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Truss Bridge question
Posted by spfan01 on Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:40 PM

I want to add a Pratt Truss bridge to my HO layout under construction. Problem is, the place I've chosen has a slight grade (less than 1%). I know, I should have considered this in the original design, but didn't. Were these bridges ever built on a grade? I've seen some pictures where there seems to be a grade, but I can't be certain. Thanks in advance for the info.

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Posted by selector on Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:05 PM

Hello, and welcome.  Yes, one could say that most bridges are erected as part of a grade.  That could be something very close to no grade at all up to the maximum permitted by design and policy for the railroad.  I have walked across bridges that seemed to be level and on others where the approach on one end was clearly on a grade, which the bridge deck matched.

-Crandell

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:38 PM

Sign - Welcome  Welcome aboard!

For a grade of less than 1%, the engineering staff would probably go with a catalog bridge from the steel fabricator, specifying a slightly higher capacity than they would for a bridge on dead level track.  Since railroad bridges were usually grossly overbuilt anyway...

OTOH, on a steeper grade, the bridge would be modified to keep the normally vertical members vertical, and the bridge panels would become rhomboid rather than rectangular.

Looking at a poster illustrating a bridge on a curve, it appears that the fixed shoes are on the low end and the flexible shoes are on the high end.  It's a multi-span, so both variants are right next to each other on top of a masonry pier.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - including lots of bridges on grades)

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Posted by Margaritaman on Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:43 PM

Mine is on a 1+% grade.  Not that I would have changed anything if it was 2.5% because I'm just not that much of a rivet counter.  Anywho, it looks fine and no one has ever said "hey, you're bridge is leaning!"

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Posted by selector on Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:58 PM

A very nice example, too!

I have two bridges, both on grades.  This trestle is near 2%.

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Posted by markpierce on Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:33 PM

Selector, I trust your trestle bents are completely vertical.

Mark

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Posted by twhite on Sunday, July 12, 2009 9:29 PM

spfan01

Almost every bridge I have (13 at last count) is on a grade, between 1 and 2% either ascending or descending.   If your using a Pratt, a grade won't disturb it.  If you're thinking of a trestle or a steel viaduct, just make sure that your bents are vertical.   Other than that, go for it. 

Here's my Deer Creek Viaduct on a 2%: 

The Bullards Bar bridge on a 2% descending:

Malakoff Diggings bridge on a 1% ascending:

 

Tom Smile

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Posted by selector on Monday, July 13, 2009 12:03 AM

markpierce

Selector, I trust your trestle bents are completely vertical.

Mark

As near as my eyeball could make 'em so, Mark.  I would have used a scale plumb bob, but I thought it was a bit much. Big Smile

-Crandell

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