camera) on, shoving cars into Delery Pulpwood & Lumber when I took the photo - if I had taken the photo for the sole purpose of making this shot (like most of my images) then I would have it in forward with the headlights on so I wouldn't have to Photoshop the headlights in.

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:47 PM

Oh, ok. I didn't realize that when you said backwards, you meant away from the camera, as well as long hood forward... I get it now... Dunce

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Posted by RailfanS on Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:33 PM

Good Afternoon,

Well as I said before, I've been on winter break this week. So I figured I could share a picture of what I've been up to:

If you look closely, just below the spool of red wire you'll see a black line. That's the old track centerline for the spur closest to the wall. Also all of the sectional track in that area has been replaced with flextrack. If you look in the foreground you'll also notice ballast up to the grade crossing.

That's all for now, I'll have more pictures soon. Probably on the WPF tread that's coming up.

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Posted by ns3010 on Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:09 PM

Very nice! The ballast and the parking lot look excellent!

Although I think your HO scale pushpins are a little too big... Wink

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 19, 2010 4:23 PM

I recently starting building a burned-out barn from Horst Meier's article in Model Railroader. Here's the materials.

A couple hours later, the wall frames and roof ends have been started. I bought way too little of the heavy square stripwood so my roof is going to be built of the skinny stuff. My barn is going to much more destroyed than the one in the article.

I also *finally* put sides on the Shaker Hill Road bridge in Enfield! They just need paint and weathering.

It could be a few weeks till these projects are done (IF they ever get done! Whistling) but I'll be sure to post photos then!
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Posted by IVRW on Friday, February 19, 2010 11:53 PM
Its been a very long time since I've posted. On Fri. my family took a trip to AZ, and got back this Thur. I haven't done much on the Railroad lately, the biggest movement is continuing to ballast everything. Thur. night, I went to a Model Railroad club meeting. While I was in AZ, I got 4 or 5 bags of different colored dirt to sift for the more exotic scenes. Probably the biggest thing has been my contact with the UP Utah Head of Operations. In April, my Boy Scout Troop will now take a tour of the Huge UP Roper Yard in Salt Lake to earn the Railroad Merit Badge. I personally am in charge of coordinating the Merit Badge (I wonder why :) ), and when I mentioned that "Because I am a Model Railroader, I have the knowledge to want to share the awe of Railroads with my Fellow Scouts." I was returned with "thank you for your affinity with our industry." WOW! At the Club meeting, a friend and UP employee volunteered to be a tour guide.

A fun thing for you all, that UP employee asked me to name the 5 'people' on a modern train and the 6 on a steam era train. Its really fun. Give it a try.

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Posted by ns3010 on Saturday, February 20, 2010 4:09 PM

Tyler, the barn is off to a great start!

John, that's pretty neat!

As for the 5 people, the only ones I can think of are engineer, conductor, brakeman, flagman and ???
As for steam, the same as above and fireman?

I thought most crews were only 2, maybe, 3 people...?

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Posted by IVRW on Saturday, February 20, 2010 6:29 PM
Joe, thats what I thought too, but its different.

On a modern train, you got the Engineer, Conductor (fireman, copilot), John (engineer during night, to let others sleep, also functions as a switchman when conductor is preoccupied), Fred (Flashing Rear End Device), and Mary Jane (computer correspondent for FRED). Technically, in this case, you are right. However, in modern RR terms, the last two, even though they are both computers, are still part of the crew.

In the steam age, however, things are much different. The crew consists of the Engineer, Fireman (copilot), Conductor (paperworker), Switchman (on the ground, switching switches), Forward brakeman, and Rear brakeman. The last two are running up and down the train turning the wheels in a random manner to slow the train. I just thought you all might enjoy this random bit of information.

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Posted by ns3010 on Saturday, February 20, 2010 9:05 PM

Most don't even have a "John..." So there's really only 2 human crew members.

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Posted by IVRW on Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:15 PM
Okay, so two humans for regular, 3 its overnight.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:25 PM

Most switch jobs that I've seen have a brakeman to assist the conductor, so that's three!

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Posted by IVRW on Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:34 PM
So then there are three, the third being changeable depending upon what the train is doing.

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Posted by ns3010 on Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:44 PM

Ok, I guess so. H02 doesn't have one, even though they do nothing but switching...

Anyone know what the 3 (minimum) people on a passenger train are? And then there's those additional people.

 

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Posted by IVRW on Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:04 PM
Well, assuming engineer and fireman are included, I would say engineer, fireman, and conductor. If engineer and fireman are not included, I might say Conductor (movement coordinator), Ticket clipper (man who interacts with passengers), and baggage attendant (in the baggage car).

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Posted by WCfan on Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:59 PM

Most modern train crews only have two human crew men. There are exceptions like Switch Jobs, and Passenger trains. But most, if not all road train crews only have two people. There really isn't a need for a "John". FRA regulations state that a train crew can only have a maximum of 12 hours on the road. After that, they die on hours and need a crew change. So really, it would be useless to have an extra person to sit in the cab, even at night when people might get sleepy. Most of the time crews will know their call time in advance. Unless they are on the extra board, or not high in seniority. Here is a good example of a three person crew though.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Sunday, February 21, 2010 6:30 PM

 I've bene lurking for the past week or so, but jsut thought I'd post a minor update.

I'm gearing up for another big work day. figured out how to fix the furniture factory roof, and I'll work more on the forest in the yard. I have also figured out the 5 kits I need for the downtown area, and after I get those it's onto scratchbuilding the industry buildings. I've decided to build the roads from the same signs I used for the roof of King Furniture. lot cheaper than Perfectcast and not too bad looking hopefully. Worst comes to worst they get torn up and relaid with Perfectcast.

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Posted by ns3010 on Sunday, February 21, 2010 6:33 PM

Passenger can be different, depending on era and long or short distance.

Steam always had engineer, fireman, and conductor.

Long distance have baggage people.

Modern short distance trains (like, for example, this is a typical crew on NJT) have an engineer, conductor, and rear brake (he contols the doors and collects tickets). TCs (ticket collectors) are added as necessary.

So, no matter what, there's gonna be at least three people.

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Posted by IVRW on Sunday, February 21, 2010 9:38 PM
So, like I said, 3 real people, and then FRED (or EOTD) on the back of the train (checking for proper air hose connections) and Mary Jane (translator of FRED and checker of other systems). This is a rather interesting discussion. Joe, I didn't know that about passenger trains. Sawyer, seems like progress is good, keep us posted! WCfan, thats a very good picture, do you have more? :P

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Monday, February 22, 2010 11:27 AM

I've been in Italy so I haven't been keeping tabs on the conversation. Yard Crews can often get work accomplished more quickly with the addition of another man on the ground. This can often coincide with OJT for new conductors.

There are rules on commuter systems regarding crew size. In rush hour 2 assistant conductors are required in addition to the conductor and engineer, while off peak trains only have 1 assistant. 

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Posted by WCfan on Monday, February 22, 2010 5:20 PM

IVRW
WCfan, thats a very good picture, do you have more? :P

Thanks! My two Photobucket accounts are private, and that is the only place where I have all my pictures. But my Flickr account has a good amount of my "good" pictures. It only goes back about a year, but it's better than nothing.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 22, 2010 6:16 PM

Guilford Guy
I've been in Italy so I haven't been keeping tabs on the conversation.

 

I was right! That's what I guessed when I noticed you hadn't been around for a few weeks.

I was about to write the same thing: Engineer, Conductor, Assistant Conductor... I commute regularly so I might have an unfair disadvantage in that question.

As to Jordan's 3 person crew (in a nice photo too!), there's the guy in the cab (Engineer), the guy on the front walkway (Door Stop), and the guy on the steps (Autographer). There's no train to pull, so all they do is drive around and look pretty. The engineer watches for cars to swerve into at crossings and blows the horn, the guy on the front stands in front of the nose door so it stays shut and keeps the rain out, and the guy on the steps hands out autographs just for the heck of it.

I think I've been reading Joe's question thingy for too long. Laugh

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Posted by ns3010 on Monday, February 22, 2010 10:54 PM

TrainManTy
I think I've been reading Joe's question thingy for too long. Laugh

What, my Formspring? It's definately, uh, interesting... Some of those questions were wierd...
And I'm still trying to figure out who asked me to describe NJT's system map in 300 words... And who asked why round pizza comes in a square box and why McDonalds doesn't sell hotdogs...?

But it's down right now, so I can't check for questions.

Had our last game of the season tonight. We lost 4-1, but it was still a pretty good season, although we only won one game...
I thought overall, I did very well, and I've made it far from someone who never played hockey before to someone who is halfway decent over the past two years.

 

On the topic of model railroading, I have no clue when my genset is coming. Atlas originally said January, and then they pushed it back to February, and they still have no date on their website. *Sigh*

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Posted by IVRW on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:17 AM
Everybody's back now, WCfan, thanks, Ill check it out. Tyler, actually, the one at the door is the paper supplier to the autographer, lol. Joe, I got two questions for ya 1) of the 425 miles the Utah Railway runs on between Provo Utah and Grand Junction Colorado, how many miles does it own, and 2) How is the progress of the Layout coming?

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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:55 PM

John,

1. I have no idea. So I'll take a guess and say 300...?

2. It's stopped for now. The benchwork needs some fixing before I can do anything else, and I don't have materials (or money) to continue. I'm not sure how long it'll be before I can resume, but hopefully it'll be pretty soon.

Also, I was talking about my Formspring for questions. The link is above, but it's also in my sig (the last link). Just click on it and it goes right to the page where you ask the questions. I usually check my inbox relatively often (at least once a day, usually two or three times, depending on how busy I am).

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